that is sooooo true and i am so glad not many think like you....oh.....even though i can see your logic. yea, the bare necessitites. food, and water. homeless people survive without even a solid roof over their head. heck, even the africans i was talking about in the other thread who lived in mud houses connected by black and darkened corridors live better than your perspective of what is actually needed. you see, while other people have a realistic perspective, you have an unrealistic perspective. it's funny though. in the travel thread, you talked about how you would have liked to go to europe but your parents couldn't afford it. in this thread, you talk about how it would be wrong to accept any luxuries that would affect another person or nation negatively. that's ironic that you would say those two things and it's also a little hypocritical because ofcourse, you would state your racist viewpoints whever you travel and that would obviously impact other people negatively. not only do you give blacks a bad name, you would give americans a bad name if you were to ever travel to europe. but you have your comback that you used for the other guy to save you from any arguement. "we all have different perspectives". so as long as the majority believes in something, and you believe in something else, you would give yourself either the same credit or more credit for your own unrealistic opinions. a pro ball player had the luxury of buying himself a ball when he was a kid. a priest had the luxury of attending a private school so he can learn more about religion. warren buffet had the luxury of saving the little money he had and turning it in to billions....later to becoming someone who would give his money away. you know, i like to preach about something sometimes that other people aren't aware of. we are all born different and in a different way. what is in one person's nature, is not in another person's nature. when we don't do what is in our individual nature, we become unfullfilled and unmotivated. life doesn't see like it's worth living. we aren't born equal. we are born unique and DIFFERENT so to have ONE perspective that has to relate to every different and unique individual is a pointless arguement. so when i hear you say that the necessities are only only food, water and shelter and not even giving a second thought in to what is in someone's nature, i have to again say that your views are rubbish. and while we are at it, can you more clearly define shelter and food? i mean, what kind of food? bread and water? or something to satisfy the basic food groups we learn in school? what about meat? i guess meat isn't a necessity since we can survive without it. do you eat meat? you know meat is one of the most expensive foods you can buy. are you willing to give that up for a cows life or are you not up for discussing animal rights and what is necessary for them without the thought of being plumped up and slughtered. and what is shelter to you? a house? an apartment? a cardboard box? please be more clear in your unrealistic perspectives so i can REALLY get a better sense of what you so strongly believe in. i will be breaking this statement down in another post because all you stated for the basic needs is food, water, and shelter. not only that, you didn't include ANYTHING that even related to giving back the the general good or greater good. i am going to have fun with that statement. your viewpoints seem to change whenever you are in another topic.