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i once had the same problem and used a software called avast its a free download if you get the home version from the avast dot com website. Anyway I hpe you have managed to get rid of it by now cause damn the little buggers are irritating. You can also use the AVG but that was a recommeneded solution by a friend. Avast worked just fine for me.

you dont.moving on to a new relationship while still stuck on the opast is never a good idea cause you start to campare and the truth is the past will win especially because you dont see any wrong in the past. You choose to conveniently forget the mistakes that the past did simplay a case of better the devil you know if you know what I mean.if i was in your shoes I'd concentrate on getting back on my two feet and not being dependent on the ex seeing as you literally spent every moment together there is a dependedncy to share lifes moments with the past meaning if you moved on it would only be expected that she become the replacement which means she has to fill in the gap that was the ex. This means you will see her as the clone of the ex and expect the exs actions from her so say the ex liked football or fooling about in the park you'd expect the new one to do just that and to me thats just not fair on the new partner because you not loving them or iving them a chance to be them you expecting them to becaome the ex and losse their own traits and character to fulfill your broken heart. I say take time to heal and make sure you get back completely to your feet and then you can open your heart to someone new. Not to fill the void left by the ex but so they too can share special moments in your life which will become your own.

wow come to think of it this is spam for sure. They claim to live in U.K but write like a person from a non english speaking country the grammar is all wrong. Not taking a dig at peopel that are trying but then this person is not trying english they trying to com us. it was with me for two years. hehehhe wahat was with you you for two years. What Irealised is that this person is actually from AFRICA and they did what is called direct translation from a venecular african language. I can speak a few african languages and I just directly translated into one of the languages and the story makes sense that way lol. Some people really go to all lengths just to try and convince people to part with their hard earned cash.

yeah yeah yeah.Where in africa did you find this man. You say he has an email address yet he is a spell caster that doesnt tally because in african tradition the spell caster and spirit medium and witch doctors all have one thing in common they do not live in mordern houses. Thjeir custom is to build a shackl in the woods and live there as one with nature. So how can you have intenet in the middle of the bushes. Before you say there is wifi please bear in mind that WIFI is still a new thing in the west or 1st world countries and how would third world countries have that before 1st world. Also how does he or she power their computer in the woods. Generator perhaps hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmAnyway about this woman. I doubt any spell you supposedly put on her worked but then she came back and we all know you must have loved her with all your heart and forgiven her for you to be with her today. You say you have kids with her already so I take it this whole spell casting happened about 3 years back just when UK was starting to have mobile phone internet and dongles and from your Spell catser story there was already dongles and wifi in africa 3 years back hmmmmmmmm suspicious there buddy. What country was that then??I knwo she left you two weeks befoe the wedding and all and she came back and you all are happy together i think the only reason she came back was because she realised she did love you. Leaving you could have been for any reason she was not sure about marrying you cause marriage is a big commitment and maybe she got cold feet. But she sorted this and came back. I understand how people may say that was dumb taking her back but they are not in your shoes and you are the only one who knows how hard it was no having her in your life. So it was easier to take her back with her mistakes because you are happier with her than without her. But now my question then becaomes your conscience. How do you feel when you wonder what will happen when the spell runs out? I mean wont you one day wake up to find her packing her bags and leaving cause the spell has run out. Unless of course she truly is in love then you wont think bout that but then you accept that she doenst love you she is just under a spell like the princess in SHREK she is not really what she is. She is what the spell is making her into. So basically you are a witch yourself. Based on that you put a spell on her so she thinks shes in love with you. I am sorry if that sounds offensive but that just the way I see things based on your admission. I say set her fre of the spell and let this woman love you of her own accord because right now you are just holding her captive and she is there but has no clue why. She probably loathes you but cant understand why she cant bring herself to leave. would you like it if a gay guy put a spell on you so you would find yourself loving him and not being able to leave. And every evening he does gay sex to you and you hate it but you just do not know why you cant tell him to stop and why you cant walk away. Thats probably how your mrs feels buddy. She doesnt wanna be there shes under a spell. If she had the chance to say I dont want to be with you but im stying for the children its better cause you know shes there on her own accord yes it maybe under an excuse but the excuse was hers to make. But right now what reason has she to stay exept that a Witch pout a spell on her and he is now calling it a marriage yet you are basically having sex with someone on an african version of rhohypnol (date rape drug) or whatever spelling it is. You are no different from those rapists who go putting things in girls drinks and shagging them while they are unconcious of whats going on. Those drugs get the girls so high they have sex and all that but have no clue they doing it. Thats what you are doing to you missus only difference is you drug is more permanent than the spiked drinkshame on you

Its been nearly 5 years now. And back then your situation probably seemed daunting and evil if I can say. Im hoping by now you have managed to move on and start a new relationship or have you given up on men and turned to the more trusted race the females. it seems the fad nowadys to turn and become homosexual or bi sexual whatever you wanna call it. Any I hope your situation has improved since and you are now over him. If you are still on the forums please can you update us on what has happened since.It would be nice to see whether its easy to move on or does time heal or does the dmage last forever. It would make it easier to go through stuff like this if we know how the predecessors fared in a similar situation. The easiest thing in life is to simulate and assume based on logic. FOr example for someone who has never had a heart break to say just move on find a club or join a society club to keep ypur mind busy and occupied yet there are people who have been in those exact shoes and found it isnt enough to just keep your mind off things. SO please when you get a chance relate to us your healing or moving on process so that when we hit the same ditch we can be in a more informed or much better prepared to handle the situation like this.it would also be very nice to hear what eventually happened to his seriouys relationship. If you have no info on him please dont go looking for it lest it only opens up old wounds.I wish you all the best

its been a while since you posted this issue but i just saw it and wondered if you were still getting over this girl. I know exactly what you are going through because I have also been in love before and sufered a not so obvious break up. ANyone who has been in a not so obvious break will know that this is a worser thing to go thru than a full break up. Just to clarify what I mean is A full Break up (for lack of a better word) is when someone says look Kid its over beween us. I dont want you. I am done here. Theres no second chances no going back i have moved on and I probably am now seeing someone new. This break up will hurt like f**k but grieving is a process. You go through denial and then get love sick and then you accept it and move on. You will eventually move on after a bit because you will soon realise theres no going back its finished. This is not a good feeling thouogh but its got a begining and an ending if i may say. Its a imple closed door and you used to have the key but now the lock has changed. You will try using your key just in disbelief but sooner rather than later the realisation will dawn on you that you have no more acess to that door and you will then start trying to find another life door. In this scenario your heart may still be inlove but the brain will slowly convince the heart to let go and move on and this is a slow process but its in one direction normally. The Heart is following the head reluctantly but its following.Then You have the not so obvious break upalso named that for lack of a better or correct term. This break up is the one our forumer is experiencing. Where she says I still love you I wanna be with you and yet behaves in quite the opposite fashion. This causes confusion to the person on the receiving end because they recieve mixed signals and that is what complicates everything. I mean for someone like me or you reading this its a simple cause of why dont you forget it and just move on. Yet when you are stuck in those shoes this can be one of the hardest and harshest things you may ever experience. In the Full break up I used the phrase "In this scenario your heart may still be inlove but the brain will slowly convince the heart to let go and move on and this is a slow process but its in one direction normally. The Heart is following the head reluctantly but its following." and this is where the two differ. In the first scenario the heart is reluctantly submissive so its saying ok I will learn to move on even though I did not want to. But with the Sort Of Break Up there is a complete conflict between heart and soul( the head or brain. Because of the Statements I still love you and I am yours or whatever phrases she uses you heart is fully re convinced that it ok to love her and hold on to her because everything is going to be alright so the heart says Theres hope and here is proof and refers to the statements she just jais. But then your head says look, you saw the emails and all this and that is proof enough its over. She dont spend time with you. She makes excuses and the head pretty much produces its own set of convincers to prove its point but the heart also has its evidence and that is what makes this whole thing harder.Your body cant agree and as a result this stresses you out big time. Things Like Insomnia set in and depression and all that its so hard because one minute you are saying its over. you make all the necessary acceptance in your life that its finished and you start to make your own plans that dont include her then you say to yourself this is it Im done but when you see her your heart says I have just got to hear it from the horses' mouth and before you even know it you have asked her whats really happening. She gives you an explanantion and usually the explanations do make a good point so suddenly you find that theres hope again and you cancell all the thoughts you had and write them off as choices made with out the right information and you are back in love. This is like living a yo-yo life you have no direction in that feild its like you just being thrown around. To use the Door and key method its like when you have a dodgy key cut for you for example you take a key to the locksmith to get a copy and they make one for you but its those dodgy keys that work but sometimes do not work One moment you try it it works the next moment it wont work. So you spending lots of time trying the key to that door hoping today is the day it wil work and when it doesnt work you try to con the door into opening by trying to apply different pressure while turning the key and wierdly enought that trick that worked the other dya doesnt work anymore. Your thinking pull out the key and re insert it slowly just dont push it all in a millimeter short of it all going in and then slowly turn it. You spending ages by that door instead of haveing just gone round to the back door and just going in a different door and you probably would have been inside the house by now. The only problem with life is that usually theres one door per person you wont find the back door to their heart.So the situation you are finding yourself in is one of incomplete decision and this is very painfull cause it can last for years and years and what is worse is the fact that you feelings will always be raw. You will never accept that its over as long as she keeps saying that you. This is mainly because you heart had told itself this is my partner for life. You dont wanna let her go because she is probabl;y the perfect partner for your heart and its goingto be hard to let go. Its easy for a lot of people to say let go you will find someone else but they dont understand how it feels. I know people that have been in love before and have moved on and are now in happy relationships but i believe in life you only have one true soulmate and if it doesnt work with then because maybe they were not you soulmate you will rarely find someone that will shake their spot in terms of your heart.Many people may go on to find happiness and marriage elsewhere but they will always know that their true love is the one that was in the past. Its obviously stupid to leave the new person in search for a past but then the truth will always be in your heart. I say to you my friend its hard wht you are experiencing if you havent gotten over it yet but the only advice I can give is that you get in touch with her and tell her how you feel. Tell her the damage its doign to you and how you feeling. Just ask her tolisten. DO NOT however start making her feel its her fault cause that will only lead to an argument and more pain. But just tell her so she understands theamount of stress and pain shes making you go through. This is so that she will undertsand your next request. Ask her if you can just be freinds who call each other and talk about stuff but the stuff should not be about her new boyfriend or your feelings. You want to teach your brain that she only a frend and stick to that. Its easier for you heart to accept that shes going to be just a freind and theres that communication channel left open incase you wanna take things further. But NEVER TAKE THINGS FURTHER else you going to be back where you started. Dont make long calls to each other you'll only start feeling closer you just want short hi how was your day bye kind of calls just so your heart doesnt pulsate. Then with time only limit the calls to when necessary and slowly over a year you will find you dont call her so much and you do not depend on her that much. FOr many years after you will still find there are things or seing movies or television programs that have a resemblance of what you did with her may make you heart start racing and cause anxiety but that is normal in your case. Just know that one day in the far future everythiong may be alright and you may be able to look back and say wow that was a hard timein my life right there but i guess Im a survivor. I made it.I dont know if I can advise moving on for now because I know you will only compare everyone to her and it will destroy you becuse you only going to start hurting the ones who will want something serious with you only to realise that you are still hung up over the ex. Thjere is no one plus one remedy for your case just great support and trying whatever seems to work for you. My advice may not work for you but at least you having the option and knowing that you can try this way helps.I wish you all the best. Please give us an update of whats happened since.

yes she likes you. Actually from the things you have written it is obvious she loves you too. Yes Just the same way she loves dogs and the same way she probably loves Cats. In simpler terms you are geting you hopes high over someoen who probably only likes you as much as a rain drop likes the sky - because she has no choice.Ask yourself if you were her would you like you. Stop worrying about weather she likes you or not cause that will only make you feel awkward when you are hanging out. Just concentrate on having a nice time when you two are hanging out. Just enjoy life and the friendship oyu share. Cause its not easy finding a good friend. If it becomes a relationship then thats cool but dont let your relationship be make awkward and wierd just because you misinterpreted what she feeling because she brush your hand on the table while you were on a date oryou caught her staring at you in a dreamy looking manner. Just take things easy dont ever read situations.

well it depends on what kind of liking you are on about. If its liking as in you fancy her then you need to be cool but smooth. Make sure you make her see that you like her but without her getting to used to being friends with you otherwise you risk becoming the good boy- friend whom is basically like a gay friend. You want to make her think you are sweet but stil a guy who wants to touch her in those private places and do things in bed with her. This may not be what you want but im trying to say she needs to see that you are a good guy whom she can trust and be close with but also realise that you have sexual feelings for her. That way she realises that the only way to carry on getting her dose of you would be to have a relationship with you. One mistake is to never let the girl start to think of you as a little brother i never had. thats bad because little brother dont get to snog the girl or feel her breasts and caress her and all that. You know what i mean yeah.

well it depends who buys your phone credit. If you are friends or are a wierdo. Is it like You text then you reset the clock with the aim of not texting before the 4 day limit. I mean i think that texting a girl is like a phone call. If you call each other every friday and chat thats cool but when you say every four days it makes me ask what happens every forth day have you a count down time is that when her husband leaves for the four days supplies and it the only time you can sneak a text. I dont know really what answer you wanted but then you have asked a strange question although I see a lot of people have given valid answers and it alright but why would even friendship have a 4 day in between counter if you said we just text a san when we can be it daily weekly or year just when we can I would understand but it seems like maybe you wanna text more but because your counter hasnt expired you cant.

I know in my previous post I sound mean and all that but the reason is because I think that your story does not make any sense. The whole story has a theme but its time stamps are wierd. One moment its monday next it tuesday next it sunday. I dont understand look at these bits I extracted from the story You said based on this statement I assume that you wrote this post on a Wednesday and that it is the day you were sat at the computer typing the story. But what happened from there. did you fall asleep for a wholeday and then wake up and continue typing the story cause you then say so from that bit lets see you writting on wednesday stopped texting her three days that thursday, friday and Saturday but suddenly its A day back and its friday. or is it Friday next which would be a further six days. we will assume that you mis calulated the days but are you in the future as in you were writting today (wednesday) but went forward in time so you writting on friday and its still today. Anyway you then go on to say.. so its been two weeks since wednesday today and this is present and past tense not future sense. But then we will assume this was a typo but you then go on to say this This is were my brain goes mental did it take you like 2 weeks to type that short little post. Is Monday Morning the same as Wednesday hmmmmmm I am so confused. Can anyone work this out for me or have I mis read or misunderstood the whole post.

If you dont want negetive answersFirstly i think the problem is not with the girl but with you. Clearly you are a very frustrating person. If a girl likes you and gives you her number then you text her and she says shes busy dont respond in a sarcastic manner like if you say so cause then you piss them off especially maybe they were busy at work and were frustrated. with what ever workload they have. The best thing you can do if you were in this situation is either be MR Nice guy or Mr Evil. never mr Doubting or Thomas or Sacastic Raymond. That right there discredited you because you basically called her a liar and tell me how did you want her to react? Did you expectr a kiss.Right now you text and she doesnt text for ages, maybe shes busy or just being nice to you. Shes only texting back because she feels its a nice way of saying well i didnt ignore you. What you wanna do is just quit thinking and texting her. Delete her number and all calls you made to her and all textxs and that way when you not hearing from her you'll blame you than wonder what the heck. At least its easier to cope with thinking she isnt texting me because I never texted her because I deleted her contact on my phone comapared to counting how many minutes have gone past since you texted and how many oipportunities shes had to text back but has had to text back but didnt.Also stop sucking up to her. Just either be a nice guy and do stuff to make her smile so she thinks about you and cant wait for your next text or just be a rude dude and make her think of how much an idiot you are btu at leats shes thinking bout you if you know what I mean. To behonest that ship has sailed. Just forget this girl she aint worth your time. Just let her go cause shes gonna be a waste of your valuable time and money. If she really likes you she will make an effort when she realises you not texting her anymore but until then she is a lost cause so STOP nagging her and leave her alone. You stressing her and stalking her with you constant nagging. Imaging an ex you dont want doing that to you texting and calling you'd be frustrated with her and think shes crazy. You are being like those wierd people on Jerry Springer who are fighting for someone who clearly doesnt want them anymore and they keep forcing their love on them anyway. I love you and you gonna leave her and come home with me and the persons like ok, we going home together cause I love oyu toooo NoooooooooooooooooootStop being a smug idiot who is too blind to see life just because Daddy never taught you how to react in a situation like this. actually I think daddy prepared you for this a long time ago. He taught you to use you common sense and right now you not using it. LEAVE HER ALONE other =wise you will start feeling low self esteema and this could lead to oyur demise in terms of depressiona dand stalking her and getting into trouble with the cops and rape and cyber stalking and those silent calls and the silly breathing down the phone calls. You just wanna walk away while this is a small issue or you may find oyurself stuck in a vicious circle.I have no idea what I just said in the previous paragraph. I guess I got carried away. But just to make it clear I suggest you leave this girl alone she is not worth your texts or time.

Hello to the man down under. I love how you introduce yourself to using yourcurriculum vitae or resume as they call it in the States. You have plenty of experience in life and work as we have seen in your enclosed life info and want to congratulate you on over 65 years of marraige. This is a really blessed thing there. Most marriages fail these days and people are not as commited to marriage as they used to be. Anyway I would Like to say you welcome abroad and you have all the qualities of the ideal person we would like to have on this forum. Just to ensure you understand the main points we considered that pushed me to say you are the right person for the job. ONe is you are from Australia and we have a policy in this company to have a multi cultural team on board. And while Immigration is a world wide problem at this moment we want you to feel welcome to join us as and when it suits you.Two. You have internet and can type on a keyboard. This is really te greatest point you had in your favour as you wqoould be useless if you can not take part in the forum discussions.Three. With the life expeience I see listed here on your CV I can see the you also have a lot of patience and understanding of the hard thing in life witnessed by the period you have been married. I can see that most of the fellow Kamasutrans will benefti fro your point of view as someone that has been through all or rather most of the basic things most of us will want to know about. I know things have chanmged since you were around the block but the underlining facts probably are still on the same basis. So on those three powerful merits I say WELCOME ABOARD KS forums and wish you all the fun and knowledge the world has to offer.

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Hey you Im glad you have come here. It is nice to see young people who have ambititon. At such a young age I love how you have suchj drive. One thing I would Love to learn of Drupal and or Joomla but they are so hard in my eyes and I just dont understand them They dont seem to do what I want but they sort of tell me what they cn do and I have to work around that. Seeing as you know drupal so well then maybe share where i can get a tutorial or step by step guide of dealing with drupal from start to finish. Normally I use Dreamweaver but building a site from scratch is daunting at times. and it would be nice to be able to sortof just customise bits of the look and be good to go. I know this is meant to be your intro and here I am asking for stuff but then I wouldnt have remebered this if it wasnt for you post. Hopefully when you return to see thses comments you will point me in the right direction.

hey hey welcome to the Forums and I sure do home your stay will benefit both you and us. We welcome all new people who wanna come and get or impart knowledge with the rest of us. I also want to say we are all looking forward to seeing your posts and as you can see we are all geared to respone to posts and give our input be it welcoming or aiding a fellow KS member. So feel free to contribute or ask anything and we will do what we can to help. THen again WEB_DESIGNER is right. You posted then dissapeared lol where have you gone to. Show yourself we have stopped playing hide and go seek. THe game is over mainly because we never started playing in the first place. So come out of hiding and show us you at least read our responses to you.

hey dab nice to meet you. Hopefully you doing fine on these forums and made a bit of mycents. i AM GLAD TO SEE NEW PEOPLE JOINING THE FAMILY AND LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR POSTS. sORRY THERE my caps lock got stuck didnnt mean to yell or shout or what ever it means to type in Caps. Anyway how are you and how are you finding these forums. Hopefully you finding friends and a lot of knowledge on here. If you ever need anything or any help just do as all the other people have probably said before all it takes is you to post and we will get on the post and read it and respond were we feel we have the knowledge. and trust me a lot of us have input to share with anyone needing advice.Welcome to our forums and hope you gonna enjoy learning and hanging out with us on KS

Hey Chinago welcome to the knowledgable ones forums. Here you have come to the right place for knowledge and of course the free hosting. You have already taken a few step in the right direction but coming here because registering here is half the job done. Soon you will get into the posting and threading and get carried awaya and maybe even spend a few sleepless night cause you addicted to reading and posting and all that then you will get into the whole MYCENTS thingy and get excited and disappointed with every few posts.One thing I can guarantee is you will find lots interesting posts and people on here and you will maybe form friendships and maybe even enemies but stillt hats the life on the net theres a different person around every corner welll maybe lets not say around corners lets say with each click.Dont mean to scare you but it would be nice to bea meanie lolWelcome to the Knowledge forums Chivision.

Ohayo gozaymusheheh maybe wrong spelling there but I hopefully said Hello back. Welcome to the Best Forums in the world in my book. And I know you will definitely be with us for years to come. The term free hosting and free site doent mean its free free it just means its not physical cash. Obviously we have to pay for hosting useing MYCENTS and this can only be made by posting posts in the forums. I see you a graphic designer and I would love to see some of your work. Once your site is running please share the link with us all and we can also rate your site and give feeback.Welcome to the family Bro and hopefully your stay with us will be one of gaining knowledge and free* hosting for years to come

hey hey Welcome to Kamasutra ooopsI mean Xisto. Your username is kinda interesting. YsNoi is it pronounced like YESNOI or different.If you have joined us for free hosting and domain names you have come to the right place. In exchange we ask that you post stuff on here. heheb I sound like a admin now but thats just me making small talk. Hopefully we will learn stuff from you and you will learn stuff from our posts too. If theres is anything you would like to know or ask feel free to posts as and when you please. Most of us are here almost every day for a few hours and will glady help out with advice or links or whatever way we can as long as there is a question thereb will definitley be answers. You dont only have to ask questions too, maybe you just wanna tell people bout life experiences you been through, or a stranger went through. We love hearing stuff like that, just post post post and it will help you get mYCents too so you benfit both way.Welcome to Xisto buddy

Welcome to Ks Vistz I like how you worked out your username. Its really cool. You say you are on Xisto that really cool. I tried signing up there but those days they had a server problem and it wouldnt send that email to confirm to my email address i eventually gave up. That was like halfa decade back . OmG i just realised i been with KS for near 1/6th of my life wow. Time flies and I must say during that period I have learnt and gained so much stuff from the fellow Sutras who come on here. from Web site desing knowledge to scripts to general advice and also helping others who had question or simply needed a shoulder to cry on. We are a nice big community on here and I know we will bump into each on the forums and all and hopefully we will chat here and there. Just to also sya oyu have made a great choice by choosing Xisto because as the name suggests this place is bubbling with know it alls and trust me all it takes to find the answer is to post a question and ask.Welcome to the family Vistz.heheh maybe i should call my self gogole cause i once miss typedthat instead of google lol jokes buddy

Legendary 112 welcome my friend. This here Xisto is a whole new world of knowledge and opinion. Hopefully you have by now familiaried yourself with the posting rules and the Mycents system and are on your way to a free* domain/ hosting.This is not where the journey end but this is where it actually begins because once you have got the basics you still need to constatntly talk to and help out and be helpout by the trappers Family. We are all knowledgeable in certain feilds and we all have weaknesses in our knowledge. This is where KS comes in. We all share our concerns in a topic post and everyone get to read and offer their opinion. Which means there is a good chance of getting good advice or know how on how to handle life's situations from romance to computing, fom religion to Death. I know you probably are here for making friendships and we would all love to be your frined you can inbox anyone anytime with questions or just genral talk. You'll find most of us are really nice caring people. Except maybe me hehehehAnyway welcome to the family and hope you find KS as knowledgable as I have found it since I joined which was like i think 4 years gone or soWelcome

Im so glad you have joied the KS family. and we look forward to sharing and hearing from you. Welcome to Kamasutra a lso known as Trap 17 so dont worry if you hear people saying trappers thats the old name this site used to go by. Anyway you have made a good move by coming on these forums because sharing is caring. There is parts of this world only you know about and your advice is going to beinvaluable also we are all here to help out where we can so if ever you want to find out any thing or have any question with lifes journey feel fre e to post and we will read and hopefully those of us who have a good enough answer will help you out. As your name suggests you are theseeker and you seeking knowledge and answers hopefully thnis is a pot of knowledge will provide you with whatever you are seeking. Take care and once more welcome to Xisto TheSeeker

Thanks Web designer for those links. I hjaven't tried them but just managed to have a look at them i like the first two especially the first one cause it looks more flexible and doesnt have to much size on it. Its minimal and just perfect for a little side script which I came up with over night. You are such a darling WB with out you KS would be a real drag. You are the best sister anyone can ask for. I will go try those links and see which is best to adapt for my little project and probably get back to you on here if i have used them and what i no longer need or still require **smiles** In the mean time I am still looking to get a script for this as stated in my first post I dont know if i was clear as to my requirement in this part. Ok Let me try and make hings clearer for those who might not completely understand what Im trying to get her. I am looking to get a STAND ALONE PROGRAM. basically like a .exe file which will be downloaded and installed or unzipped so that even without someone logging into my website and clicking the listen link, if they just start up the little program it will automatically connect to my streaming music server and play what ever audio is being streamed. I hope this sort of gives a more clearer picture of what I want. Thanks again in advance for the help. Now let me go back to Web Designers Post and see which of those links is perfect for my needs. In the meantime WB, please go ahead and post more links just in case.