lonebyrd 0 Report post Posted March 13, 2007 I don't know if that is the right title but here goes. The computer I'm on is connected to the internet via dial-up and has a printer connected to it. My computer has no internet connection, but has many graphics programs and things that I would like to transfer the the internet connected computer. I had the computers networked when I had highspeed internet and a cable modem, but I'm not sure how to network them now that their both not on the internet. So my question is, how do I network these two computers? (I know it's probably very simple) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abhay 0 Report post Posted March 13, 2007 You will need lan cards on both of the computers. Then follow the following steps :1. Connect lan cards of both the computers with a cross cable.2. Assign private IP address of same class to both computers (say 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2).3. Make sure that workgroup of both the computers is same to share files among them.4. To share files and internet connection you can run network setup wizard from control panel>network connections.5. To share your internet connection you can use a proxy server also.I hope this will help you.regards abhay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lonebyrd 0 Report post Posted March 14, 2007 Well, maybe I'm just a little dumb in this area. First I should have made it clear, I'm using Windows XP. Second, I'm not trying to set up an internet connection because I'm on dial-up, so I don't think we can share that. I went to Control Panel>Network Connections and tried to set up a new connection. There were many options. All I want to do is share files. I couldn't find that. Everything was about internet connection. The only connections left unused on this computer are USB ports and an Ethernet port. I have both of those unused on the other computer also, but I have no clue how to connect them to share files. Like I said in my first post, maybe networking was the wrong title for this. Can someone give me a clue? I'm just plain stupid when it comes to this kinda stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nightfox1405241487 0 Report post Posted March 14, 2007 Simple. Get a crossover cable and connect your two computers together (assuming both have NIC cards). Then you just share what you need on either computer and then just access what you need from each computer. If you need anymore assistance, please ask. I'm a networking genius and I have a high reputation around for being good at networking... not only that, I've won many networking competitons. I know what I'm talking about.[N]F Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vhortex 1 Report post Posted March 15, 2007 Simple. Get a crossover cable and connect your two computers together (assuming both have NIC cards). Then you just share what you need on either computer and then just access what you need from each computer. If you need anymore assistance, please ask. I'm a networking genius and I have a high reputation around for being good at networking... not only that, I've won many networking competitons. I know what I'm talking about.[N]F i think both have a NIC card and since he is a norm person when it comes to tech stuff.. NIC card is just a plan Lan Card where you put those local access cables. NIC cards are sometimes optional.. if you have two computers and both have a modem.. you can just create a null modem settings or modem to modem setup.. meaning that both modem are connected to each other. just be sure to put a phone line cable going from one pc to the other pc.------i am not as good as 'nightfox' but i got a reputation in file sharing and stealth computer share. My specialty are Xcables and network tunnels.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unimatrix 0 Report post Posted March 15, 2007 (edited) Cross over networking cable is your best friend. Modem to modem is going to be rather slow, but can work. I installed a NIC in my dad's old compaq with windows 98 SE so we could quickly transfer over a bunch of files including some large graphics files and movie files that were once edited with Adobe Premiere many moons ago. It worked out extremely well only taking a few minutes to transfer. Edited March 15, 2007 by unimatrix (see edit history) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vhortex 1 Report post Posted March 16, 2007 Cross over networking cable is your best friend. Modem to modem is going to be rather slow, but can work.nice thing for mentioning this one.. Xcable or cross cable can have you a connection speed of 100kbps up depending on your lan card speed while on modem to modem.. most of the time the speed is around 56kbos or sometimes lower..kbps is the unit of speed in computer transmission..i guess that you are not going to use modems anyway...----if you are only transfering files in just one time setup.. just attached the harddisk of the other computer to into the motherboard of the other computer. then copy files, speed is limited on how fast your harddisk can read and write data.. i am using a specialise harddisk bay in my computer where i just put the harddisk in an adaptor, slide it in my harddisk cradle and all cables snap in.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nightfox1405241487 0 Report post Posted March 17, 2007 Yeah, you also have the option vhortex gave... just move the hard disk (don't forget to set the jumper settings!) into the computer you want to transfer them to. Windows (assuming this is your OS of choice) should see it as drive E:, F:, G:, H:, etc. depending on if you have other drives. If you only have a C: and D:, then this second hard disk will be seen as E:. Once you copy everything over, just set the jumpers back and place the drive back into the other computer and you'll be good to go! [N]F Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chesso 0 Report post Posted March 17, 2007 Heck if you have an ADSL modem, as far as I know, chances are you have 2 options of connection, ETHERNET and USB.Simply use ETHERNET in one and USB in the other (USB connected will probably need a driver installed for it).And that's it, my DHCP or w/e automatically assigns my main computer with 10.0.0.2 and my brothers with 10.0.0.1, and we share files all the time through the use of DCC Send in mIRC so I can print out work and stuff for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iGuest 3 Report post Posted February 16, 2008 connecting two computer using modem without using phone line Networking Computers Without Modem? 1) Is it possible to connect DIRECTELY two computers just using two modems Directely connected with a rj11 cable??? 2) How can we do it using Hyper Terminal and ATA+<ENTER> on the server and ATD+<Enter> on the client in order to exchange files??? With what operative system? Windows, Mac, Linux etc.? -Ujjwal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yordan 10 Report post Posted February 16, 2008 2) How can we do it using Hyper Terminal and ATA+<ENTER> on the server and ATD+<Enter> on the client in order to exchange files???With what operative system? Windows, Mac, Linux etc.?-UjjwalForget about this, hyperterminal cannot. Hyperminal will emulate an ascii terminal, you cannot use it for file transfers. if you really wanted file transfers, you would have to use kermit : kermit client at client side, kermit server at server side.By the way, the topic title is "without modem" and you explain how to use two modems. But, yes, it will work, but the modem-to-modem cable is not a standard one, it's a home-made cross-cable. However, of course, the best way for connecting two computers is using a direct cable between the two Ethernet adapters, because Crosoft windows has everything necessaray for that already embedded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iGuest 3 Report post Posted November 4, 2008 Internet access through lan Networking Computers Without Modem? Can we access the internet through LAN between two computers. I have already accessing files and folders is it possible to access internet also? -question by sachin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
junn.flores 0 Report post Posted November 26, 2008 You can use a null modem cable so you'll no longer need the RJ11 or the modems. What you can do is this: 1. Connect your computers using a laplink cable or an RS-232 null modem cable thru your serial ports at the back of your PCs (either DB9 or DB25 connector ports). The cable can be bought from your local computer or electronic stores. 2. Then you can run LapLink software or Windows DCC (Direct Cable Connection) to make the actual system interconnection. 3. Now you can transfer files. But my suggestion is this: 1. Get a network card for each PC. 2. Connect them thru a crossover UTP cable. 3. Set up each PC to have an IP address of say like 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2. 4. Make them members of the same workgroup. 5. And presto! you got a good fast working LAN! connecting two computer using modem without using phone line Networking Computers Without Modem? 1) Is it possible to connect DIRECTELY two computers just using two modems Directely connected with a rj11 cable??? 2) How can we do it using Hyper Terminal and ATA+<ENTER> on the server and ATD+<Enter> on the client in order to exchange files??? With what operative system? Windows, Mac, Linux etc.? -Ujjwal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
veerumits 0 Report post Posted November 26, 2008 I don't know if that is the right title but here goes. The computer I'm on is connected to the internet via dial-up and has a printer connected to it. My computer has no internet connection, but has many graphics programs and things that I would like to transfer the the internet connected computer. I had the computers networked when I had highspeed internet and a cable modem, but I'm not sure how to network them now that their both not on the internet. So my question is, how do I network these two computers? (I know it's probably very simple)If you follow these steps to Connect your PCs here I am also clear one thing that what is the use cross and straight cables and which you use for your purpose.The following diagram shows the Normal use of Crossed and Straight cables 1) <--Straight -->(Hub or Switch) -->Crossed<---(Hub or Switch) <---Straight --->(PC) 2) (PC) <-----Crossed ------>(PC) Important Notes: 1. We show Straight cables as Bold and Crossed as Italian. cable color can be anything you choose. 2. To avoid the need for Crossed cables if you have UPLINK ports on Hubs or Switches - these are specially designed to allow the use of a straight cable when connecting back-to-back Hubs or Switches. Crossed Cable Connection:- give the no. of both end same and joined as follows. One end RJ45 Male Other end RJ45 Male 1 3 2 6 3 1 4 * 5 * 5 * 4 * 6 2 7 * 8 * 8 * 7 * Straight Cable Connection:- One End Same As other End of RJ45, Color code is Optional if you choose for personal use. Pin No. conductor color 1 white and orange 2 Orange 3 white and green 4 Blue 5 white and blue 6 Green 7 white and brown 8 Brown In this way you can physically connected your both PC and if you want to share files use share file system wizard. To share the file. please dont think that this is perfect way to do this task have so many alternatives so you can use as per convenient. this is also need. 1. Get a network card for each PC. 2. Connect them thru a crossover UTP cable. 3. Set up each PC to have an IP address of say like 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2. 4. Make them members of the same workgroup. 5. And presto! you got a good fast working LAN! thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby 0 Report post Posted November 26, 2008 (edited) USB cannot be Pc to Pc, without a network card and not external storage, all there is is Firewire, which is rare on PCs. Ethernet is pretty common, depends what you mean by lacking modem.edit: Oh okay, software would get around the 5v power thing which apparantly otherwise can ruin the motherboard. Edited November 27, 2008 by toby (see edit history) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites