Sperm Donors Wanted! - Human Sperm To Impregnate A Female Chimpanzee Humaneeze breeding program

[Watermonkey 0]

Ok, I'm not sure if I can say this with a straight face, so I'll just say for you poor college students who need some extra green for that weekend movie (Mike, you reading this?), you might check in to this more closely. You never know, some of your relatives down the line might actually be able to say, with honesty, "Well, I'm a monkey's Uncle!"

I guess some perverts are wanting your "seed" so they can create the ultimate, uh.... Well, someone help me out here: THE LINK Horror? Nightmare? Improvement? SIN?

Here's the original article in case the link disappears at some point...

Exclusive: Half man, half chimp - should we beware the apeman's coming?

Creation of a hybrid using human sperm to impregnate a female chimpanzee would be legal

Published Date: 29 April 2008
By JENNY HAWORTH

A LEADING scientist has warned a new species of "humanzee," created from breeding apes with humans, could become a reality unless the government acts to stop scientists experimenting.
In an interview with The Scotsman, Dr Calum MacKellar, director of research at the Scottish Council on Human Bioethics, warned the controversial draft Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill did not prevent human sperm being inseminated into animals.

He said if a female chimpanzee was inseminated with human sperm the two species would be closely enough related that a hybrid could be born.

He said scientists could possibly try to develop the new species to fill the demand for organ donors.

Leading scientists say there is no reason why the two species could not breed, although they question why anyone would want to try such a technique.

Other hybrid species already created include crossed tigers and lions and sheep and goats.

Dr MacKellar said he feared the consequences if scientists made a concerted effort to cross humans with chimpanzees. He said: "Nobody knows what they would get if they tried hard enough. The insemination of animals with human sperm should be prohibited.

"The Human Fertilisation and Embryo Bill prohibits the placement of animal sperm into a woman The reverse is not prohibited. It's not even mentioned. This should not be the case."

He said if the process was not banned, scientists would be "very likely" to try it, and it would be likely humans and chimps could successfully reproduce.

"If you put human sperm into a frog it would probably create an embryo, but it probably wouldn't go very far," he said.

"But if you do it with a non-human primate it's not beyond the realms of possibility that it could be born alive."

Dr MacKellar said the resulting creature could raise ethical dilemmas, such as whether it would be treated as human or animal, and what rights it would have.

"If it was never able to be self-aware or self-conscious it would probably be considered an animal," he said. "However, if there was a possibility of humanzees developing a conscience, you have a far more difficult dilemma on your hands."

He said fascination would be enough of a motive for scientists to try crossing the two species.

But he also said there was a small chance of scientists using the method to "humanise" organs for transplant into humans. "There's a desperate need for organs. One of the solutions that has been looked at is using animal organs, but because there's a very serious risk of rejection using animal organs in humans they are already trying to humanise these organs.

"If they could create these humanzees who are substantially human but are not considered as humans in law , we could have a large provision of organs."

He wrote to the Department of Health to ask that the gap in the draft legislation be addressed.

The department confirmed that the bill "does not cover the artificial insemination of an animal with human sperm".

It said: "Owing to the significant differences between human and animal genomes, they are incompatible and the development of a foetus or progeny is impossible.

"Therefore such activity would have no rational scientific justification, as there would be no measurable outcome."

Dr MacKellar disagrees. He said: "The chromosomal difference between a goat and a sheep is greater than between humans and chimpanzees."

Professor Bob Millar, director of the Medical Research Council Human Reproductive Sciences Unit, based in Edinburgh, agreed viable offspring would be possible. He said: "Donkeys can mate with horses and create infertile offspring; maybe that could happen with chimpanzees."

But he said he would oppose any such attempt. "It's unnecessary and ridiculous and no serious scientist would consider such a thing. Ethically, it's not appropriate.

"It's also completely impractical. Chimps would never be a source of organs for humans because of the viruses they carry and the low numbers."

Professor Hugh McLachlan, professor of applied philosophy at Glasgow Caledonian University's School of Law and Applied Sciences, said although the idea was "troublesome", he could see no ethical objections to the creation of humanzees.

"Any species came to be what it is now because of all sorts of interaction in the past," he said.

"If it turns out in the future there was fertilisation between a human animal and a non-human animal, it's an idea that is troublesome, but in terms of what particular ethical principle is breached it's not clear to me.

"I share their squeamishness and unease, but I'm not sure that unease can be expressed in terms of an ethical principle."

A Department of Health spokeswoman said: "It's just not a problem. If you inseminate an animal with human sperm, scientifically nothing happens. The species barriers are too great."

HYBRIDS ARE AT CROSS PURPOSES

EVEN though hybrids of humans and animals have never been created, many other creatures have been crossed successfully.

Lions and tigers have been bred to create ligers, the world's largest cats.

And there are also zorses (zebra and horse), wholphins (whale and dolphin), tigons (tiger and lion), lepjags (leopard and jaguar) and zonkeys (zebra and donkey).

As well as these hybrid mammals, there are also hybrid birds, fish, insects and plants.

Many hybrids, such as mules, are sterile, which prevents the movement of genes from one species to another, keeping both species distinct. However, some can reproduce and there are scientists who believe that grey wolves and coyotes mated thousands of years ago to create a new species, the red wolf.

More commonly, hybrids mate with one of their parent species, which can influence the genetic mix of what gets passed along to subsequent generations.

Hybrids can have desirable traits, often being fitter or larger than either parent.

Most hybrid animals have been bred in captivity, but there are examples of the process occurring in the wild.

This is far more common in plants than animals but in April 2006 a hunter in Canada's North-west Territories shot a polar bear whose fur had an orange tint.

Research showed that it had a grizzly bear father, and it became known as a pizzly.

In 2003, DNA analysis confirmed that five odd-looking felines found in Maine and Minnesota were bobcat-lynx hybrids, dubbed blynxes.

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[midnightvamp 1]

That's a tricky topic One half of me wants to know if it could be done, and if it could, how it would turn out. But then there's the other half of myself that says, there's no way that's a good idea... but it still leaves me curious as to what would happen. I think the animal hybrids are pretty cool... but it's just kind of weird to think about that in human terms.Oh, and would it be the donor's brother that could say... "I'm a monkey's uncle"? It's almost worth it just to be able to say that Too bad I'm not a guy, and I don't have a brother hahaAnyway... strange and interesting article none the less. Nice find

[Forbez 0]

Hm, this is very tricky subject. One hand, we'll get to see what will be reproduced. On the other hand, this is wrong really. Cross breeding is wrong and there's always something wrong with the reproduced child. Look at Horses and Donkeys, when they reproduce together their child can't reproduce itself.But a Human and a Chimpanzee? Could be an intelligent Chimpanzee, or Human with Chimpanzee behaviour.

[cangor 0]

Wow... wow... that's so... wrong. I don't know why, it's just not meant to be, and plus that's bordering on animal cruelty at the same time. I mean, sure, scientifically, it would be interesting, but there are just things that shouldn't be done, and that's one of them. I mean, how disgusting would it be to have chimp sperm used to impregnate a human female? Do I need to say AWFUL? And besides, that's not even taking into account what freak of a child would come from such an experiment. I just think the whole thing is perverse and cruel...

[Saint_Michael 3]

Who knows odds are we could make the Planet of the Apes movies look real if this was done. What is scary though at a genetic level it could be possible, but really though what would be the point of though, oooh we get free organs!! However, if history serves me correct exchanging human parts with animal parts hasn't been all that successful, and so there are some things we humans should even be doing. Besides there are better things to do then see a half human baby come out of a monkey, disturbing and yet intriguing site to see.

[adriantc 0]

WOW... I read the title of this topic twice, just to be sure I'm not mistaking... I think theoretically it could be done since we share so much of our DNA with our closest living relatives, the chimpanzee. But why would somebody do it? What is to be gained? I fail to see any reason - beside the "just for the fun of it"... Seriously it makes a lot more sense of cloning people then cross breeding! At least there is something to be gained from it (immoral perspective: organ donors, Ginny pigs...).Anyway I don't think a "apeman" could breed or live a long life. The miracle of evolution has put in place some "security measures" against such cases. Usually such individuals are born sterile, so it cannot have any offspring's. They are also inclined to have fatal diseases. We have to remember nature builds things a lot more durable then we do. So no civilization for them - if it does happen it will only be able to multiply in a lab.If we are to cross that border, the cross breeding border (nice word game), it means we have already crossed other borders, like cloning or gene manipulation, borders which cannot be crossed back. If that day shall come may God (if there is one) have mercy on our souls!

[Inhuman 0]

I was thinking 2 things while reading that: Planet of the Apes and Bigfoot / Yeti.Basically with Planet of the Apes, yea, it's only fiction, but if this were to go down, then we could be enslaved by apes, and that just isn't all that great if you think about it.....As for Bigfoot and / or Yeti, these are rumored to already exist....which makes me think some backwards hick had intercourse with a chimp or something....Yea, my mind is weird when I'm on little sleep.

[jlhaslip 4]

Well, I don't think this 'cross-breeding' thing is a good idea at all.

And for those who might be thinking that it is a good thing, here is an image to consider before continuing with the Donater Program:

 

 

Was this picture taken Before? or After?

[KansukeKojima 0]

Well, that would certainly be very interesting to see how it turned out. Seriously though, I'd say don't screw around with the way God has set things. After all, He made it, and said that it was good. There could be many unforeseen consequences of this (especially if the 'humanzee' was somewhat as intelligent as a human).And also, using them to harvest organs, that is kind of sick. I mean really, breeding an interspecies animal is screwed up enough, but then killing it to harvest organs? Well, I guess it'd be similar to raising cattle, but still... and if the 'humanzee' did have some sort of human-like intelligence, well... I don't think that would go to well.

[iGuest 3]

ready to donate

Sperm Donors Wanted! - Human Sperm To Impregnate A Female Chimpanzee

 

 

Replying to Saint_Michael

Replying to midnightvamp

 

Good day

It is nice for me to know that, my sperm could be use for research

as for me there is no problem with the research,

if my sperm will be use for the purpose

how will this happen,

for that will be my greatest wish

 

 

-reply by ericson

[jopak134 0]

this will be like artificial insemination. this will be a test of evolution. it can be done if we share a common ancestor if not then it can't. this will be a day when i will see my flying monkey man

[Plenoptic 0]

One part of me thinks that if it works the "humanzee" will come out just one untamed human but chimpanzees and other animals have been able to be trained and some seem to be smarter than we are in many ways. It makes one wonder if we did evolve from them. I hope they know what they are doing though because it will take some extreme care to keep the hybrid alive if it is born living in the first place. I guess I could see the use of them as organ donors if they fit but what are they going to do with them as they live through their life. Sure they will study them but what kind of environment are they going to live in as no one can truly say they know how they will act. I guess they can be trained if they have some human genes and they could be raised to be obedient but they would have to mix monkey tactics with human tactics. Studying of chimps has been done for years but not for half human half chimps which could be more different than they think. Good luck to their studies though and hopefully if successful there will be something beneficial to come out of this.

[rayzoredge 2]

I'm surprised that no one brought up alimony or child support. Very strange times we're in nowadays... and to think of the arguments for and against this sort of thing. Do we go out and play God to possibly harness the potential of breeding more beneficial animals and beings with desirable traits (and possible vassals for organs for the ill-fated), or not even venture into those possibilities, letting people die of the diseases curable by such progression of science but maintaining the ethics we've established for natural occurrence?I'm interested to see what happens, but in all reality, I'm all up for producing ways to help other people, even though it may seem a little unorthodox to do it this way.

[bishoujo 0]

This is just so wrong. It's completely immoral, not to mention, gross.

[iGuest 3]

cmon!!

Sperm Donors Wanted! - Human Sperm To Impregnate A Female Chimpanzee

 

Have this never been tried before!????????

It would make a HUGE impact on the human race as we know it!

 

47% of americans are creationists, think how many we could convert to finally believe in evolution!

 

Finally we would have to seriously consider the role of humans in the world, animal rights and vegetarianism.

 

I have a new life goal now.. I want to be the parent of a humanzee!

 

-reply by Robin