husker 0 Report post Posted July 1, 2006 I believe that when we were born, God set our future, and we can't change it, no matter what we do. We can practice all we want at something, but we still will not suceed at it. The problem is, we don't know what we were meant to be, so we try different things. We practice a lot at something, because we feel that it might be our future. So should we just sit and wait? What do you think? Sorry if I confused you or if I am just being weird. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
delivi 0 Report post Posted July 1, 2006 There is nothing to be confused in this.We've to just life our life daily as it comes, by judging what is right and what is wrong with the fear of god and perform all our duties promptly. IF we are correct then there is nothing to worry about our future. So cheerup and stop worrying for the future and take care about the present. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plenoptic 0 Report post Posted July 2, 2006 Well I think we can't change our future because our future isn't really there. It is an abstract object I guess you could say. I don't think God sets our future because he wants us to choose what we should do. If it was up to him we all would go to heaven. We choose our future and can change what happens but there was nothing there to change in the first place because it isn't a for sure thing. That is my thought on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dooga 0 Report post Posted July 2, 2006 Well if you want to believe in a more "scientific" future/fate, then start researching "Chaos Theory".Basically, the chaos theory claims that every single event is triggered by another one, hence, this already set loop can not be modified. So sitting and waiting is the result of you thinking that there's a fate in your life, which was because of this and that, which came from this etc.If this theory is true, people would be able to predict the future.... which also gives a new thought...Is it possible to modify an already set future? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dyknight 0 Report post Posted July 2, 2006 Basically, the chaos theory claims that every single event is triggered by another one, hence, this already set loop can not be modified. So sitting and waiting is the result of you thinking that there's a fate in your life, which was because of this and that, which came from this etc.Wait...this doesn't necessary mean that we can't change our future. Since 1 event leads to another event, we just need to have another event to trigger another another event to change our future. Like...do something and it will result in something! Tell me if i am wrong.Science aside, I do not think that we cannot modify our future. Fate lies in our hands, we hold infinity. Never underestimate yourself and give up because you think you are fated not to succeed.May the force be with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harad 0 Report post Posted July 2, 2006 There is nothing to be confused in this.We've to just life our life daily as it comes, by judging what is right and what is wrong with the fear of god and perform all our duties promptly. IF we are correct then there is nothing to worry about our future. So cheerup and stop worrying for the future and take care about the present.talk about yourself man... if you do something because you are afraid of god, that doesn't mean everyone is doing such thing... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dooga 0 Report post Posted July 2, 2006 Wait...this doesn't necessary mean that we can't change our future. Since 1 event leads to another event, we just need to have another event to trigger another another event to change our future. Like...do something and it will result in something! Tell me if i am wrong.Science aside, I do not think that we cannot modify our future. Fate lies in our hands, we hold infinity. Never underestimate yourself and give up because you think you are fated not to succeed.May the force be with you. Well you can change the future, but the future you changed, is the future that's already been set. So technically, the action of you changing your future, is your future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
biscuitrat 0 Report post Posted July 2, 2006 I really have no religious view of this. I think the only reason we're here is to decide our own fate. I don't think any spiritual being has the power to say what kind of car you're going to drive, or which college you're going to. Those are all dependent on money, opinion, or grades - nothing religious about them. It drives me insane that so many people think of predestination as something religious, which its not. It just means that humans have a specific path in the world that they follow - which we do, to a certain extent. Most humans have a childhood with elementary school and hobbies, middle school with building talents, and high school with showing them off - then college to fully develop them. After that, you go through the world with what you've learned and do what you want (not that you can't before, but parents normally don't like the idea of you joining the circus right after high school). Your life is always in your hands, you just don't notice it at first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cerebral Stasis 0 Report post Posted July 3, 2006 Well, if we're going to talk religious about this (I am very deeply anti-religion, by the way), pastors will often say that one can pray, but one must attempt to accomplish what they want themselves and that God will help (kind of like doing all the work and when you're finished, you think you had help). In any case, the point is that you won't accomplish what you want to accomplish by sitting around. What does it matter if the future is set or not, if every decision has been made for us already and we are just following a plan? Since this plan is obviously beyond our ability to comprehend, attempting to do so would be a waste of time, at least at the present (note I am saying this for debate's sake - I personally think that free will changes everything so rapidly that there is no way to predict the future accurately and there may well never be). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pixieloo 0 Report post Posted July 3, 2006 I think God has a plan for each of us. If we are willing to trust God, it will be done. I think we should try things out, and God will tell us if it's the right thing. And just pray pray pray, lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
no9t9 0 Report post Posted July 3, 2006 Why do people believe god would even care about what we do? If there was a god and it was as powerful as people say it is, then it is highly likely that it doesn't care and never will care about what we do. all the writings of what god can do and what god is like is written by a man who HOPES that god will do those things because without those things, life would be meaningless for people. People get meaning from life beause they think there is something after this life. They do things in this life to prepare for the next life.In terms of god having a plan for us and our future being predetermined because of it... that's just BS. How can god have a plan for us? In order for god to have a plan for us, god must actually care about us first.If god were as god is described, I really doubt god would care about individuals in this world. He might care about how the OVERALL world is moving along but not individuals. If I owned an ant farm, I would not care much about what each individual ant was doing. I would just care that my colony didnt die and was living well. Besides, that I don't care what they do individually.God is probably the same way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DjLuki 0 Report post Posted July 3, 2006 ah i wonder the same thing sometimes, what are we here for, what were we brought here to do? there are many religions in this world so it's hard to know nd we don't even know if there is an after life excpe that we have to go by our holy books. I don't know if we can change our future, i dont really think we an. we're in gods hands and thats the person who controls it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dagoth Nereviar 0 Report post Posted July 3, 2006 I don't think we're set to a certain path, but I DO think certain things are meant to happen.For example (No offense meant by using this example) Hitler and the holocaust was meant to happen, but it wasn't neccesirally (sp?) Hitler that killed them all, and it wasn't neccesirally (sp again?) Jews that were mainly killed...That sentence made sense in my head...I think... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joshua 0 Report post Posted July 10, 2006 If you go by the Bible, it says that God isn't willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. So God wants everyone to spend eternity with Him. If so, I can only assume that the promises are indeed to "whosoever" and that while our sinning may lead to God hardening our hearts, there is always a chance for any person, at least in this life, to realize their horrible mistakes, repent, and come to find ultimate forgiveness for all sins they'll ever commit and a real, living relationship with the One and only Living God. God loves creating and loves righteousness, if everything was set in stone as far as the future, how could He bear to get up in the morning? I think He's given us the ability to determine our futures and that's why He's trying so hard to knock on the hearts of everyone, and to draw all of us from Satan's clutches. It's why He wants us Christians to bring forth good works as befitting a truly repentant soul that others may find eternal life through the Christ by whom all consists and in whom we all exist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eternal 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2006 The confusing thing is that does what we do change the future, or is the choice that we made the choice that we were supposed to make, the future set in stone...i dont think i'll ever know the answer to that-eternal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
