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http://www.bloomberg.com/businessweek top 3 are non-christians, top 2 are atheists.

jack chick was last generation's ray comfort, the neo-apologist. And your 'sources' for religious charities are just more religious websites. It might also be of worth pointing out that many religious charities get very little in donations from members, and actually run off public funding.

of course, this is only because the vast majority of people are believers. You aren't talking proportionally. In fact, many fundies (like Jack Chick) advocate living your life worshiping jesus instead of solving world problems. I understand that. I was pointing out that this is the case for someone in particular. In this case, the poster of this thread.

yes, believing is very natural. People are terrified of death and the suffering in this world, and feel comfortable when they can convince themselves that they will live forever in paradise and all the bad guys will live forever in torture. It is also a big part of why no one is actually fixing our problems. The OP's signature is a perfect example of this; he uses religion to avoid dealing with death & not feel guilty about anything he does. As they say, ignorance is bliss.

the god of the chrisitan bible is very fond of killing, just take a casual stroll through exodus

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if the earth is 6k years old and all of the massive erosions were caused by a massive flood, why do we have fresh water plants?bam! ka-pow. reason #327 on why creationism makes no sense

since our resident fundie seems to be AWOL, I recently found this funny bible quirk! Taken from the king james translation: You can't make this stuff up! Anyone who actually believes some omnipotent being wrote this book is severely misguided.

you are thinking of astronomy. Astrology is the belief that what time during the year you were born will influence you throughout your life.

i don't think you guys 'get' itwhen alex sees what you guys are saying about him he won't be happy

wow dude, why do you have to be like that? Alex isn't evil, he's just a normal guy like you and me. Don't be jealous of his promotionedit: wait you changed your sig? Jeeze sky, you work me too hard

Alright then, so you admit it? You say god could have done ANYTHING and it would have redeemed us, as long as he said it did. So there was no need for a human sacrifice. No, it is an utmost act of arrogance. I don't want a god to sacrifice someone for my sins, especially when this apparent god prefers it to more peaceful alternatives, despite his "holiness, justice, and righteousness".

wow dude, don't be mean. the first thing i'll do as mod is give you a stern talking to

you're right, how could I be so naive! You aren't using circular logic, I'm asking circular questions! Makes perfect sense, just like how the jews did 9/11 and how noah chilled with dinosaurs.

can i have mod? thanks in advance

you don't seem to get it. He is basically "OK guys, because my son died NOW I can break my own rules." It makes absolutely no sense.If justice is really god's nature, then he has disobeyed his nature. You use circular logic when you say that it's OK for God to break his nature because God said this was a nature-breaking event. Why did god need to kill his son? Because he needed a price to be payed for sin. Why did he need a price to be paid for a sin? Because he said so. If he can just arbitrarily decided what counts, why did it have to be a horrible murder of a human being? Because he needed a price...It goes on and on.

Yes, I know all about Islamic beliefs. It doesn't make them rational or even reasonable. Obviously it is impossible to convince people they are delusional, we can clearly see that women from the Manson Family are still unquestionably loyal to charles even after his arrest and life sentence. If you walk into a discussion with the ASSUMPTION that you are right - that you are infallible, there is no real argument at all. Just stubbornness. I understand you have your reasons for thinking the way you do, and I also understand there reasons for this, mainly the inability of humans to fully comprehend randomness and thus the need to personify it in a way that makes it seem intelligent.

hey now, I registered a year before you! I don't think YOU'VE been around long enough to know Alex. in fact, judging from the tone in your second paragraph and your PM, I know you haven't btw can you make an edit of your current avatar that crosses your name out and says Red Alert? I don't have the time to do all that opacity stuff

everyone knows Alex is a horrible mod and only got the job because he donated a sizable sum of money to Xisto

Islam was spread with just as much force as Christianity, don't take the moral high ground here. Above all else, Muhammad was a military genius. His "book" likely came from a good idea to gain support and obedience among those he conquered, or just plain insanity.

trying to convert someone while under the assumption that your beliefs are correct and unchangeable is impossible. Plain and simple. and it's why you will probably never be able to convert an atheist.

if you believe the the bible is the word of god, you must believe that the church is infallible. Basically, if the bible is right, Catholicism is. So you bible thumpers better convert asap

i have a hard time seeing the thought process behind an omnipotent being killing his son so he doesn't have to abide by rules of justice (which is an oxymoron - omnipotent beings are, by definition, unrestrained by things like justice)

yeah dude the KKK beat up a latino that means they can kill the most protected man in the world no problem

why do you think presidents campaign? It's not to make them feel better about themselves, that's for sure. also, I find it funny how you can berate the democrat and republican candidates when you didn't even know the candidate of the party you support.