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I can see where xpress is coming from, a complete newbie might not even know what Apache is etc... So i suppose being confronted with 5 options, plus the "start as service" option for each is more complicated than a one click button option but i'd still recommend xampp. Every newbie has to learn sometime

I can, i do, i did and i will. Windows is developed for those who dont know how to use other operating systems. Microsoft will tell you it does everything a computer can possibly do. False. It allows the user to do very little in actual fact. But that's another debate. A vaccine causes the illness: FALSE The h1n1 vaccine and all other flu vaccines are made by modifying a harmless virus. they take some virus (cant remember its name) which humans cant be affected by and modify it by adding the h1n1 genetic data, hence making a hybrid virus. This is then injected into eggs (or into another carrier for egg-allergy sufferers) and once the egg attacks the hybrid virus it will produce antibodies which will kill the original h1n1 virus. Think of anti bodies as armour piercing rounds. You dont need to face a tank full of crew and ammo to develop a round to use against it. You simply need to see its empty, dead shell. Its armour. Your body doesnt need to fight an active infection, it simply needs to "see" the genetic data and "shape" of the attacker to form an effective defence. This is why there is no vaccine for the common cold. Every single cold you catch is different from the last. Your body becomes immune to the cold you had last week but is still unaware that the cold you will catch next year even exists, so it cant defend against it. Back in the day when they were vaccinating against cow pox i think it could indeed cause cow pox in the patient simply because they took active, living pox virus and inserted it straight into the patient (i think, my history is shaky) . But nowadays a real, living virus is NOT used and cannot infect you. You can however develop symptoms of a general infection. Eg a slight temperature increase or perhaps a runny nose but this is NOT a viral infection. When your body is under attack it will do a few things, one is to heat up to try and cook the virus to death, the other is to product mucus in your airways which is then sent up your throat to your nose and mouth to be spat out or swallowed. This mucus, or phlegm ( said "flem") is meant to carry the virus out of your body away from your lungs. So, your body sees a virus being injected into the skin and panics, it sends defenders to the attacks to fight it off and sometimes over-reacts causing the temperature, runny nose etc... But you will NOT develop the illness and you can NOT infect others. As for my wrong facts... I never claimed they were perfect, i was working on the assumption that 100% of people either caught the virus or were vaccinated. Even without that assumption my facts show that overall, in the world today, right now, the virus is much more dangerous than the vaccine and more people worldwide have died of the virus. To those that think i am a fool for wanting the vaccine... I ask you, do you know children? old people? Those with health conditions? That you personally meet, even on a weekly or less basis? Given the fact that a recent study said only 1/10 of the people infected knew it (eg, if 100 people have symptoms then 900 still have the virus but dont know) and the fact that the virus, as with any flu, can be deadly to those with bad health or weak immune systems then YOU, could cause the death of one of those people by not having the jab when offered. Obviously there are precautions like general hygiene but im just giving you that thought. Swine flu is no more dangerous than ordinary flu, and i do agree that the global community is panicking here, but given the bird flu scare and then the spanish flu epidemic humankind does have a reason to be afraid of flu. however, let's not get this out of proportion. If you are never offered the normal flu jab or you have had the flu before and just felt pretty rough then you have nothing to worry about. you have a tiny, tiny chance of complications. Still, it wont be pleasant but i agree, natural vaccination through infection is best. I imagine the jab isnt 100% effective and actually getting immunity through infection is probably more effective, however for those in the "at risk" group, this isnt an option. Infection could easily cause death or hospitalization, faced with that i would much rather have the jab. Wouldnt you agree? With relevance to the ingredients in the vaccine, i have directed you to the article showing that a fillet of salmon has more mercury than the jab, so yes, yes i would happily injest that amount of mercury, I'm already full of it from the trace amounts in everyday life so why not. With relevance to the other toxins i would rather have them than the flu thank you very much (*rolls up sleeve*) Quote time... Good, i too would suggest not having the jab. Your body can easily fight off the infection, though i hope that hypothesis isnt tested In the words of Jim Carey: "And the TRUTH, shall set you free..." Well done. Though i concede that scientists have massive holes in their knowledge they have enough experience here for my mind. Science has been fighting the flu every year for many, many years now. It isnt 100% safe, but you PC might short circuit and blow your face off right now, its a game of numbers. Disagree. In many ways the medicines we take now ARE the natural ones, but they are highly refined and combined with other natural remedies to make them more powerful. Aspirin and paracetamol are classic examples. Both originally found and made from natural plants, but concentrated and enhanced to give more power. Some things however are better naturally, even down to meditation and yoga. Medical treatment doesnt have to be drugs True, however dosage is the important factor here. Measure the atmosphere where you are right now. It will contain ozone, at the very least, which is a toxic gas that is formed when uv light hits oxygen molecules, it is often formed a lot in the summer which is why a lot of people with asthma suffer more in the summer. Of you breathe in a lot of ozone it will kill you. However, you are breathing it in right now and you are fine. You are also being bombarded with radiation, but you arent dying from it because the dose is so low. I dont know the lethal doses for those chemicals, however they are obviously well below that level in the vaccine otherwise it would have a huge mortality rate. I also dont expect they are anywhere near the harmful level. There is no need to put them that high as it's not as if baxter have a formaldehyde vaccine that they can then sell to the people who buy the flu jab. They cant generate extra income from it. I was vaccinated with the standard jabs here in the UK, it's probably a few, about 5 or 6 including the flu jab i got last year for the first time. However, i cant argue against your theory, i dont have the facts to use, i can however offer a few alternatives... polution in the last 100-150 years has been at its highest ever thanks to human activity, this includes of course exhaust gasses. Smoke and other pollutants (i mentioned ozone) are a major cause in asthma attacks, in fact it is probably the biggest cause, after perhaps general allergies including dust mites. You are referring to a trend whereby as time increases so does asthma incidence. If you were to draw this as a graph over the last 200 years and then overlay two other graphs for the same time period showing atmospheric pollution and the rates of increase in other reported disease you would almost certainly see all these lines following the same trend. Upwards. People are now more health conscious than ever, going to the doctor about every little thing, so more and more people are diagnosed. think back to before asthma was known of, the doctor would say its a cough and be done with it. a 0% incidence of asthma, doesnt mean it didnt exist of course, just that no-one was diagnosed with it. Your facts are based on diagnosis which is fairly intendant of actual illness, it depends on whether the victim goes to a doctor and what the doctor subjectively thinks the problem is. I may look into this later though, its an interesting thought and like i said, i dont have the facts to say you are wrong, but my alternatives are fairly convincing. I'm going to end my post on a few notes: i do not trust drug companies. I do not distrust them either. I have yet to see evidence of either verdict but i do believe they are chasing the money and curing disease comes second. That's pretty much a fact. I do not advocate healthy people getting the jab unless they are in contact regularly with at risk groups (eg carers) or are front line emergency staff (hospitals mainly). These groups can easily pass the virus on and lead to the death of someone, and in the case of emergency workers, who do you go to when all the doctors and nurses are ill? Who is more important in a fire, the emergency personnel or the victims? If the emergency works were all out of action through illness or injury then there would be no-one to save the countless thousands later on.

I would tend to disagree that xampp is complicated. It does have a lot of features but all a newbie needs to do is install xampp somewhere (i went with C:\xampp) then fire up the xampp control program which has a shortcut on the desktop and start menu and click the buttons to start HTTP and mysql servers. Then do the same to shut them down. The htdocs folder which is the publicly viewable folder (IE, you need to put your files here for them to work) can be tricky to find i admit but you can make a shortcut to that.

Xampp is also pretty good. Gives you FTP, email server, HTTP server and of course MYSQL and PhpMyAdmin.Its personal preference though, i prefer xampp because its so simple but the stuff the guys above recommended might suit you better, if you dont like those then try xampp and if you dont like that then get linux

:hover should do the trick. Tables have their place but i dropped them long ago for general layout. They are only good now for their intended purpose. Displaying data in a table, not for arranging links etc...

This comes down to copyright. Some movies are free, like many of the ones on youtube. Others are not. If it was released during your lifetime, and you have to either buy it on DVD or pay to see it in a cinema then it will be illegal.If you are in doubt go to the makers website and see what they say, or email the production company and ask.But it will be illegal if they are the latest releases.

It's true that a product doesnt have to be good to sell, think of horrible food for example, people still buy it because they have to.Windows is a good example, it's actually pretty bad but we still buy it because a) people are brainwashed into thinking its windows or nothing and people are stupid!

A vaccine cannot cure an illness, so if you get the flu then have the vaccine it will have absolutely no effect, it may even be a bad idea. It will only *prevent* illness or lessen the effects when you eventually get it. Imagine it as putting a shield around your body. A shield will do no good if the attacker is already behind your defences.I too am pro medicine but it is true that there need to be limits, at least morally, on what is acceptable and right.

It's an interesting debate when you put it that way, it is true that sometimes medical trials go horribly wrong, and with relevance to the h1n1 vaccine it was in fact fast tracked through approval to get it out as fast as possible. The seasonal flu vaccine is the same as they cant predict the next viral strain so they must wait until they see it and then make the vaccine, so in a way those that get the vaccine are indeed test subjects.It's a very hard subject to discuss objectively because it is so, so subjective to the point of view you have. From a purely scientific view, taking away all compassion and morals it is right to send 100 to their deaths to save 101 or more, assuming the entire 201 people were going to die or be at risk. This gives the human race the best chance of survival. Life, in its simplest form is simply survival, when look at from a cold, scientific way we are hear to have sex, make kids and die. Simple as. WHY the human race is so desperate to survive is the mystery. A species doesnt have a will, or a concious (according to science) with which to decide it wants to survive. A species as a group of organisms cannot decide or choose anything, it is down to the individual organism to be given that will to live. The root of the will to live is unknown, some attribute it to a spirit or soul. Others to chemicals in the brain. This is what makes it scientifically right to kill 100 to save 101+ morally however perhaps we, as a race, should accept our demise. We cause such harm and sadness, perhaps it is our time to perish. And thus accepting that we should not test medicines on anyone, but instead wait for the eventide to take us away. (I know the word "eventide" is the wrong one to use, but i had a massive urge to use it, so lets go with the flow!). You could argue that we should fight together, not fight each other in our race to achieve a disease free existence. Given the rate of computer technology i do think that within our lifetimes it will be possible to simulate the effects of any given drug or treatment on a cellular level purely within a computer simulation with 100% (or 99.9%) accuracy, in my mind that is good enough to warrant rolling the treatment out. I would of course feel differently if the 0.1% error margin was me or someone i loved... I accept there is a need to make medical technology finite, it's just a hard decision to accept that you may get some horrific disease just in an effort not to chase the fountain of youth. It raises the question of immortality. If offered an injection to give you immortality. Completely impervious to everything, bullets, knives etc... and even suicide and of course disease and old age. Would you accept it? Or would you rather die?It's such a difficult choice... On the one hand immortality, how amazing. Swimming to the bottom of the ocean for days and weeks on end with no danger of suffocation or crushing. Fires, would be harmless, floods just an inconvenience and war would be futile! But would you really want it? What happens in 50 billion years when the sun envelopes the earth? If humankind hasnt left the planet then what? an eternity floating around in the blinding brightness of the sun. But could you really say no? I dont know if i could.

I do think nature has a lot to provide in both natural remedies and the bodies ability to fight off disease and overcome faults. My asthma for example is curing itself as i "grow out of it" and that is the body's ability to cope with faults and overcome them. It is a remarkable organism. But it does need help in some cases. I would prefer a proven natural remedy (for example it was recently proven that a Brazillian mint tea is as effective as synthetic drugs at getting rid of pain, so if i had a choice i would take the tea) however, some things nature cannot overcome on its own, or it can only do so very, very rarely, things like HIV, AIDS, cancer, malaria etc... all these things need scientific help from drugs which have very little if any basis in nature. Some will require genetic modification and other controversial treatments. But we have to face facts, if it helps someone live a better life, it helps them live longer, regardless of what they do with their extra life, we should provide it. (unless of course they are going to kill people etc.. and need drugs to be able to do so).It is not up to us to decide who lives and dies, when someone dies or how. As a human race we should band together, against discomfort, pain and poor health. join our hearts, minds, brains and bodies and unite in a common cause to beat infection, disease etc... Now im not saying we should develop immortality, i still think the human body is quite capable of death without infection or disease in the same way a car will stop working without interference when it begins to rust and wear out, but we should help those in need with whatever means we have provided they want the helpIm not sure where the " to lose 100 to save 300 would be nice" comes from, if you are referencing my post then i can say it wasnt my intention to suggest that. I was trying to give example data to show how the vaccine is safer than the virus.But if you werent referencing me and its a new statement then it is a tough one to discuss. If you are the poor farmer with little scientific knowledge and a poor gene pool then survival of the fittest tells me i should forsake you and choose someone more "useful" to the human race, but in your eyes everyone should have an equal chance.If you are however the intelligent scientist you would argue that intelligence, good genes etc.. are more important to the human race which, scientifically they are. But does that mean we have to leave behind our morals?I would argue not. This comes down to the animal experiment debate too, is it fair to torture 100 apes to save 1 million humans? As a human you could say certainly. But as an ape being tortured you would beg and plead for mercy... The argument is largely subjective.My personal opinion: I dont know. I simply dont.

For a custom CSS formatting you dont even need any skills apart from CSS and HTML. Just view the source of the forums HTML, identify the tags you want to change (for example i expect the forum is styled by DIVs for different areas like the post area, the member avatar div etc...) and apply formatting and save.I must admit i havent tried it but meh...

at first i hated the theme, i truly did. But it is growing on me. It provides the user with an easy to read interface. The black on grey theme of the posts is easy on the eye as opposed to black on white etc... I am in the UK, also with talktalk (since they bought my old ISP, Tiscali) and have no problems at all. I dont see the need for any database defragging as to me the forum runs, searches and loads fine. It is a HUGE forum so some delay is expected but in all honesty i dont find it any slower than other sites.Why dont you apply your own CSS to the site through Firefox? If it bothers you that much just download the CSS used here, edit it and apply in firefox options as a custom CSS. Problem solved.It requires work but not nearly as much work as a new skin needs.

Well, i dont trust my own body to sustain me in a comfortable state without the medicine (which i only take when needed, not on a regular basis) because my body has a fault. I dont know all the facts about asthma works but i know that the muscles in my throat almost "panic" and stiffen up, imagine giving your arm an electric shock. It goes completely stiff and the muscles contracting have the side effect of swelling. If that happens in a muscular tube such as the throat then the space in the tube decreases, hindering air flow. That's just a defect my body has. Perhaps the medicine is slowly killing me, but it's still giving me a longer life than i wouldve had without it and a much more comfortable experience. From my understanding it isnt doing me any harm but as you have suggested or hinted at, i dont actually know what is in it and the effects on the body, all i know is it relieves symptoms, the drug companies can easily lie, and probably do, but it's still better than not having it in my case. Other cases may be different. I have heard of someone being diagnosed with diabetes, before the diagnosis they were fine, but shortly after treatment begun they became blind along with other side effects. I do believe that in some cases the treatment is worse than the ailment. But at the same time one cant condemn science for trying to solve defects in the human body. Perhaps healthy people taking medicine is a bad idea. I personally would only take medicine to prevent or cure something and only if the effects were supported by evidence. As for how the medicine has changed my life... It's hard to say, because as you mentioned i havent been without it except when i was very young. Back when i was a baby, probably less than a year old i obviously didnt have the medicine as the doctors basically told my mum it wasnt asthma. Apparently i had breathing difficulties and coughing fits and not sleeping etc... and eventually i had an attack where my lips went blue etc... from lack of oxygen in my blood. So it is safe to assume that without the medicine that the hospital gave me, and subsequently i was prescribed, i would be dead. Now, although I am not afraid of death and i believe my spirit (i) would live on it would be a waste. My family would be distraught, and who knows, perhaps in the future i will save a life, or rescue someone, or even just change someones life for the better, and if i had not been given treatment and drugs that would never have happened. It's like being shown the most amazing thing in the world and then being whisked away before you get a chance to experience it. With the vaccine the results are largely unpredictable, but those being offered it have a higher chance of mortality or great discomfort, danger, stress and worry if they caught the flu, perhaps the health conditions also give them a higher chance of vaccine death but at the end of the day it is all chance. If i gave you two numbers and one of them had a 1% chance of winning the lottery, and the other had a 10% chance, which would you choose? its obvious. Even though it is all chance it is more sensible to choose the option which favours your well being. There is no 0.00% chance in the flu. There is a 0.4% chance of death from the flu or a 0.001% chance of dying from the vaccine. Im going with the vaccine!! And the same goes for most medicines. All medicines that simply treat, rather than cure, are based on chance. A small chance of it getting worse, and usually a much larger chance of it helping you. Faced with the odds you simply have to go with the better chance. I am sorry to hear about your sister, and i truly hope for all involved that she gets better soon.

Try saving files to, and reading them from the problem drive will you are inside the linux ISOIf you find no errors with disk checking tests, and you are able to read/write without any errors then you may need to try re-installing the system, just to see.the CRC does point to a hardware failure but i think before you do anything drastic like buy a new drive or send yours off for weeks for repairs its worth spending 45 minutes installing linux again

I simply stated that your post suggested medicine was a bad thing, and given the situation of a patient with 100% chance of death in the very near future that, based on your argument, you would say that medicine should not be given to avoid death.Life is an experience, nothing more nothing less. Anything that can extend that experience should be used. The only issue of if/when to prescribe medicine is, in my eyes, down to the patient or if there is insufficient medicine to go around then one must decide who to give it to.A good example is organ replacements. Should an alcoholic be given a new liver, if he/she is only going to drink even more alcohol and trash that liver too? Or should it instead go to someone who was born with a natural liver defect and who will not abuse it? I think the answer is fairly clear, and i think we all agree on it. But to say an alcoholic, or anyone else, should not be given that second chance would be immoral. I dont know if that's what you are saying or not.But based on the flu vaccine i think everyone should be offered it, stocks permitting. And if the individual wants to decline it then that is their right. But based on the scientific evidence (and the original topic before we both took it elsewhere) the vaccine is safer than the virus itself.All facts support that.

I agree with you that life is more than metabolism, i also agree that drugs are big business and the trade is often considered, perhaps rightly, as being evil or immoral. However, let me go back to my asthma, i have a pump which contains a medicine known as "salbutamol" feel free to look it up if you need to put any further imaginary holes in my posts... Imagine i have my hands around your throat and i am sitting on your chest. Try breathing. Fun eh? well that's what an asthma episode is. (i wont call it an attack as i class an attack as being where my pump has no effect on the asthma and i require a much, much stronger dose of steroids to relax my throat muscles.) Now, you may well claim that you dont trust drugs, and sure the medicine probably isnt as good for me as a carrot. But, without the medicine i would be dead now. As a baby i had a severe attack and the doctor told my mum to rush me to hospital, there wasnt time to wait for an ambulance to arrive and take me (ambulances do not carry "nebulizers" (sp) which is what i need when i have an attack) supplying me oxygen may not have helped that much either as the oxygen cant get into my lungs but i digress...) based on this the medicine is a very, very good thing. It saved my life and it frequently saves me hours, if not days of discomfort. A regular attack may not kill me now without the medicine, if it didnt exist i could probably survive one now but it would means hours and hours of severe breathing difficulty followed by many more hours of coughing fits and general discomfort in my chest. Can you now tell me that salbutamol is a bad thing?I am not afraid of death, i believe in an afterlife in which i will be free of all physical bounds. However, that doesnt mean i am in any hurry to leave those i love. To leave the world in which i am happy, to leave a place where i have only experienced such a tiny, tiny, tiny percentage of life. To die is not to end, but it it does mean leaving behind any hope of doing those things you dream of. And I am not ready. Your post indicates you would gladly look a cancer sufferer's wife and child in the eye and tell them that they have to die, even though there are drugs to cure the patient you would tell them that you arent going to. That the drugs are bad, and that death is welcome.And that, is disgraceful.

Can i ask how payment would be made for the puppies? Credit card, cash on collection etc...?

well that was full of twaddle, can we start the reasonable discussion yet? Sorry, infect you with what exactly? Oh you mean that inactive flu virus I'm carrying? Why yes, i will quarantine myself so that a dead virus cant infect you, on the plus side the live virus that is on the trains, buses, door handles and that has just been sneezed on your face, cant get me, because im in quarantine. Ah i see, i have asthma (which can give me a risk of breathing complications with the flu, hence i am offered the seasonal flue vaccine here in the UK), and I, *I* am the stupid one for wanting to have a proven vaccine injected into my flesh, you however, are the very clever, intelligent and sensible person by believing that "The Creator" who i presume is "god" has made you, specifically you, so immortal, so indestructible that you don't need a vaccine? Because you are, of course, special. Either that or you intend on smashing the virus into a gelatinous goo with your crucifix. Well good luck with that. I'll be in the doctors office getting vaccinated and you can go out killing the virus with your little bit of cross shaped wood and/or metal. Smart move... (oh, and if you think god created everything then who do you think created the flu virus? It certainly wasn't me, or my cat...) While i disagree with the way the virus is harvested from a moral standpoint i cant confirm or deny this is where the ingredients come from. So i cant comment on that. As for the toxicity of the ingredients perhaps you are correct, but then think of the toxins you are exposed to every day. your computer contains arsenic, mercury, lead etc... Your car runs from fuel which is a poison, gives off toxic and very dangerous fumes which then go all over your food, not to mention fertilizers and pesticides (and don't give me that "organic" crap, it's fed the same water as everything else and grown in fields next to fields where pesticides are used, the water table and cycle gives your organic veg a nice tinge of poison. Then there's the radiation of every day life... Oh and the fact that organic food is regularly x-rayed to the extent it kills all living things. You probably glow in the dark at this rate.... now, while I don't doubt the lethality of any of the poisons included in the vaccine what I do doubt is how toxic they are in the form and dosage given. One website suggest the h1n1 world deaths stood at 5000 as of late October this year. Wikipedia suggests it is over 8000 at the current time. Let's get an average of 6-7000 so far. Now, the known deaths from the vaccine itself stand at only a few hundred i think. I cant find an exact figure but shall we say 300? Now, i know that over 1m doses have been given in the UK, of that i know of 1 confirmed death linked to a possible dodgy batch of the vaccine, let's say, just to help your argument that half of those 300, speculative world wide deaths happened in the UK as a direct result of the jab, 150/1000000=0.015% of those vaccinated died.... Now, if we factor in a guess that another 5 million doses have been given world wide, which really, given the fact that the uk has given 1m is conservative as the us has easilly given a few million and the rest of Europe has easily met, if not exceeded that amount. Factor in the guestimated 300 deaths = 0.006% of those vaccinated died. Given that i expect the vaccination numbers to be well over 5m and the deaths to about 2-400 (if that, its probably more like < 200) your argument is invalid. I quote: The article is here: http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/ So, the vaccine, if my numbers are even within 50% of their true values (in fact my calculations show that if only 500,000 people were vaccinated and 600 of those died, which i think you'll agree is a massive exaggeration, that's only 0.12% death rate. The virus itself is 0.4%....) then the flue virus is VASTLY more dangerous than the vaccination itself. Argument flawed. In fact, to obtain a 0.4% death rate based on the figures of 5m vaccinations the deaths so far would need to be 20,000. They are not. They are much less than 1000, i expect around 100-200 world wide) So, while the vaccine may not be good for me, given the fact i am in an "at risk" group, in the prime age group for infection (i am 20) and work in a school where swine flu has been confirmed (and we all know schools spread infections better than anywhere else except hospitals) i think my chances of dying from the flu vs my chances of dying from the vaccine suggest strongly i SHOULD be having the jab. And indeed i will when offered. Do you have a comeback to this? something that makes sense preferably... Oh, and might i add that i am not a disbeliever in powers higher than ourselves. I do not believe in anything that you would call "god", in fact you wrongly call them many other things in an attempt to brainwash the early pagans into joining your false religion, despite my belief in the meta-physical i would not, and will not rely on my beliefs to protect me from a virus. That will not work, no matter what. so do not preach to me about how mighty your god(s) are. They are not as mighty as the virus which will kill many on this planet. They are not as mighty as the sharp prick of a needle, nor as mighty as medicines to relieve the symptoms. Let's keep this discussion to scientific facts as we are dealing with a scientific subject. Not a religious one. If i have mis-understood your final paragraph then that is my fault. But referring to the creator and capitalizing the initials of the words leads me to think you are a Christian, or possibly another member of an orthodox religion. hang on a second, what's that? More evidence on the safety of the job, yes, correct! See this BBC news article http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/8381597.stm It is actually about showing facts with images, not the flu vaccine, however, the second graphic asks how much thimerosal is in the flu jab, thimerosal is a preservative containing mercury. The graphic clearly shows than a fillet of salmon has more of this preservative in it than the flu jab. Hence salmon is more mercuric than the flu jab. A tin of tuna contains twice as much thimerosal as the flu jab. I thank you. Another edit comes this way... How exactly can the vaccinated spread the virus? Can you give me a link to a trust-able source on this matter? The virus that is infected is dead. It cannot spread, mutate or infect anyone. Of course, if you can show me evidence that i am wrong i will gladly accept it as truth.

It all depends how you define "winning" and "success" and on the circumstances. If you are running down a hill away from a mudslide then winning really is everything!It also comes down to the individual and how they view winning. For example, not winning something doesnt affect me. I am comfortable enough in myself, my abilities and who i am to accept that there are people out there better at things than me. That's just how it is. So what?!But then there are the more insecure types... Those that feel if they dont win they are inferior. These people arent fighting against the other people in a competition, they are fighting against themselves, constantly putting themselves down, comparing themselves to other people, and despite outward appearances and actions they are often not confident, have low self esteem and generally dislike their current selves. A good example is someone who takes steroids to get "stronger" and always laughs at people smaller than them. They will tell you that winning is everything, and to them it is because it is a sort of certification. If they win a race they can convince themselves "yes, i AM better than these little people" the same applies to any form of competition, be it sporting or not, they have to compare themselves to feel good. They try to show themselves as strong, but they are weak. weak in mind, heart and spirit.I think part of the "winning isnt everything" quote comes from the fact that people who, for example, fail a job interview, are quite upset and need to find comfort in something by telling themselves it doesnt matter. Perhaps they are right, perhaps they will find a better job that otherwise they wouldnt have got. But then perhaps they are wrong, perhaps that job *was* perfect for them, and they just werent good enough.

It does seem like google *was* offering a ?30 adwords voucher, which will "buy" you ?30 worth of google advertising, presumably when you spend a certain amount. However the offer has expired now it seems.I cant say if the message you got was real or fake. Just remember to always check the site address begins with "google" or is in the format subsite.google.com or google.com/subsite. If in doubt then search the internet and see if you can find a reference to the offer on a reputable, trustable site. If not, and it is a really good deal then actually phone, or email, google via an official google page, NOT the page offering the deal, but another, official google page, and send them the link and ask them to validate it. Remember that the only details they need are the details on the card you wish to use to pay with and your name and address/contact details. They do not need, and will never ask for, your password for any account or any PIN numbers or numbers that are not on the credit card itself. So if they ask for a pin number then forget it!(some services might ask for a username, i think the Xisto billing service asks for your T17 username, or perhaps another site im thinking of.... usernames are generally ok, but be careful and never give them a password. Same goes for setting up accounts for things like internet and mobile phones, they often ask you to set a password over the phone or in-store. I always refuse and ask them for a website i can do it on myself. Although i have *some* trust in them out of principal i will not let them know my password.)

Sounds like a scam to me. Did this come from the OFFICIAL google website?And why do you need a credit card? Are they saying they will put money straight into your account, or that you nee dto buy google adword/sense and they will give you ?30 credit when you do?

I too was sceptical, but there are no cons here, well except the occasional spam bot that gets in, but they soon get fud into the crusher.Best advice is simple, every post you make, make sure it has good content. The credit system is pretty complex and it doesnt give you credits based on post length, it's much smarter than that!as FouGilang said you need to register with Xisto, the parent of T17, before you start getting credits, so do that ASAP and you'll have no problems.You'll also find you get addicted to T17... I have more than enough cash from here to pay for my hosting and yet i'm still here, and have been for over 3 years... Though i get a lot of pleasure from reporting spammers Perhaps that's why i'm still here... Have fun

There are two ways for a malicious hackers (crackers IMHO are those that crack passwords and encryption, not hack into systems) to attack and control a system. One is through the user. I could ask for your user/pass in a special way that persuades you to hand it over, or i can get you to download a malicious program that lets me in.The other option is to get in through a vulnerability in the OS itself, windows is particularly vulnerable to having security holes in it, some are very serious. these can be in many different forms, perhaps a default password that is well known (as in the case of the apple Iphone worms), buffer overflow exploits (sending a program so much data it spills over into another "section" of RAM and can be executed as a whole separate program) or other holes such as lack of validation of data etc....Now, if we look at linux the base of the system, and the most vital part, the kernel is well coded, there are very few vulnerabilities known in the kernel itself, those that are are very quickly patched by the community of users so as we stand today it is very stable and safe. so that leaves us with downloaded programs and their faults. In theory any program you download, even on linux, can have various holes. Linux overcomes this with permissions and a stable base kernel. Let's say i download a torrent program, there is a huge hole in it that will let a hacker get into my system and run commands. Bad times, however, even if the hacker manages to get into my system he cant do much, he cant install stuff, he cant read or write to the system areas, including the kernel. Virtually all he can do is type up word documents and save them. Even if he got in, then manually wrote a virus to delete all my stuff and then tried to run the virus it will still be constrained by the permissions. Sure, it could delete MY documents and files, but it couldnt affect the system at all.So there's little reason for the virus, hence no-one bothers to create it.That's on the assumption that they can actually get in to my system, which in itself is very difficult with linux, if not impossible.Now, on a windows system the same example could be very, very bad... Let's say there is no security software on either operating system. Now, the hacker gets into my torrent program on windows, from there he has access to everything... You know how you can install, uninstall, delete, make and run files and programs, well so can he... He can delete your windows folder with just one command:cd WINDOWSdel *.*Uhoh.... There goes windows. And it doesnt end there, there are various weaknesses in the windows system that lets them run keyloggers etc... where on linux you would probably need to enter the admins password.Linux doesnt let you run as ROOT (admin) by default, you have to specifically tell it to make you root, and only root can change the system, you, as a user cannot, which is why it is so secure. Without this perhaps linux would be much less secure, only with windows Vista has MS caught up by using the UAC, user account control, which asks for your permission to do certain things, but it's so annoying everyone just disables it...

I see a fatal flaw in this. It isnt a KB, its just a forum topic and as such it will eventually slip through to the bottom of the lists as all forum posts do, and when it gets there its useless.Now, it could be stickied, but then people dont really read stickies, and lets face it, how many new members read the T17 Readme? I dunno, it seems like a wasted effort, but then it isnt my effort thats being used so feel free to use your own time in any way you see fit!

ah interesting... The salt field is basically a number that can be fed into the md5 command to make the string different (i think) the pass_hash should in theory be the password itself. Can you try the other method i said of creating a new user and copy both the converge_pass_hash, and converge_pass_salt into the relevant fields. eg:table:usersusername|converge_pass_hash|converge_pass_salt|____________________________________________admin......|sdgdfhfh4rtqw5643w|34623fg.................| //this is the admin account with the mystery passworduser1.......|sdgdfhfhtteetet643w|34523fg.................|user2.......|sdgdfhfh4r3444643w|31623fhgf...............|special.....|edhgh53t33t453234|123454hjy...............| //copy the password hash and salt values from here, up to the admin account