shiv 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2006 The "Aero" look for Windows Vista will be available only for users with genuine copies of the windows os..users need to go through the genuine copy test online to acquire the aero look. "Aero" includes translucent windows, animated flipping between open programs, and icons that show thumbnails of opened files. This was stated in "Windows Vista Guide" a document that was briefly posted in its website and then pulled by Microsoft for whatever reason.Windows Genuine Advantage (WGA)- Microsoft's anti-piracy program checks for genuine Windows running in the user's PC so for was used for validating use of Microsoft's Download Center and for security updates from Windows Update security patch service. Microsoft is now extending the strategy to even acquire the aero look unique to Vista which I would say is a part of the os..very soon Microsoft would want us to download the whole OS after entering a 'ticket'?!full story Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AdityaKar 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2006 Yes it seems thats what Microsoft will do in the future. But despite all their efforts, those determined to sell pirated copies find out some way or the other to provide all the features of the original version without having to download anything from manufacturer's site, thus bypassing all their efforts to curb piracy. I feel, these measures only create problems for genuine users, as did the controversial Product Activation feature which was introduced with WindowsXP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quatrux 4 Report post Posted April 14, 2006 (edited) Let them, the less pirated versions of Windows, the more people will start using Alternative Operating systems which are free, moreover, the less Windows users, the less income for Windows and Companies which create commercial software for It and etc.. So I don't think it will be so unPirated as was said above in the Post. And I don't think a lot at the start will change to Vista, due to XP can do a lot and takes less resources, the same was when XP appeared, only after some time a lot of people started using it. Edited April 14, 2006 by Quatrux (see edit history) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
finaldesign1405241487 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2006 Just another pointless try to protect software that's really not worth protecting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pyost 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2006 users need to go through the genuine copy test online to acquire the aero look. Â This is such a bad move. Because, as much as we are advance, there are so many people that don't (or can't) have the Internet. So what will they do? They will probably have to by pirated copies, which will surely have everything. It's quite hard to believe that the Russians won't be able to make a Windows Vista copy with everything available in the real version. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xboxrulz1405241485 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2006 Funny thing is that people already circumvent the WGA system, it's easy now to get the Aero feature.xboxrulz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kaputnik 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2006 Microsoft is automatically assuming that people are automatically/ by default going to be online. It really hasn't thought about users who may not wish to go online for whatever reasons. Supposing they do actually purchase the original copy, they'd want to have the complete features, and, Microsoft would have to provide for what users are paying for. However, if the downloadable features are only 'addon' features that are available online, then having only oiginal copy users accessing these is a 'now regular' feature of the Windows Download center. Thre is no way that Microsoft will get off with providing some users (those able to access the internet) with full features and those not acccessing the internet with features (disabled or unavailable), so long as both sections of the purchasing ustomers are paying the same price. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hraefn 0 Report post Posted April 15, 2006 I have no problem with Microsoft trying to protect their software with whatever means they have available (however we may disagree with those methods), but I don't like the idea that a software I may plan to purchase would have its (key) features available only as an add-on download. What's the point of buying software that's basically incomplete? Might as well tag it as shareware if that's how they want to run things, and have Vista available as a trial mode with the full features of the OS available after purchase. =^^=Truth to tell, I was kind of expecting some sort of corporate Nazism from Microsoft regarding their latest OS, but even I was surprised with how stupid the collective brains of such a software giant could be. This could hardly be called a wise move — in fact, it's probably more likely to turn off potential customers looking to buy the real thing than prevent software pirates from pirating Vista. After all, don't software pirates already worship Bill Gates? =^^= Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abhiram 0 Report post Posted April 15, 2006 Well, that's for sure. This thing is going to piss off a lot of loyal customers of Microsoft and probably won't affect the people who use pirated stuff. The pirates obviously will look at this like a new challenge and will definitely be able to crack it. Someone always does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nightfox1405241487 0 Report post Posted April 15, 2006 What's the point of buying software that's basically incomplete?  Windows is already incomplete. That's why I'm sticking to Windows XP and Linux. I don't want 72 million versions of one OS. I want ONE! I also don't want to pay $200 for basically "buggy" software. Again, another reason why I'm migrating over to Linux as much as possible.  Another thing about Vista that is a load of garbage is the security. It wants PERMISSION to DELETE a file!!! I don't know why Microsoft just doesn't "copy" the Linux structure and split it up like this:  Administrator -> FULL computer usage; can do anything Regular User -> Can't access all the important stuff; can't modify system files  Boom, there ya go. Windows = Virus free or less.  Also, Vista is demanding. You need like a $3,000 comp just to run EVERYTHING correctly. I don't know about you guys, but I DON'T want to buy a new computer just so I can run another piece of software. It makes no sense to me.  [N]F Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellFire121 0 Report post Posted April 15, 2006 I think microsoft is overprotecting their software, why have an online verification system when you could have something else. It's rediculous. Like that time I had bought a valid windows xp copy and tried to validate it online, it worked the first time but then around a month after when i needed to download a program, it said i had to validate again, i tried and it said my key was already validated. Now that is definately overprotecting their software.Like someone said before, it isn't even that good, it is just popular.One day I think windows will fall and the open source oses will be way more popular-HellFire Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evought 0 Report post Posted April 15, 2006 Let them, the less pirated versions of Windows, the more people will start using Alternative Operating systems which are free, moreover, the less Windows users, the less income for Windows and Companies which create commercial software for It and etc.. So I don't think it will be so unPirated as was said above in the Post. And I don't think a lot at the start will change to Vista, due to XP can do a lot and takes less resources, the same was when XP appeared, only after some time a lot of people started using it. Agreed. They are talking about protecting features that Gnome and OS X, Windowmaker (X11 window manager), etc. have had for years now. Heck I remember that being avaliable in NextStep in the early '90's and in '98 or so, I had them under Linux. The underlying problem is that have set up a market requirement to have Windows and charge much too much for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xboxrulz1405241485 0 Report post Posted April 15, 2006 Overdoing anything is not good for you. Even overeating = obesity, overprotection = loss of customer = Windows is now screwed for life.xboxrulz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moonwitch1405241479 0 Report post Posted April 15, 2006 The funny thing is - I used to use legal Windows copies. Yes, you read that right - used to. Why? Because I felt it was the right thing to do. (Mind you this was back in the day of Win 3.11 etc) Honestly, I have found it useless, it doesn't provide better features or as Microsoft likes to put it - enhanced security. That is all BS, why? Because they're "Validation" uses ActiveX - one of the first things I disable in Windows because of the gaping security hole. Why would I run a legal windows? For the updates? Heck, some of the updates have killed my computer - forcing me to reinstall. Yes, I update my windows, but only the bare necessities. Usually I disable a heap of stuff. Their "excellent" method of Genuine Checks is a laugh, anyone with some common sense can bypass it. But aside from that, who in a right mind will allow his/her computer to have a constant watchful (HA) eye on its software? Soon, we'll see Windows providing us with those wonderfully detailed errors (sadly that is sarcasm - or hopefullness LOL) when we install software such as the Gimp, Blender 3d or anything that is OpenSource. I mean, if they can see our windows key, then it's not very much harder to detect installed software, browser cookies, history, chat logs etc etc. I ain't keen on all of that. On the topic of Aero look only being available for download - nice move there. The "new and improved special look" was the main feature of the new windows - for not tech savvy users that is, tech savvy users know to steer clear of Vista. I see no reason to try Vista. Oh, I have a 64bit CPU, so I should use or Win Xp Pro 64 or one of the "bigger" versions of Vista. (probably costing 300 or so for a system that still will not utilize the full power of my cpu, while Linux - FREE - does exactly that) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xboxrulz1405241485 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2006 truely said moonwitch, but do you still use Windows or have you completely moved away from Windows to Linux or other free operating systems?xboxrulz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites