OpaQue 15 Report post Posted November 1, 2004 I used the MSN search today and here are the things I liked to point out.MSN search does not seem to give high preference to domain names while most of the other search engines do. For eg. Searching for a non-english keyword Xisto should have resulted in Xisto.com in the first place but instead more preference was given to another websites which were linking to Xisto.This could had been fine with some other keywords which had some meaning in english language, however this point was like one of the most downside of msn. Because, most of the msn searches are triggered by the web browser itself ( internet explorer ) and many a times, mistyped domain names or keywords should be searched for and corresponding domain names should be returned.This also has negative effects. There are many domain names which correspond to commonly used search keywords. Like free web hosting, I think there are more than 50 sites whose domains have these words in it. But, in such cases msn can do an advanced filtering to see which domain actually has a lot of info regarding the keywords and it can return the results.Second flaw, The search results are not sorted in page numbers so if you are going to find search more and more pages, you will have to rely on the Back and Next search links. That is rather crappy.Third, It takes a very long time before your site appears in MSN search. I really hate this fact. Google includes any site with in a week and starts showing its indexed contect within a month or two. While most of the search engines including msn take about 6-7 months. I dont know. wtf takes them such a long time. I hope the new msn search will take pretty less time to index sites.Also, the web site description returned by msn search is simply extracted from the title tags which may be good in some cases but most of the people ( when using frontpage ) forget to put that . And I saw some pages with descriptions of no more than 3 words. While the best way for extracting description would be get the highest keyword which occurs throughout the page and then extract a text of about 100 words which includes that keyword. I had used this method when I had created a search engine in perl ( a text file driven Search :-). MSN search definately requires a lot of improvement.Please post your suggestions and comments . ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darren1405241470 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2004 I think MSN concentrate to much on advertising. They have copied google by putting the sponsored links on the side (or did google copy MSN?) which is ok i don't mind that, but then they have some of the same links in the main search. I agree that some serious improvment is needed. One of the only things I do like about MSN search is that they have taken out the necessity of going to more than one page to search a range of things like encyclopedia, dictionary or just the web. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
r3d1405241470 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2004 about the extracted results from title. google also have this, but it's not a bug to google. its a wierd features. and about key words any search engine have this failure but it's not thier fault, may be sometimes faulty. but it is becuase of unprofessional web masters that to enthusiasm to gain visitors Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bigyan 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2004 Like most other MS products, this damn thing also SUCKS.As rightly pointed out by OpaQue, it take them >=6 months to add new site to their list of sites. I had submitted my site 7 months back ; and now atlast, they have included my site in their searches ........... but by now my host "anyxhost.com" went out of bussiness ................ so my site is of no use now.Instead of trying to copy GOOGLE, they should try to improve the internal searching features of Windows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lhunath 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2004 Who cares? Is there anybody who actually uses MSN Search? Everybody knows Google is far more superiour. Â MSN Search pollutes the web, they use far too agressive ways of spreading it around, like including it in their MSN Messenger, making things install the MSN Search Bar by default; making it search with it when you type something in the IE Address Bar, and it's absolutely unaffordable to have a search engine like that, and put Ads on it the way they do. Esp the popups etc. MSN is the purest evil ever to be spawned by a big company, like Microsoft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bigyan 0 Report post Posted November 3, 2004 Yeah lhunath, The obtrusive way MSN advertises is really bad. Worst of all is the fact that it is installed as default with MS OS. As I've told earlier, MS really SUCKS. Have any one of you ever seen a good MS product ? (if so please let me know and I'll tell you what sucks about it). It's time that we stop being fooled by Billy and his Silly products. Bye, Bigyan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lhunath 0 Report post Posted November 3, 2004 Windows Server 2003 Enterprise Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bigyan 0 Report post Posted November 14, 2004 Never had a chance of trying out WIN 2003 SERVER, my machine is too slow for it. However I'll definitely try it out and post my experiances soon.Bye,Bigyan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chilipie 0 Report post Posted November 15, 2004 Yeah lhunath, Have any one of you ever seen a good MS product ? (if so please let me know and I'll tell you what sucks about it). <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Notepad. Nice and simple, even Microsoft didn't go wrong on that one . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
friso 0 Report post Posted November 24, 2004 Like most other MS products, this damn thing also SUCKS. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i agree Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vietpost 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2004 You said MS is bad, but I have a question: what is your current OS and internet browser ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deathviewer 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2004 Microsoft is too worried about making money for bill gates and not worring enough about how much yahoo and aol are walking all over them. This is probly why msn took so long to upgrade it's email, it was waiting to see how much yahoo would upgrade. and then with it's multi-billion $$ it bought more servers and hosted more storage space. but i hafta agree that msn has the best instant messaging program, although i'd rather use yahoo (it allows you to talk to pplz that u don't have on ur buddie list) or mirc, it cuts down on spam and is extremely simple to use. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bigyan 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2004 Hi vietpost,My OS (at the time of writing) is Fedora Core I. However I also have Solaris in my machine and also Win2000.Win 2000 is needed for synchronizing my PDA with my computer and the damn software doesn't have a Linux version.My browser is obviously Mozilla.Bye,Bigyan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-=Wrighty=- 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2004 Simply, it is not set out nicely enough. MSN Search does not have as many websites stored in its database. As stated earlier, the main websites do not come first, although it does allow smaller sites to get top of the list. Also, Opaque, could I please see your perl search engine? I'd like to see what it was like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian1405241474 0 Report post Posted December 23, 2004 I don't like anything to do with M$N (I do use AIM and M$N for IM, only because I have a few friends who only use M$N, but I prefer AIM) or Mico$oft. I also don't use M$N search engine because I use Google instead. I love Google. My favorite thing about Google is how simple it's pages are. They don't load a bunch of other images and stuff so they load a lot faster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
