New Name For Trap17 [resolved] Changing the domain name Trap17.com

[OpaQue 15]

Hello All,

 

We are planning to change name of Xisto to newSutra. Please tell me, what do you think of this new name - newSutra.com knowledgeSutra.com

Sūtra (Sanskrit: सूत्र sūtra, Devanagari: सूत्र, Pāli: sutta), literally means a thread or line that holds things together, and more metaphorically refers to an aphorism (or line, rule, formula), or a collection of such aphorisms in the form of a manual. It is derived from the verbal root siv-, meaning to sew (these words, including Latin suere and English to sew, all ultimately deriving from PIE *siH-/syuH- 'to sew').

This new site will be completely geared for forum discussion.

 

Thank you,

 

shree

[Ridwan sameer 0]

Hmmm i think Xisto is more catchyI dont know sutra is kind of a turn off?

[mahesh2k 0]

Hmmm i think Xisto is more catchy
I dont know sutra is kind of a turn off?

Well ridwan_sameer,

if (KamaSūtra =turn on)
then any-other-sutra= turn off;

J/K :angel:

sorry opaque, i don't like this name. Sounds desi to me and many active members here will hardly get this for years. Besides you've memories with old name, why you want to change that ? >_<

Maybe you can make that newsutra.com as promotional place (digg/redit) style only for Xisto users ? by restricting users on that site to only trap or xisto family, site can be a good place to promote Xisto/xisto member sites. or whatever these complaining users of Xisto were thinking about can suggest you about how that place should be etc.

[H.O.D 0]

I agree with mahesh. The name sounds desi and wouldn't appeal to many members around the world. I know some people here aren't very attracted to the name Xisto, but I wouldn't recommend changing it now because it's become very popular and changing it now could lose us a lot of new members. Just my opinion tho

[Ridwan sameer 0]

Hmm the fact that it was desi was the main reason i dis approved, i just didnt say it because i thought i would be being racially biased :angel:But you have to face the truth,not alot of americans, brits, etc.... wont be that intrested in joining a site like that, again no offenceHOWever, as mahesh said, it could be used for something else, a Digg site would be one of the option

[rob86 2]

I don't object to a non-english word being in the domain, in fact it'd be kind of interesting for a change, but I dare say that at least most English speakers are going to relate that particular one to the sexual parts of 'Kama Sutra' which is really not what you want people to think the site is about. I don't think too many people in my part of the world at least are aware that the word Sutra even means anything outside of "Exotic Sex Tips!". Just looking on google for Sutra shows a bunch of sex positions, despite what your harmless definition would imply. That's what will show up when people search for the site. Might scare some people away..

[Ridwan sameer 0]

Yeah i agree with robAlso the desi like tune is definitely a turn off, trust mealso rob i didnt know sutra meant that 0.oweird huh....So Opaque are you bent on doing this, or is there some hope that we can remain with this awesome nameRemember, Xisto has alot of memories for you at least, i remember that post you posted about how you came up with the nameAn asian never forgets :angel:

[anwiii 17]

An asian never forgets

hey, i am CAUC asian....does that count? :angel: anyway, i don't know about any new name change. i kinda like the name and sorta partial to the history here. what would happen to trap if we convert the forums to somewhere else? if we are definately planning a name change though, i have no problem with the name. i like it but you posted it publicly now and it could be gone soon if you haven't already registered it.

if you can tell us more about your plan for a new website and trap, maybe we can give some better input or suggestions to help with whatever your thoughts are.

[Soviet Rathe 1]

Nein....I agree with anwiii, Xisto has history and if you change the trusted name of Xisto you are basically starting from rock bottom imo, because new name = new site = starting over.plus, think about SEO, I don't know if you know this but it will take a while for search engines to re-index all the content... believe me it's a BAD idea!newSutra? ehhh..... when I first saw it I didn't take a good look at the spelling and thought it was Surta.... like the surta mattress lol then again I usually don't pay attention :angel:

Edited March 16, 2010 by Soviet Rathe (see edit history)

[H.O.D 0]

it looks like most of the people who have responded so far are against the idea. I think the biggest loss will be for SEO. If the name is changed then it will be much harder for visitors to come in and that will affect our ad revenue and ultimately it affects all of us! Hmm it has such a deep link. So i think it is best if we leave the name as it is for now. Or is there some way where we could rename the forum but still ensure that all the old links are redirected to the new ones? If that could happen then the visitors will still find their way in and we get to use a brand new name!there isn't much to complain about the name Xisto. It is strange but also curious. There may be some people who will stay away from such names but most other people will come in out of curiosity and that works to our advantage. so i suggest please let us keep the old name itself.

[StvenWesley 0]

Newstura is a good name, but most of us are used to Xisto. And I don't know why you need to change the domain.I agree with Soviet Rathe. for SEO, it is not smart to change a history domain to a new one. You need to many things if you changed the domain. I think it is hard to make Newstrua as popular as Xisto. Maybe you are considering something more important,can you show that?

[Ridwan sameer 0]

Yeah, i totally forgot to speak about teh SEO part of itBuilding a proper search index from a new site will take a realy long time, also how do you plan to convert all teh posts etc.. to that domain, kinda risky, and we haev a versatile myCents system hereSO I hope i didnt burst your bubble, but teh new name looks like a no no for most of us

[OpaQue 15]

SEO is not a problem, I will put a 301 redirect.If anyone has read Xisto Story, you will notice that the name "Xisto" was coined by someone I knew and its not relevant to the discussion we do here. I see brilliant discussion and creative ideas flowing throughout this forum and the name we choose as our domain name must be relevant to us. Whatever discussion we do here is summarized as a Sutra like heading for each of our pages. This heading is a summary of the words used by the forum/discussion thread. Ideally, your title, description and top part of your web-page should be most relevant. This is something which we do for SEO. SEO says, keep the most relevant keywords on the top part of a page.This summary of words linked by the main title can be called a sutra. After all a sutra is an aphorism or an original continuous thought without flaw, Of minimal syllabary, unambiguous, pithy and comprehensive. I feel, this is exactly what we try achieve in our day-to-day conversations in this forum, we learn and understand from this forum seeking truth behind every topic and then we try to use this knowledge in future. Also, the word sutra sounds like SooTrue.The literary form of the sutra was designed for terseness and economy in writing and speaking achieved by expressing a great deal in just a few words. These texts were intended to be memorized by students in some of the formal methods of scriptural and scientific study, As each line is highly condensed. This is best way to memorize and then apply it to daily living.

[OpaQue 15]

True enoughBut some others spoke that sutra is also a more mature meaning in the english language?

Maybe we should have a poll? we will display both cons and pros, and then let the people vote

This thread is a poll :-) Yup, But I expect mature people to understand the word "sutra" and then think about the forums.

[Ridwan sameer 0]

True enoughBut some others spoke that sutra is also a more mature meaning in the english language?Maybe we should have a poll? we will display both cons and pros, and then let the people vote