Religious People Are Not Fair

[mandla 0]

Have you ever noticed that it a crime to speak badly against religion. not so much a federal or state crime but a moral crime. Funny tho we get abuse from relious people all the time.I have a friend who is Christian and every time i say something like I don't really think there is a gOd I get an earful bashing of how Im the devils tool, how I am evil and should not say that. They practically force you to believe or confess what they believe and yet if i said say god doesnt exists they would never do that. Why should Christian threaten us into being believers eg. If you say that it shows you are demon possesed. You are the devil's child if you do that. Why can they just say look i do not believe in what you saying cause to me god exists. and if you say prove his existence they get all angru and call you blasphemous. If things do not go right they always say you did not have faith. When danger is iminent your faith will multiply we all know that. the bible will say jesus says if you have faith the size of a mustard seed ahhhh well when tthings are terrible I think we all have bus loads of faith so how come things never work out then - Its cause did not have enuff faith.I guess right now I will be called a satanist who is possessed all because I dared to ask lol.Please be aware my post is for knowledge perpose not to look down uporn christianity or make you stop believing in GOD no. Im just try ask the questions others havent asked

[shadowx 0]

I agree with you completely. In my eyes christianity at first was a good thing, it showed people how to live their lives for the better and care for each other. Then someone wanted power, control and money, hence modern christianity was born.Chrstians are scared. Scared of their god, scared of their own religion and the rest of the world. What kind of religion is it when you have to fear your own god? Seriously.... Get over it.In my eyes a god should be something you look up to for guidance, example and help. If you do something morally wrong YOU should make it right. Dont just say sorry to god and think it is all over. Catholics are the worst. They can murder, rape, adulterate, it doesnt matter. Then they go to church, sit in a box and say im sorry and it's all over. These people are fools.The reason, IMHO, that christians preach so frikkin much is because they are scared. Their faith isnt strong enough so they feel that they must invoke a crowd to believe the same as them, to strengthen their faith.They will tell you it is to "save" you.... Yes... Save you from servitude, financial extortion and lies. Chrstians readily forget the wrongs they have done, their pope was a nazi (FACT) and most of them hate gays, even though one of the "rules" of christianity is to forgive... So forgive them for being gay and get over it fore the sake of jesus! Do you honestly think that jesus would stand there and say "you dirty gays" and then condemn them? No, Jesus would understand and simply ignore them. Even if he thought it was completely wrong he may say it once to them and leave them be. If their choice is hell then that is up to them. Jesus wasnt a fool (he wasnt real either, but im just pretending for the sake of argument).There is much hypocrisy in christianity, and until that hypocrisy, hate and lying is scrubbed out i will forever laugh at it as a religion. I hope that gives a little insight into the motives behind it. Im not accusing individuals of being bad, many are indeed good. However, as an organization the church has so much to answer for, murder, torture, rape, theft..... Hypocrisy of the highest order. But christians are all too willing to ignore that part of their history.

[truefusion 3]

This topic is an excellent example of hasty generalization and the by-products that can follow. If we were to request for the topic starter to count all the people mentioned in this topic using their hands, they would not require more than their index finger. From one person the topic starter is quick to say that "religious people," which encompasses everyone who is part of a religion, to say that they are not fair. However, in what way is the topic starter being fair to everyone by saying that religious people are not fair? By mentioning it was a Christian, is that supposed to limit what kind of groups you are speaking against?

 

And in case anyone is wondering: No, i am not trying to provide an excuse for the believer. However, we should analyze the current topic even further to remove all bias from it. The topic starter states that they told the believer "God doesn't exist." But it should be obvious that this is a simplified and watered down version of the actual discussion that occurred. What we can make out from what was posted is that the topic starter was the one that started the discussion with their friend, at least brought up or changed the subject. I do not know the whole details of the conversation, but the topic starter chooses to mostly point out what they didn't like their friend telling them.

 

By giving the example of the mustard seed analogy and speaking about the testing of faith, it implies that the conversation consisted more than just whether or not God exists. Rather, just like it is being done in the topic starter's post, it sounds like there may have been some striking down of Scripture or the core of Christianity within their conversation. It is not uncommon for others to vent to another things that were mentioned in the conversation that they had with another person.

 

Please be aware my post is for knowledge perpose not to look down uporn christianity or make you stop believing in GOD no. Im just try ask the questions others havent asked

What question did you ask us in your post? But i am certain that any question you ask i would have already heard.

[Zagubadu? 0]

Have you ever noticed that it a crime to speak badly against religion. not so much a federal or state crime but a moral crime. Funny tho we get abuse from relious people all the time.

I have a friend who is Christian and every time i say something like I don't really think there is a gOd I get an earful bashing of how Im the devils tool, how I am evil and should not say that. They practically force you to believe or confess what they believe and yet if i said say god doesnt exists they would never do that. Why should Christian threaten us into being believers eg. If you say that it shows you are demon possesed. You are the devil's child if you do that. Why can they just say look i do not believe in what you saying cause to me god exists. and if you say prove his existence they get all angru and call you blasphemous. If things do not go right they always say you did not have faith. When danger is iminent your faith will multiply we all know that. the bible will say jesus says if you have faith the size of a mustard seed ahhhh well when tthings are terrible I think we all have bus loads of faith so how come things never work out then - Its cause did not have enuff faith.

I guess right now I will be called a satanist who is possessed all because I dared to ask lol.

Please be aware my post is for knowledge perpose not to look down uporn christianity or make you stop believing in GOD no. Im just try ask the questions others havent asked

Doesn't really sound like a friend to me. I have quite a few friends who believe in god and they do not bash my disbelief in all the junk. I also have quite a few friends who agree with me. I don't like a lot of other peoples attitude towards atheist "Oh your going to burn in hell bla Blah BLAH" its just wasted words on me. As much as I don't like thinking about death the times I do saddens me. Just to have it end with nothing really makes me understand why people believe in all this bologna in the first place. The thought of dying and just rotting in the ground for some people is unbearable so someone started talking of heaven and god. First he was in the clouds. Well I've been up in the clouds ( airplane ) and I have no report of angels. I simply see it as this. There is too many facts supporting things like evolution and other science. So I just think the religion sitting next to science, well science is winning in my book. Sure there are some people that believe in evolution and God, I just think its a way to cope with death.

[dangerdan 0]

There is a very acute irony at play here. Religion frequently preaches inter-cultural tolerance but breeds zealotry and aggression. Virtually every war in history has some kind of causal basis in religion, whether its the tensions in the Middle East, ethnic cleansing in Bosnia or civil war in Africa. While religions teach peace, they cause war.

[knoppixusr 0]

Just as much as atheist's dislike other religions preaching to them. They are Hippocrates them selfs whom are just as guilty of preaching their atheist belief as other religions are guilty of preaching their beliefs. So get off your High Horse.

You can not use science to disprove God. There is no real way to prove 100% that the earth is billions of years old, yet you keep on preaching your propaganda and mixing it into scientific books so that everyone must believe it as a fact. Rubbish!

Compare it to looking at a car traveling past your house. To you that car has driven in a straight line since it came into your vision but that does not prove that the car was driving in a straight line for the last 40 miles. You just can't do that it's stupid. All the scientific evidence for the earth being billions of years old mean nothing to me. Why? because you weren't there when God create everything. Even if it looks 40 kabiliion years old , that still means nothing. It still could have been created in 7 days like the Bible says.

Edited February 5, 2010 by knoppixusr (see edit history)

[Baniboy 3]

One tip, don't lower yourself to their level. Just ignore the preachers. Don't get in a debate with people that don't agree on the simple rules you play on (logic, mostly). If they say you're going to end up in hell, just say your hell would be spending the eternity with religious people. And one thing, DON'T EVER, EVER, ASK FOR EVIDENCE.They already know they don't have evidence, you wouldn't really hear their silly excuses and false analogy if they had evidence. Don't debate people like that, it's like playing chess with a pigeon, they poo on the board, knock down all the chessmen and fly to their friends and brag about how they won. Don't get in a debate with a person threating you with his/her imaginary friends. You should, however, debate people (the ones that have interesting arguments), so you learn to question and not just assume. It's fun sometimes.This brings up how religion is immune to criticism. If they weren't in doubt of their own beliefs, they wouldn't be offended. This kind of behavior is generated by organized religious groups, which have given people the idea that because people believe in something, you shouldn't criticize it. Basically this comes down to a few things, it's a commonly accepted opinion that you should be able to criticize other people's opinions. It is also accepted that religion is a personal thing. Making it personal is a somewhat opinion, and it shouldn't be immune to other people's opinions. Yet it is accepted that you shouldn't judge religion. Why? Because they don't want someone to remind them about the ridiculous things about their belief. They don't want to think, they want to ignore. So let them be in their bubble, but don't let anyone shut YOU up. Ask them for arguments and shoot 'em down one at a time so they just refer to their hurries and don't bother you on the topic again. You still see them using the same arguments against other people tho, that is an indicator of ignorance and how they have no arguments left.Seriously, when I hear an atheist/unbeliever joke, I laugh. Most of the time at the stupidity and irony, but I don't get offended as they are generalizations in most cases. I'm willing to have a debate about the arguments people use against disbelief anytime and enjoy it. It's just very time-consuming tho, a bad side-effect.

Edited February 5, 2010 by Baniboy (see edit history)

[shadowx 0]

Hah, no it couldnt. I dont mean to ridicule you but the 7 day story is BS and everyone knows it.I am sorry but in my eyes anyone who believes that god really did create the earth and solar system in 7, well actually, 6 days, is an idiot. That story makes no account of dinosaurs for a start.... The time difference between dinos and humans is more than 7 days... Now, you could argue that all the dinosaur fossils are fake, perhaps made by scientists to get funded, in which case you would be so foolish that natural selection should finish you off and end the corruption of the gene pool.Seriously. Wake up! Question your religion! Dont be scared to do it! if your religion is so strong, so true and god is real then by questioning him and everything else you would only affirm your beleifs and align yourself more closely with your god. On the other hand if you find out its all a lie so what?! The mere fact that you find out it isnt true means that god wont send you to hell because you wouldve just found out he doesnt exist!The lack of questioning irritates me greatly!I am not religious per say but i do believe in many things, every single day i question them. I assume they arent real and then ask myself how something happens, or what it means etc... QUESTION it!Saint Thomas Aquinas, he is a saint according to QI, every saint must have performed a miracle or have a miracle attributed to them. IN the case of Aquinas his miracle is.... Wait for it... Turning sardines into herring. Oh yes... he was dying you see, and wanted some herring, hie friends couldnt only find sardines as there were no herring there at that time of year (i think it was around the Mediterranean) so they told him the sardines were herring and he hate them. He then proclaimed they were the best herring he had tasted and thus the myth was born that when Aquinas ate the sardines they turned magically into herring in his mouth... Nice one god. Dont worry about saving his life or consoling his family or enabling him to do more good on earth, just give him some herring. I realize this thread has turned into more of a religious debate than what the OP intended. i am sure i have had some influence on that. However, let me state that i have nothing against individual christians, i think they are deluded but they think so of me and it is their freedom to do so. However, the religion is flawed, it suppresses its followers, shackles them, you to its beliefs. You ant disagree for you are evil, you cannot speak out for you are evil. If you do something wrong just say sorry and you are forgiven. If you are a priest you might as well just abuse some kids, who cares?! If anyone asks the vatican for information on child abuse the vatican just ignores them. That's right, the vatican ignores child abuse, including rape, it LETS IT HAPPEN. ANd you are happy with that?!HA! I laugh at people that sweep it under the carpet. That is pathetic and wrong. Ex nazi runs your religion?! Oh thats ok, i mean, they were jews, they killed jesus, they probably deserved it right? WRONG! WAKE UP!</rant><disclaimer>If i offended any christians then... well im not sorry actually... As an individual i largely respect you, i am sure you are a good person, and i am sure christianity has helped you become a much better, happer person. And for that i am glad you found it. A christian man gets on my bus in the morning, i am almost proud of him that he has found a faith and stuck to it. I have never spoken to him however he looks respectable, and there is a "good" feeling about him. I do not hate christians, i hate the religion that it has become. If the christian god is real then he would be ashamed of most of his followers. He gave you free will to question and act upon the world as you see fit, but instead you follow like blind sheep, never asking, never seeking, never looking. Those that do, such as (IMHO) TrueFusion come across as educated, intelligent and i respect them for that, their faith is strong and although i do not think the religion is "true" (well i do... but my beleifs are a whole new topic several pages long) i respect the fact that people like TF have questioned it and still found it suits their lifestyle. Religion is not about serving god, it is about finding comfort, hope, freedom and happiness and no matter what religion you choose, so long as you question it and are sure it fits then i am happy for you. I really am. But when you dont ask questions, when you dont seek knowledge then i think you are a fool. A fool who will live an empty life, living for another person or a god, instead of for yourself. God does not put you here to serve him, god puts you here to experience the world, life and its many turns. Dont disappoint him by not living your life to the full. To do so is a waste. (I still dont believe in god, but im talking to those of you that do, hence why it appears as though i believe)</disclaimer>

[buxgoddess 1]

This is ridiculous to believe that religious people are bad from within their spirits. No one can justify such a statement and I absolutely disagree to it. Religion itself is not bad but political interference makes it bad.

[Zagubadu? 0]

Just as much as atheist's dislike other religions preaching to them. They are Hippocrates them selfs whom are just as guilty of preaching their atheist belief as other religions are guilty of preaching their beliefs. So get off your High Horse.

You can not use science to disprove God. There is no real way to prove 100% that the earth is billions of years old, yet you keep on preaching your propaganda and mixing it into scientific books so that everyone must believe it as a fact. Rubbish!

Compare it to looking at a car traveling past your house. To you that car has driven in a straight line since it came into your vision but that does not prove that the car was driving in a straight line for the last 40 miles. You just can't do that it's stupid. All the scientific evidence for the earth being billions of years old mean nothing to me. Why? because you weren't there when God create everything. Even if it looks 40 kabiliion years old , that still means nothing. It still could have been created in 7 days like the Bible says.

I'm going to somewhat quote my favorite show of all. Even though at first glance the whole things seems silly there are a lot of messages in it. So what If I told you there was a giant flying spaghetti monster. And that I believed in it. Speaking the way you are there is no way to disprove it, right? So you'd have to believe in it to believe in god. Oh you want some scrap of evidence I have it right here. Its a book with a bunch of stories written by the giant flying spaghetti monster so he must be real. Right?

 

Anyways it doesn't matter we could sit here and argue all day about whats what, who's who, what created what. But it wouldn't matter because the only way to prove it is to die and see it for yourself. I know the thought of dying and then there being nothing may seem depressing and sad. Anyways this thread isn't for religious debate I'm pretty sure there's hundreds of them already. I do still agree that there is some people who criticize atheists. I know when most Catholics think atheist they think of people that are going to be going around laughing at others fake god and telling them they're just going to rot in the ground. I don't want to be put on that train. I can't say I respect others beliefs because I'm going to be honest, I don't. I don't respect them I just ignore them and let them believe what they want to believe vice versa.

Edited February 5, 2010 by Zagubadu? (see edit history)

[knoppixusr 0]

Just because you fail to understand that God is not bound by time like you and me does not mean that it is impossible for God to have created the world in six days to look old instantly. He also created Adam as a fully grown man and not a baby.

 

You are trying to replace the creator of the universe with a box of random chance. That is even more absurd. For just one cell to exist it needs to be surrounded by an advanced membrane that only allows certain chemicals in and out only precisely when they are needed. Then the organism requires the correct DNA genetic structure to live. Have you noticed that everything in the world deteriorates? Nothing new gets created without the intervention of an external source.

 

As for dinosaurs, i do not have a problem with them, They are mentioned in the bible as living in the same time as man. I have done my homework on this and thanks to researching this over the years it has subsequently strengthened my faith. Even outside of the bible the evidence for dinosaurs living with man is everywhere. Locness monster? Footprints of humans inside dinosaurs prints? the many documented tales of dragons being slain in the middle ages across all different cultures? Ica burial stone found in Peru? Ironically most of the best evidence comes from the scientists who are evolutionists. Do your own homework...

 

My whole point is that the belief that there is no God is just that, a belief , a "religion" if you will.

You yourself should not be afraid to question your faith in these theories of the scientists you bow down to and worship.

 

 

Hah, no it couldnt. I dont mean to ridicule you but the 7 day story is BS and everyone knows it.

 

I am sorry but in my eyes anyone who believes that god really did create the earth and solar system in 7, well actually, 6 days, is an idiot.

 

That story makes no account of dinosaurs for a start.... The time difference between dinos and humans is more than 7 days... Now, you could argue that all the dinosaur fossils are fake, perhaps made by scientists to get funded, in which case you would be so foolish that natural selection should finish you off and end the corruption of the gene pool.

 

Seriously. Wake up! Question your religion! Dont be scared to do it! if your religion is so strong, so true and god is real then by questioning him and everything else you would only affirm your beleifs and align yourself more closely with your god. On the other hand if you find out its all a lie so what?! The mere fact that you find out it isnt true means that god wont send you to hell because you wouldve just found out he doesnt exist!

 

The lack of questioning irritates me greatly!

 

I am not religious per say but i do believe in many things, every single day i question them. I assume they arent real and then ask myself how something happens, or what it means etc... QUESTION it!

 

Saint Thomas Aquinas, he is a saint according to QI, every saint must have performed a miracle or have a miracle attributed to them. IN the case of Aquinas his miracle is.... Wait for it... Turning sardines into herring. Oh yes... he was dying you see, and wanted some herring, hie friends couldnt only find sardines as there were no herring there at that time of year (i think it was around the Mediterranean) so they told him the sardines were herring and he hate them. He then proclaimed they were the best herring he had tasted and thus the myth was born that when Aquinas ate the sardines they turned magically into herring in his mouth... Nice one god. Dont worry about saving his life or consoling his family or enabling him to do more good on earth, just give him some herring.

 

I realize this thread has turned into more of a religious debate than what the OP intended. i am sure i have had some influence on that.

 

However, let me state that i have nothing against individual christians, i think they are deluded but they think so of me and it is their freedom to do so. However, the religion is flawed, it suppresses its followers, shackles them, you to its beliefs. You ant disagree for you are evil, you cannot speak out for you are evil. If you do something wrong just say sorry and you are forgiven. If you are a priest you might as well just abuse some kids, who cares?! If anyone asks the vatican for information on child abuse the vatican just ignores them. That's right, the vatican ignores child abuse, including rape, it LETS IT HAPPEN. ANd you are happy with that?!

 

HA! I laugh at people that sweep it under the carpet. That is pathetic and wrong. Ex nazi runs your religion?! Oh thats ok, i mean, they were jews, they killed jesus, they probably deserved it right? WRONG!

 

WAKE UP!

 

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Edited February 5, 2010 by knoppixusr (see edit history)

[shadowx 0]

I question everything, not just my beliefs but scientific theories, recently i have looked into the intention experiment which appears to lend support for "magick" if you will. I am trying to find cross-references, previous studies etc... and especially criticism. We learn more about our beliefs from critics than we do from believers. Your logic is flawed i am afraid to say. Dinosaurs, in the classical sense, died out many millions of years ago. Humans however, only came to be true *person*-sapiens and *person*-erectus (i think that is the scientific name meaning standing upright as opposed to walking on our knuckles) a few millions of years ago. Many dinosaurs died out around 65 million years ago as im sure you know. Humans are much, much, much younger than that. In fact even things like the earliest monkeys did not appear for millions and millions of years.You cannot dispute this evidence. If you try you will look foolish, i am sorry...You also cannot say that god is timeless therefore he can create the earth in a timeless manor. Lets assume he did. Let's assume he created the earth in less than a second. how did he create the time difference between dinos and man? You could give me rubbish about the fact that he can do anything, but sorry that's an excuse and you know it. It irritates me that you are afraid to question what you believe in. Why is this? I know why, and you know why. Don't be a fool. If your faith is so weak you cannot question it then it is not the right path for you. If however, you CAN question it, and the answers please you then i congratulate you on finding the right path and i truly hope you continue your faith.Give me the chances that you think life couldve created itself? a hundred to one? thousand to one? trillion to one? tell me a number.

[anwiii 17]

i guess your beliefs will always be weak too since you are always questioning. you know some people have a problem with christianity or other religions forcing their beliefs on others in a disrespectfull way, but the point of this thread is doing the exact same thing as what was originally being complained about.

personally, i have been told i wouldn't be with god or be saved....blah blah blah. so what. although i really don't believe in what shadow is saying or the original poster for that matter, i agree that just because someone believes in something doesn't make it real....or the "truth". but rather than question everything that cannot be proved by facts, i rather believe in what i know and maybe incorporating little bits of what i don't know and be open to possibilities.

funny story: i remember one night, i drove to my local bar to hang out with my friends. i didn't have my tags and a cop followed me in the small parking lot. it later got towed. well, i got TRASHED that night. although i had many offers to drive me back home, i thought i would walk home after closing(about 15 miles). anyway, i was so trashed, i didn't make it. so half way there, i decided to take a little nap on someone's front lawn....heheheheh. i was awoken by some homeless lady preaching to me. she stood there in front of me yelling the word of god and also stating how i am damned and going to hell. she wouldn't stop. i just continued to pretend i was asleep until she left. it had to be 15 minutes of non stop preaching. after she stopped, i walked the rest of the way home.

even one of my best friends got "born again". when he would preach to me, i would listen to him. he would listen to me. we would smile from time to time. maybe we were both right. when people preach and even preach in a disrespectfull way, it's not really good to be offended but rather to see part of the truth in what they are saying because i just will never believe that people are 100% ignorant.

the title of this topic is "religious people aren't fair" yet it specifically singles out christians in the post. is that fair? is it even fair to lump all religious people in to one group? if people have a problem with the preaching, don't go places where you have to hear it, or maybe hang around them to possibly learn something new rather than be annoyed in what you don't agree with.

It irritates me that you are afraid to question what you believe in. Why is this? I know why, and you know why. Don't be a fool. If your faith is so weak you cannot question it then it is not the right path for you. If however, you CAN question it, and the answers please you then i congratulate you on finding the right path and i truly hope you continue your faith.

[kleong 0]

Yes I agree. I too similarly have friends who are christian and whatever we have encounter some problems at work or ayway, their favorite phrase would be "don't worry. Leave it to god and he will settle that for us". After making that phrase, they are like totally hands off from the subject, leaving the rest of us who is non-believers to settle it on ourselves.This is just but an example of it.

[uberadm 0]

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Have you ever noticed that it a crime to speak badly against religion. not so much a federal or state crime but a moral crime. Funny tho we get abuse from relious people all the time.

 

 

I have a friend who is Christian and every time i say something like I don't really think there is a gOd I get an earful bashing of how Im the devils tool, how I am evil and should not say that. They practically force you to believe or confess what they believe and yet if i said say god doesnt exists they would never do that. Why should Christian threaten us into being believers eg. If you say that it shows you are demon possesed. You are the devil's child if you do that. Why can they just say look i do not believe in what you saying cause to me god exists. and if you say prove his existence they get all angru and call you blasphemous. If things do not go right they always say you did not have faith. When danger is iminent your faith will multiply we all know that. the bible will say jesus says if you have faith the size of a mustard seed ahhhh well when tthings are terrible I think we all have bus loads of faith so how come things never work out then - Its cause did not have enuff faith.

 

I guess right now I will be called a satanist who is possessed all because I dared to ask lol.

 

Please be aware my post is for knowledge perpose not to look down uporn christianity or make you stop believing in GOD no. Im just try ask the questions others havent asked

What is the definition of fair?

Is this world "fair"?

Is life "fair"?

 

In my opinion, this world is made up of a bunch of people who all have different beliefs and opinions about everything. Not just religion. Politics, movies, music, the weather even. No matter where in the world you go, there will always be people who:

1) are extremists -- not just for religion. politics, movies, celebrities, etc.

2) don't believe what you do.

 

The combination of these characteristics in a person are going to cause the situation that you described. unfortunately it is just the way it is. Is it fair? I don't think so. But life isn't fair.

 

 

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Hah, no it couldnt. I dont mean to ridicule you but the 7 day story is BS and everyone knows it.

 

I am sorry but in my eyes anyone who believes that god really did create the earth and solar system in 7, well actually, 6 days, is an idiot.

Who is this "everyone" of which you speak?

Can you really truly say that "everyone" believes exactly what you do?

As far as i know, there as a large number of people in this world who believe the bible to be true. This creation account is in the very first chapter of this book. That seems to me like there are a significant number of people who believe the world to be created in 7 days. But who knows, I might be wrong. I don't know the opinion of every single person in the world.

 

 

shadowx said:

That story makes no account of dinosaurs for a start.... The time difference between dinos and humans is more than 7 days... Now, you could argue that all the dinosaur fossils are fake, perhaps made by scientists to get funded, in which case you would be so foolish that natural selection should finish you off and end the corruption of the gene pool.

I'm not going to claim that the fossils are fake. That would be foolish. I do believe however that the large reptiles mentioned in the bible are in fact references to dinosaurs, and that dinosaurs lived at the same time as man. I find knoppixuser's point on dinosaurs to be valid and agree with them:

 

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Even outside of the bible the evidence for dinosaurs living with man is everywhere. Locness monster? Footprints of humans inside dinosaurs prints? the many documented tales of dragons being slain in the middle ages across all different cultures?Ica burial stone found in Peru?

If you question everything, as you say you do, consider the possibility that dinosaurs lived with man.

 

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Humans however, only came to be true *person*-sapiens and *person*-erectus (i think that is the scientific name meaning standing upright as opposed to walking on our knuckles) a few millions of years ago

If people, as we know it, came about "a few million years ago", then how come there are so few people on the earth? The population of the earth has been growing at such a rate that in a million years this earth would have more then several billion. In fact, this PDF ( https://calculators.io/world-population-to-2300/ ) was released by the UN showing that the world population has been increasing by between 1.5% and 2% every year for the past 50 years. The population has increased from 2.5 billion to 6.1 billion people over the past 50 years. if that change has happened in just 50 years, why aren't there more people around? if they've been here for a million years?