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What Is The Point Of Proxy Sites? ... If the proxy sites get banned anyway?

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@Nameless, it's not other issue. it is issue of my ISP. cause goverment is not spying on ISP's and customers. They just block (porn,fishy,warez,virus sites). They have no problem for paid sites in those categories (porn, warez). I checked it with other customers of ISP, proxy softwares are blocked by ISP.
As far as i know, government here have no problem unless sites are too extreme with objectionable content. Some porn sites here have very objectionable text contents (they can tolerate media content as it can't be stopped but text content is too much beyond free speech for some sites. Especially in case of child pornography and other stuff. Such sites deserve ban. And i have no objection to it. Those who want to access it better pay some bucks, pass through filters and break the law. It's better to have government which checks content and block, rather than government (like china)which spy on people and their surfing trends.


Yeah... I agree with you on that point. I agree that governments should ban things like THAT, especially child pornography and all that... and to me, warez and virus and hacking/other criminal activity sites come second. It's just horrible... the things they do to children. Why don't they think about it for a moment and think how THEY would feel if they were abused as children. I'm sure they wouldn't like it, unless their minds are so warped in this enjoyment of child rape and abuse that they would imagine themselves liking it...

People these days, they make me really sick. China really ought to think about what they are doing.

But what I mean is, OK, so your ISP IS really blocking proxy sites. Why would they do that? What is their purpose in blocking that? I really don't think that there is any purpose or benefit to the ISP company in blocking proxy sites, especially when other ISP companies that are also their competitors unblocks them. I mean, people will actually go to another ISP just because of this whole blocking system. Don't they think about that???

Plus, as people have said, proxies aren't meant to bypass filters and blocks as I have once thought. They are meant to keep people's IP addresses private on the internet because they want privacy. Nothing more. What's wrong with that? Of course, the occasional person will also use it to go on social networking sites like Facebook and mySpace and Bebo, but that doesn't include me (which is strange seeing I am part of the generation that seems to be the drive of this thriving social networking sites), and if I am to use it I will only be using it for accessing Xisto at school, in which I personally consider to be very appropriate and rather educational in my opinion.

So, I mean, why would your ISP block proxy sites? Do they also block other porn/warez/virus sites as well? If they don't, then I really don't see the point of blocking proxy sites when there are more important sites to block in the first place.

Have you ever considered contacting the company by phone and asking them about it?

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It's possible that you could create a proxy on your home computer, give it a non standard/typical port # and a password leave the computer running and online, and at school use your computer (and it's I.P. Address) as a proxy. You might be able to bypass the blocking and show off.. :)
For extra security use a firewall to block any connections on that port not from your school. (get the schools ip address). If it doesn't support a password, this would still be relatively safe I think. You don't want people using IP to do illegal things, you know. People often do port scans on entire ranges of IP Addresses to find open ports that could be of use to them, someone infected with a virus (trojan horse type) or unprotected web servers (Yes, that
includes your Psionicks website!) and if you use standard proxy ports like the ones you see on proxy sites, people will want to use your computer as a proxy for lots of bad stuff!

I don't know if it'd get around the blocking, not sure how they block stuff, but it might work. There are other ways besides proxy servers also to connect to your computer and use it. It's kind of neat controlling your computer from somewhere else..


yeah !!! when I was doing my graduation, I also wanted to show off like this :P but I couldn't do it as for this thing to work I need to have a public ip-address. I live in delhi/india, here when I connect to internet I am assigned a private ip-address dynamically by my ISP. So, in short I am a part of very large private network and all my internet request goes through the ISP which has the outgoing public ip-address. If any one knows how I can make this setup work then I would anyway be able to showoff now :P:)


Well ... We found other use for this proxy thing. We 6 friends used this proxy setting to share Internet connection.

We created our own private network and forward all internet requests from this private network to a proxy server(private) which was connect to the internet, that proxy server in turn forwarded all request to the ISP and so it all worked. This proxy server provided added security since it was acting as firewall to other computer on the network.

So, I think even if internet proxy servers got banned, we poor ones have uses for private proxy servers and I think if a thing exists then concept related to this thing exists, which may help somebody .. :P

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But what I mean is, OK, so your ISP IS really blocking proxy sites. Why would they do that? What is their purpose in blocking that? I really don't think that there is any purpose or benefit to the ISP company in blocking proxy sites, especially when other ISP companies that are also their competitors unblocks them.

Purpose ? Not everything(i mean business) is around freedom. They can even market from this negative point. How ? they'll create market for proxy software and sites that can bypass their restriction. Besides they offer very high-speed and low cost plans for internet. Their purpose is to avoid nasty things from happening. People can screw a lot of internet from proxy. In this case of ISP, they're opening market for paid proxy sites and softwares IMO. Cause free one's are blocked. Paid sites get around with ISP quite easily.

Plus, as people have said, proxies aren't meant to bypass filters and blocks as I have once thought. They are meant to keep people's IP addresses private on the internet because they want privacy. Nothing more.

Wrong. Proxy is not just about privacy and to check sites if they're down or not. They're also used to bypass filters and blocking software. Proxy sites have multiple uses.

So, I mean, why would your ISP block proxy sites? Do they also block other porn/warez/virus sites as well? If they don't, then I really don't see the point of blocking proxy sites when there are more important sites to block in the first place.

There is point here that they don't block all warez content. and porn sites as well. They block warez and porn content which is banned by government. Which is acceptable for me. They;'re blocking proxy and anonymous surfing to avoid nasty issues. Some people do visit porn/warez using proxie. So i guess they want to limit people for that as speed from ISP is high and there are chances that dynamic IP users of ISP can misuse it.

Have you ever considered contacting the company by phone and asking them about it?

Yes i did. But they asked me question that why i want to use proxy ? I was speechless after this question. Don't know what to say when they asked me this. I didn't want to use it for porn and warez. But i got confused why i wanted to use proxy it at first place when they asked me this question. :P

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Yes i did. But they asked me question that why i want to use proxy ? I was speechless after this question. Don't know what to say when they asked me this. I didn't want to use it for porn and warez. But i got confused why i wanted to use proxy it at first place when they asked me this question. biggrin.gif

well, it's none of their business, you could've just told them something like you wanted to browse privately. Never panic, just make something up on the go. Besides it is your right contact any ip without being restricted unless that is an illegal site. I assume that by porn being illegal you mean child and rape porn and other illegal things. I don't know if porn is illegal in where you live...

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well, it's none of their business, you could've just told them something like you wanted to browse privately. Never panic, just make something up on the go. Besides it is your right contact any ip without being restricted unless that is an illegal site. I assume that by porn being illegal you mean child and rape porn and other illegal things. I don't know if porn is illegal in where you live.

I got confused rather than panic. Cause the support of ISP is very good at bombarding with questions and talking very fast. They was hardly listening to me at first place. And yes, child and rape porn is illegal and some other extreme offensive text/porn/warez content is illegal as i've mentioned earlier in my posts. Porn as in general is not illegal or restricted.

But i've to come up with convincing answer that why i want to use proxy at first place. In work area, proxy sites allow me to facebook but at home it's accessible and i can't make any reason for that. Spotify was one thing that i wanted to access via proxy but they'll hardly listen to that request and i forgot about that as well.

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A proxy is use for many reasons, the first reason is when you want to surf anonymously and don't be track by someone who can have your IP.The second reason is when you want to bypass some filter. In example if you want to unblock facebook you can get a web proxy. Sometimes , like in your case, the particular proxy gets banned from a server and thus preventing you from using the proxy in their server. But you can use a Firefox proxy to get through that point. It is very simple here are the steps:-

1. Step 1

Start the Mozilla Firefox 2.0 browser by double-clicking on the Firefox icon that was created when Firefox was installed.
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Step 2

Choose on the "Tools" menu, and click on "Options."
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Step 3

Click the "Advanced" tab at the top of the "Options" dialog box to display the advanced settings for your Firefox browser.
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Step 4

Select the gray "Network" tab near the top of the "Options" dialog box.
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Step 5

Click the "Settings" button under the "Connection" category in the "Options" dialog box to bring up the "Connection Settings" dialog box.
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Step 6

Select the "Manual proxy configuration" radio button. The text boxes below the selection will now be enabled so you can enter the proxy settings for your Firefox browser.
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Step 7

Type in the proxy server address and configuration port in the appropriate text boxes for your Internet settings. If you don't know your server address or configuration port, contact your system administrator. Click the "OK" button on both dialog boxes to enter the proxy settings.

Source: eHow

If you have a reliable proxy , then you should be able to get though the server. Here are some proxy lists that might work for you. Just keep trying the lists until you get a working one. You might want to pick a US or S. Korea one as those work best. And please no china as it lags too much and most sites are banned even though you have proxy. So you can stop complaining that the proxy sites don't work :) Just use plain old Firefox and some brains.

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It is inevitable that certain proxy sites become blocked as they are discovered by schools and universities. But as they become banned and inaccessible, more proxy sites are being created to bypass existing filters and allow others to continue to access banned sites through the proxy. The only difficult thing is finding the right proxy that is not banned and usable.

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I assume your school is using the same proxy as my school is using, Astaro.Not all proxies are banned on there, you just need to be crafty, and figure out ways around it.I know for a fact, dtunnel works on astaro.Also, if something is banned, try adding an s after the http (https://...)

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