Computers Totally Sumberged In Oil Mineral Oil Cooling

[chaos3932 0]

This is a great new trend for technology with pcs. Quite simple to be honest anyone could have thought of putting a computer in a fish tank with some mineral oil. I even looked up some of dells top of the line gaming pcs and they too use mineral oil for cooling. This is way more efficient than dusty old plastic fans wired into the case.

Check this video out!
http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/

Edited March 21, 2009 by chaos3932 (see edit history)

[HappyHippie 0]

Wow Interesting. CRAZY But very interesting. I dont know But in my opinion I paid way to much money for my PC to be taking it apart and submerging it in mineral, vegtable, Or any kind of oil. It was kinda cool to watch though. I watched a couple different videos on it. But like I said I couldnt do it. I dont know if that would really work or not, But to me I would think Electricity Plus Oil = Major Fire Hazard? Is it just me or does anyone else see this happening?

[cyber_electrons 0]

I like the idea, but what is the cooling efficiency? How effective is it?I might consider trying it when I make a complete upgrade of my computer and use old parts. What kind of oil would you recommend and it cools effectively?

[chaos3932 0]

Wow Interesting. CRAZY But very interesting. I dont know But in my opinion I paid way to much money for my PC to be taking it apart and submerging it in mineral, vegtable, Or any kind of oil. It was kinda cool to watch though. I watched a couple different videos on it. But like I said I couldnt do it. I dont know if that would really work or not, But to me I would think Electricity Plus Oil = Major Fire Hazard? Is it just me or does anyone else see this happening?

The Mineral Oil is non conductive, altho it is viscous(meaning it finds its way into small places) So if you were to build your computer it would be best to do it the way they did by hiding your ports at the top side of the tank using a special motherboard& to install your disk drive/ cddrives in the top as well. The reason for this is the disk drives are not perfectly sealed and if oil gets inside it can ruin them or drastically ruin the speed that it can read the disk ect. altho there is special drives that you can use fine submerged in oil. The absolute worse that can happen with this set up is the wearing of stickers, and eventual discolloring of led lights. The oil can wisk its way down cables apparently so you would need to install wireless parts to help prevent messes, and try to keep your power cables clean. I suspect that they or you could create a way to keep the mess down.

I like the idea, but what is the cooling efficiency? How effective is it?
I might consider trying it when I make a complete upgrade of my computer and use old parts.

What kind of oil would you recommend and it cools effectively?

The mineral oil works way better than fan cooling. It takes 12 long hours before the tempreatures are even close to its maximum. They have engineered a radiator system to help cool the oil. So now it rarely if ever reaches these max temps. Also it helps moderate concetrated temperatures around certain regions. dispersing the heat evenly helping prolong the life of your hardware. Another downside they mentioned was the possible build up of h2o/which will be visible and can be removed(they have yet to see this happen though) and after a whole year your oil will start showing murkeyness. Which any pc oil or open air will require eventual cleaning. They suggest you install a radiator system to cool the oil that also helps filter it? Well you could build your own and try out some ideas of your own. Or keep up to date on the site in which they are continuously updating new ideas they have discovered to improve the system. Like I said its a really new idea and imperfect. However its awsome use for a gaming pc, I am not too sure if its practicle for dedicated servers and such for hard working computers. I think they solved the heating problem so maybe it is. We wont know until they have tested the computers further.

For more details here is the website.
https://www.pugetsystems.com/submerged.php


Edited March 21, 2009 by chaos3932 (see edit history)

[fadillzzz 0]

The Mineral Oil is non conductive, altho it is viscous(meaning it finds its way into small places) So if you were to build your computer it would be best to do it the way they did by hiding your ports at the top side of the tank using a special motherboard& to install your disk drive/ cddrives in the top as well. The reason for this is the disk drives are not perfectly sealed and if oil gets inside it can ruin them or drastically ruin the speed that it can read the disk ect. altho there is special drives that you can use fine submerged in oil. The absolute worse that can happen with this set up is the wearing of stickers, and eventual discolloring of led lights. The oil can wisk its way down cables apparently so you would need to install wireless parts to help prevent messes, and try to keep your power cables clean. I suspect that they or you could create a way to keep the mess down.



The mineral oil works way better than fan cooling. It takes 12 long hours before the tempreatures are even close to its maximum. They have engineered a radiator system to help cool the oil. So now it rarely if ever reaches these max temps. Also it helps moderate concetrated temperatures around certain regions. dispersing the heat evenly helping prolong the life of your hardware. Another downside they mentioned was the possible build up of h2o/which will be visible and can be removed(they have yet to see this happen though) and after a whole year your oil will start showing murkeyness. Which any pc oil or open air will require eventual cleaning. They suggest you install a radiator system to cool the oil that also helps filter it? Well you could build your own and try out some ideas of your own. Or keep up to date on the site in which they are continuously updating new ideas they have discovered to improve the system. Like I said its a really new idea and imperfect. However its awsome use for a gaming pc, I am not too sure if its practicle for dedicated servers and such for hard working computers. I think they solved the heating problem so maybe it is. We wont know until they have tested the computers further.

For more details here is the website.
https://www.pugetsystems.com/submerged.php

i've seen one like this before, and it looks pretty cool.
my friend is trying to make one of this...i hope he manage to build one!

[cyber_electrons 0]

the disk drives are not perfectly sealed and if oil gets inside it can ruin them or drastically ruin the speed that it can read the disk ect.

I would wire away all permanent data storage device (not like the RAMs and stuff like that) to outside of rht oil tank. It doesn't worth a messed up drive.

Except for CDD and HDD, are there any other components to worry about having oil finding its way into them? The last thing that probably anyone wants is a non-working computer after doing something which supposingly should work..

[Ash-Bash 0]

This is a great new trend for technology with pcs. Quite simple to be honest anyone could have thought of putting a computer in a fish tank with some mineral oil. I even looked up some of dells top of the line gaming pcs and they too use mineral oil for cooling. This is way more efficient than dusty old plastic fans wired into the case.
Check this video out!
http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/

Thats like this one I saw a while ago http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/ I want to see someone do it with water I think it would only work with oil though due to the properties inside the oil cell's (Some boff can correct me if I am wrong) Anyway I found the first time I saw it was amazing! and someone actually do it without blowing it or himself up!

[chaos3932 0]

You cannot do it with water at all... as water is conductive and can corrode the parts due to its polar properties and oxygen content. So umm no water would be a very bad idea! Anything you expose to water normally fries instantly...

[cyber_electrons 0]

You cannot do it with water at all... as water is conductive

Pure water (pure H2O) does not conduct electricity. only the impurities in tap water, for example, conduct electricity.

But of course, water is a bad liquid to use in this situation where all components sit in it. Metal bits will be oxidized (rusted) and eventually useless... So using water to cool the computer (in contact) is basically torturing and killing the computer.

[Lightning73 0]

This looks awesome, not cheap like they call it though. But the performance boost you get from it seems pretty amazing and well worth trying. However I would also like to know about the moist? And will this give your computer a longer or a shorter life time?That sort of information would be really awesome to see answered. Thanks

[cyber_electrons 0]

I think using oil will lengthen the life of the computer as oil protects the components from oxidation. If you are using oil with the computer and it is submerged, then moisture will not be a problem as the oil seals of moisture and air from whatever submerged. But keep in mind that the liquid will seek its way into small gaps so keep your data storage devices away from oil for safety.

[chaos3932 0]

From the looks of it. Its true that it "may" lengthen the lifespan of your computer by also reducing the concentrated areas of heat inside the computer. The oil distributes the heat evenly allowing the ambient temperature to stay moderate and low.Also keep in mind that they suspect the radiator/filter system could cause moderate ammounts of water to enter the tank. If this does happen then you should be able to see it after a while. Make sure when you install the components to have them placed half an inch or so from the bottom of the tank. (as a extra precaution)It is not yet seen as a real issue.In addition it is almost impossible to get pure H2O even with distilled water. So the chances of conductivity, and a possible ph problem are relevant to the issue with submerging in water. Not to mention water is called the universal solvent for a reason. The elements inside the parts of the computer could very well dissolve, or decompose. Especially the metallic ionic elements inside the motherboard.

Edited March 24, 2009 by chaos3932 (see edit history)

[BuffaloHelp 24]

Electrical conductivity should be the main issue why computers are not shipped with any forms of liquid filled tank. Short circuiting definitely would shorten the lifespan of your hardware.PC boards have mildly coated with anti-corrosive formula to protect from natural corrosion. However things like even oils from your fingerprint can do harm over lengthy time. But if we are thinking of keeping a computer quiet from the noise of fan and harddrive spinning sound, I would prefer to submerge the foundation of a computer--motherboard, I/O cards and well prepared power supply. I would not, however, prefer to submerge CD/DVD ROMS (just because they need not be so oily when I take my CD/DVD in and out of the tray) and the harddrive. You never know when your harddrive needs replacing or upgrading. It's going to be a mess trying to fish out your drives from the bath of mineral oil.

[trapp17 0]

that is just sick... it looks so cool! Im now thinking of making one... with an upgraded cooling system! Ill add another bigger outer tank and fill it with cold water and ice and overclock it like hell! xD overkill!

[iXeta 0]

I love the concept. I helped a friend build one of these a few weeks back. The only problem with it is, if you want to change your parts. You're gonna be

dealing with a pretty big mess taking the thing out, and then putting it back in.