Human Locator

[abminara 0]

Hello. I'd like to share an idea I got when coming from work in a bus and getting lost by choosing a wrong one.Nowadays you often hear in the news that more and more people (unfortunately, usually - children) are being lost (or kidnapped). So, the idea is to install a small device into human body. The device will be sending radiosignals periodically to the satellite, which can thus trace the location from which it was sent. Of course, it will need charging periodically - that's why it should have a small solar battery on it (s it does not require much energy to operate). The device should be installed in a place on human body that gets alot of solar light, but also somewhere where it is invisible (for the sake of beauty and protection). The organ that gets and collects most of the light is a human eye. I suppose, with modern technology it will not be a big problem to install a microscopical device in there. Now, as the sattelite gets the signal, it has to send it somewhere. IMHO there should be 2 "keys": 1 will be given to any police officer, that can type in the unique combination that corresponds to the ID number of the person's device to ge the information about their location. The other one should be given only to the parents of the person that can potentially be "lost" (which is everyone). They can only view their childs' location, unlike the police. It should be mandatory that the parents have to keep the "key" up till their child is 18 (an age at which we become more or less ready for real life, can fight for ourselves, and don't have stupid ideas like running away from home, as you will probably be paying for your own at that time). After 18 the child could ask the parents the key back to destroy it, or give to someone else he wishes to (fiancee? wife? boss? brother? sister?). Thus the advantages:- A lot of protection from kidnapping- More safety and thus freedomNow, the bad parts:- Surgery (probably should be done at the time of birth, when senses are not that mature)- Cost for project development- Cost of the sattelite launch and programming- Cost of materials Any ideas? This could really save a lot of lives...

[FLaKes 0]

That is something that has been thought of many times, the idea that I have heard for powering it was the own body's energy. It is enough to power a small chip. I really doubt that it could be surgically implanted into someone at birth because of growth. The chip would make the skin stretch in some way or another, its the same reason why some people have to wait until their 20's to get certain surgeries. Its until the person has grown fully. I personally would not like a chip like this ever created, I feel like its going to reduce peoples freedom. Believe me that there is something like this being made already, I wouldnt doubt the governments see lots of advantages in them.

[Forbez 0]

Disadvantagess:- Lose of privacy- Hackers can locate ANYONE- Easier for celebs get be found- Easier for anyone to be found- Will cost BILLIONSWe ment to be living in a free world, and you want everyone chip. Isn't that just a lost of your freedom?

[galexcd 0]

I think before we even start to develop anything like this we need to think of what is moral and what crosses past the barrier of being amoral. These little children who's parents will force to have this "installed" in them will have no privacy unless they have it removed, but then what hospital would remove it? This isn't a necessity to the patient's health and therefore no insurance will cover it forcing the subject to pay for the procedure him or herself, not to mention dangerous. If these things are going to go into peoples' eyes, there is a great risk of blindness. Who is to blame when a concerned parent has this done to their son or daughter, and the procedure goes wrong? What if that child will never see again? I think people aren't ready yet for such an invasion of privacy.

[Saint_Michael 3]

Sadly this kind of technology is being developed and right now there are several prototypes being tested, both for medical purposes ad tracking purposes. The problem of course is what everyone else is saying and that is the moral amd privacy issues; although. the hacking one of these devices is a bit interesting, but since this devices will never become a requirement in this country I wouldn't worry about it. Of course I would think a kid should carry a cell phone with GPS technology and it will, or at least I think it will be helpful when trying to find a child.

[bishoujo 0]

Other than infringement of privacy and other points that other people have stated, I believe all that charging, signaling and stuff may also result in some health damages. I don't know much about all this technological stuff, but I do believe that it may emit some form of infrared radiation, which, though may be insignificant in small amounts, could cause permanent damage when it gets built up over the years. If the device is carried externally, like a handphone with GPS, then that might be more feasible.

[HoRuS 0]

There is allready plans for implementing chips into a human body, as I recall they will be placed just below your knuckles.It is said you can pay with it, be localized, registered etc. but also it will be easier to track down what we do and influence our behaviour.Cats and dogs allready need to have one, humans are next if it's up to the governments.I personally will reject any chip inside my body, I love my privacy at times as well as my free mind.

[galexcd 0]

Cats and dogs allready need to have one, humans are next if it's up to the governments.

Cats and dogs don't "need" them, yet, but you can have a chip installed in them, but these are not GPS chips, (they might sell some kind of GPS chips for your pets but its not too popular) the kinds of chips they are putting in pets right now store the information of the owners, kind of like a digital dog tag.

[abminara 0]

Well... As I can see, the discussion in here can be linked to the ACT PATRIOT - personal safety vs. privacy. What would you like? That somebody always knows where you are, and what you are doing, what are yo reading, watching, to whom are you writing e-mails, etc., or 3000 innocent people die because of some extrimist that really thinks that this mass destruction is going to help move his ideas forward? I personally have difficulty answering this question myself. I really want to quote: "Give me my liberty, or give me death!" but on the other hand... is it really worth it? I am probably being monitored right now being an alien in the US, some person in FBI national security office is probably reading this message right now and laughing. But on the other hand - that's done only for my own safety and safety of tons of other people. P. S. Hi, FBI agent P. P. S. As for celebs - I don't care. The "Star Desease" had to be cured somehow some time anyway. As for the hackers... Yes, I really did not think of that.

[shadowx 0]

What would you like? That somebody always knows where you are, and what you are doing, what are yo reading, watching, to whom are you writing e-mails, etc., or 3000 innocent people die because of some extremist that really thinks that this mass destruction is going to help move his ideas forward?

If this question means that because everyone is "tagged" then so will extremists and thus we would know exactly what when and where they are planning, that just wouldnt work. If youre an extremist willing to kill yourself then youd be willing to take out your eye, or hand, or other chip cntaining area of your body, or to blast it with an EMP or otherwise disable it.

The chips would only prevent or solve the more minor offences and not mass terrorism, nothing will stop terrorism except the end of mankind. On a less philosophical note i think a better solution would be to have "chipped" jewellery like rings, earrings, bracelets etc... that are just safety accessories, that way your child or whoever could wear one on a night out etc.. so if they were abducted or anything they could be tracked and when they get home or when they want privacy they just turn it off or take it off. Easy!

[abminara 0]

The chips would only prevent or solve the more minor offences and not mass terrorism, nothing will stop terrorism except the end of mankind. On a less philosophical note i think a better solution would be to have "chipped" jewellery like rings, earrings, bracelets etc... that are just safety accessories, that way your child or whoever could wear one on a night out etc.. so if they were abducted or anything they could be tracked and when they get home or when they want privacy they just turn it off or take it off. Easy!

That sounds fine, but I feel like it is going to be extremely expensive, at least - at first. Plus jewerly seems to have a very bad property - it is sometimes stolen:) You as a parent sitting in PA might be possibly wandering, what the hell is your son doing in Nevada:)

As for the self-torturing - this is happening anyways, many people sthink that it's a good tone to burn themselves alive in a huge crowd to show their protest. But, a question arises, WHO ON EARTH IS GOING TO CARE THAT YOU DIED EXCEPT THOSE SEVERAL FRIENDS AND FAMILY MEMBERS TO WHOM YOU ONLY HARMED BY YOUR ACTIONS??? Yeah, people are going to watch the fascinating view of a burning instinctively running person, who probably starts to realize in the back of his mind somewhere by that time that it was not that necessary to burn himself and accomplish nothing, but afterwards the police will just take the body away and everyone will just walk away taking no action.

On the othwer hand, when you have 130 hostages on a plane and a 110 story building that also contains several thousands, and you run that plane into it (9/11), clearly, you will get all the attention of the media in the world possible and thus make your case heard - this is indeed a "better" way to make yourself heard, but once again... is it really worth your life and the life of those around you that have done no harm to you in their entire life?

[Watermonkey 0]

So you're buying the official story of 9-11: 19 hijackers, most of them from Saudi Arabia and trained in Afghanistan, all managed to hijack planes the fly most of them into their intentional targets causing two (three?) of them to completely collapse into their own footprints (something that's never before happened, let alone three times in a day) so the USA makes war with Iraq and goes after the Taliban in Afghanistan? How does any of this make sense??? From where I sit, you'd have to be a complete low-grade moron to believe any part of the official lie the government-run media is shoving down your throat on a daily basis. It's all so completely absurd, you may as well believe that I and my cousin Billy Bob planned and financed the whole thing! Is there no limit to the gullibility of the American Idiot?Beyond that, how do you figure giving up all semblance of autonomy and privacy somehow equates to gaining security? How can these two be mutually inclusive? Here's something for you to try to digest:Concealed carry permits aren't found at the bottom of a Cracker Jack box. They cost money, require proficiency training, and a thorough background check. Anyone who's got a concealed carry permit is trusted by the very same government that desires, most of all, to disarm every "little person" on the planet, to carry a firearm with them nearly everywhere they go. There is a huge and constantly growing list of excuses or reasons for the government entity to deny such a permit. If passengers on board a commercial airline were allowed to exercise their ability to carry concealed in the air just as they do on the ground, you'd have a plane with 10 or more random people who happen to have their side-arms and there's no way in hell such an aircraft would ever be hi-jacked. EVER. Seems to me you're wanting to go in the exact opposite direction. When you give up liberty in favor or alleged security, you will get (and deserve) neither. And don't go buying the lie that people with concealed permits commit crimes. More crime is committed by law enforcement officers, by a high margin! You may give up your liberty, don't pretend it's what's good for the rest of us though. Your delusions are yours alone.

[csp4.0 1]

ok, this is a really bad idea. This could possibly be one of the worst decisions ever. First it would make us vulnerable, andy person that has access to the system will know where anyone is. And remember JFK? how he was assassinated? yes this device could be used as a homing beacon for some type of missile and it'll invade our privacy because who knows what the 'company' that made it put inside it. Like the Doctor Who episode 'The Age of Steel' they could easily put stuff like mind control devices, timed-release devices etc

[Carson 0]

I think this could possibly be a good idea for children, where it is the parents decision to get the device installed. This could help with a lot of kidnappings, and lost children. But I dont think its a good idea for adults. We all need our privacy, and there is bound to be incorrect use of the system by someone. I think the best possible use is for criminals on parol. That way they can always be located. Although dont they already have something like that? With this going inside the body though, it would be more efficient.

[abminara 0]

Watermonkey, you make 0 (Z-E-R-O) sense. Learn your physics, man. A bullet fired inside an airplane may sure kill a terrorist, but it will most certainly hit the window, roof, or side of an airplane, causing decompression, rapid change of pressure and temperature, in which (if the plane is high enough) every single person is going to die as their organs are going to explode from that big of a sudden change - it's like leaving a submarine while 100 meters under sea level with no protection. Also passengers sit rather closely, and, if someone is threatened, a panic will raise, thus making it virtually impossible to shoot the terrorist without hitting anyone else (or the bullet could rickoshet from any metallic surface inside and accidentally kill someone. Now, what are you going to do if there is more than one terrorist?)Oh, and don't forget usual turbulance you meet while flying from East to West in Northern Hemisphere, which is going to make your arm shake even more.You just "proved" with zero reasoning that 9/11 was planned and executed by the U. S. government. Now, my next question - what on Earth could ever motivate them to do that? You make no sense.