unicornrose 0 Report post Posted July 8, 2006 I really enjoy games like The Sims where I can control the environment and what the people do. Its kind of freaky though how sometimes my own life correlates with that game a little too much. Just like the Sims or any other simulator game I have a certain amount of freedom to do what I want. But every once in a while I feel like I am being forced into circumstances that I can not stand or seemingly have no control over. It sometimes feels like I am being directed what to do. Sometimes I wonder just how much of our lives do we really have control over. There is so much in our environment and lives that has an influence on what we do, say and act on. I occasionally wonder if we are a bunch of pawns on someones chess board. LOL I am not sure if anyone else remembers the movie Tron? Well that was a movie about people who were forced to live a game while someone else was controlling them and did not know it. Freaking amazing concept for the time. I was very facinated by the idea. There have been other movies that have used games as a way to control people's lives. Last Starfighter used a video game to find the last starfighter pilot to save the world lol. Anything that involves the possibility of someone or something else controling us facinates me. I think that the Sims is very much the closest to that feeling most people get sometimes. Its weird really how we can be controlled by outside influences. LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
husker 0 Report post Posted July 8, 2006 (edited) Sometimes it does feel like that, but I think we usually have a choice. If your friend says, "do you want to ride this ride?" and you know that you will puke, you say no. You have a lot of choices, but sometimes those choices can result in an unexpected event. So after you say no to the coaster, you may bump into a trash can and fall into it. So I think we have choices at some points, but our choices can lead to more choices or events that were meant to happen. I hope that makes sense. Edited July 8, 2006 by husker (see edit history) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cerebral Stasis 0 Report post Posted July 9, 2006 Well, if someone's controlling my life like The Sims, it must be a pretty boring game, since all I do is sit on the computer all day long.I don't think that live is a video game, hologram, dream, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canlspelt 0 Report post Posted July 9, 2006 I dont know if this is the right question, how about if we were to ask "are we living a dream?".We all know the saying "life is too short", maybe thats because it only lasts 1 night, every day we wake up somewhere else, as someone different and live a day the lenght of a lifetime, ready to go to bed and dream someone elses life, that'd be awsome! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joshua 0 Report post Posted July 10, 2006 I dont know if this is the right question, how about if we were to ask "are we living a dream?".We all know the saying "life is too short", maybe thats because it only lasts 1 night, every day we wake up somewhere else, as someone different and live a day the lenght of a lifetime, ready to go to bed and dream someone elses life, that'd be awsome! Well, if you believe in God that ties in pretty well to this. In that case there is a spiritual battle going on all around us where Satan is trying to maintain his hold on us through all his worldly powers as God tries to draw us to Him and the purpose of a relationship with Him for which we were initially created. What's more, it makes this world and this life nothing more then a testing ground for the true realities, to see which of the 2 eternal realms we will inhabit, one with God or one apart from Him. Look around, are there ironies in life to the point that they can't be explained away as mere coincidence? And if so, when and why did they start appearing? As for the idea of waking up every day as someone else, how then does memory tie into that? And what about when we stay away for more then a full day? You could always test that theory and stay awake longer tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cerebral Stasis 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2006 Well it's a thought and noone can say whether or not it is what the universe really is, although if life really was a dream, why are there such physical constraints as there are? If it were a dream, wouldn't the possibilities be limitless? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zach101 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2006 Hmm I feel very sorry for the person controlling me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matto 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2006 Heh, I've actually thought about something quite similar to what you seem to have been thinking about.Actually it's a bit different.. The way you seem to be picturing it someone, something, or some people (or some things, I suppose =p) are actually controlling you. I sort of changed it, as the thing that I used to think about is us being a part of another person's dream. So we're being controlled by a person's subconcious. He/she/it has some sort of choice as to what happens, in a general fashion, but it's also out of control of the person controlling.And then, if the idea I have is true, that would mean that the person dreaming us probably lives in another society and/or population. What about that? Is he living in someone else's dream as well? The subconcious of someone who is the sobconcious of someone else... Weird. Yet, in a way, quite cool. I'm loving this.And then what happens when the person wakes up? I always imaged, as a kid, that when the person is awake we are asleep. But then, what about the person he's being dreamed by? And what about us, compared to that person?Kind of a scary thought, isn't it? I <3 infinite possibilities... Hehe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gameratheart 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2006 I've actually thought about this quite a lot... to be honest, sometimes I start to think that this whole world is a massive RPG. But you know why I don't believe this is true? No RespawningNo known glitchesThe world never "lags"The graphics technology required to power such a realistic simulation would have to be more powerful then almost anything in the universe. Especially when you consider it is not just "our world" that exists.However, there is some truth as to this matter of us being controlled like a Sims game: A group of Scientists have recently tried to prove the belief that we all have free will. However, they are so far unable to prove it, due to the discovery that the mind makes decisions seconds before we are conscious of our decisions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thelaw 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2006 I've actually thought about this quite a lot... to be honest, sometimes I start to think that this whole world is a massive RPG. But you know why I don't believe this is true? No RespawningNo known glitchesThe world never "lags"The graphics technology required to power such a realistic simulation would have to be more powerful then almost anything in the universe. Especially when you consider it is not just "our world" that exists.However, there is some truth as to this matter of us being controlled like a Sims game: A group of Scientists have recently tried to prove the belief that we all have free will. However, they are so far unable to prove it, due to the discovery that the mind makes decisions seconds before we are conscious of our decisions. Well accuallty i have something to tell you, the question was are we living in a game. what if this wasn't a game, but reletivity it looks as if it is or was. Now the facts consider what if this game was being ran by a different race... like aliens. than your Online gaming wouldn't be available. and glitching is very possible. Birth defects, chemical reactions, etc. Not the ordinary kind but yes things that arent supposed to happen in out minds that is. What if i told you there was a new world order that controlled everything, and were are sacrifices for its pitiful game? would you believe me, probably not. But rationally this is most likely true, but can we prove it? No we can't and thats the sad part of this philosophy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joshua 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2006 I've actually thought about this quite a lot... to be honest, sometimes I start to think that this whole world is a massive RPG. But you know why I don't believe this is true? No RespawningNo known glitchesThe world never "lags"The graphics technology required to power such a realistic simulation would have to be more powerful then almost anything in the universe. Especially when you consider it is not just "our world" that exists.However, there is some truth as to this matter of us being controlled like a Sims game: A group of Scientists have recently tried to prove the belief that we all have free will. However, they are so far unable to prove it, due to the discovery that the mind makes decisions seconds before we are conscious of our decisions. Interesting. Yet we can examine ourselves to find out what those decisions were, and even though we don't know our thoughts of mind and heart that well, we can better by examining ourself. And by doing so, we can become more conscious of our decisions and thus seek to change them.  I suppose the argument is if our mind makes decisions before we are conscious of them we can't have free will. But aren't those mind decisions often made based on the conscious choices or decisions made moments before? So even though we may not be conscious of the decision, it is based on the free will choice of what to think about a moment before.  So say I'm not conscious of what decision my mind just made about reading this. But then because of reading this I think about it and think, and based on thorough deliberation decide to examine who I am in further detail and what makes me tick. That choice to do so may have been made before I had "conscious" knowledge of it but was still made because of my conscious decision based on deliberation to pursue a given topic. We are always free to deliberate and think over something, which I think renders that "mind makes decisions seconds before we are conscious of them" a moot point....  Did that make any sense? lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheArrow 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2006 I'm surprised you likened this to the Sims, and not to a more appropriate match like the Matrix.Our bodies are all really plugged in to a great artificial intelligence grid where they harvest our body heat for power, and our brains are plugged in to a giant simulation world called the matrix. The matrix simulates this entire world we're living in right now, so we wouldn't know any different.There are glitches in the matrix, though. Every time you experience a Deja Vu, the code in the matrix repeated itself. And of course, there are rogue programs and the One, but we won't get into that on these forums Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nani Cheri 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2006 I know Sims 2 is a great game, but damn people...you can never compare a game with an humnbeings life. We can't be controlled, we have our own mind. It's not like someone can click on the fridge and we go and start eating. All the things happening in your life you have control over, except faith. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matto 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2006 We're not comparing the game the sims directly to real life. we're just imagining the concepts that are present within the sims in real life. quite fun.And the person who posted about no respawning points... that really cracked me up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gameratheart 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2006 And the person who posted about no respawning points... that really cracked me up Yeah, that was me. And I laughed when I first thought of it aswell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites