Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas Come to talk about this game

[Moody 0]

San Andreas is a great game, I just think the graphics are not as good as they could be. You see the bloks in game. The graphics are just the same as in VC.

[Herbert1405241469 0]

Well it really depends on your graphics card I would assume. I know that the view distance seems farther than in Vice City (which I assume is due to the fact that they made faster planes available that can fly higher). Graphically, though, it is a lot like VC, but there's more variety. That's what makes it cool is that there are various environments you have access to. You have the ghetto, you've got hillbilly wilderness, Nevada-like desert, and Las Vegas casino city (lit up at night, truly an awesome sight).San Andreas just seems to have a life about it.

[Jeigh1405241495 0]

The game doesn't look much better then vice because the PS2 couldn't handle much better since its already an amazing accomplishment that the game runs like it does on that system. Therefor if we wanted COMPLETELY redone and pimped out graphics we'd have to wait like a year extra for it to be ported to PC/Xbox, which frankly I'm more then willing to take a graphics hit in order to have it already. Graphics are nice but gameplay is more important as long as the graphics arn't damaging the gameplay.Oh and about the hot coffee mod, of course its only good for a few laughs. I mean... assuming reports that its actual code are true... it was obviously just a joke some coders built into the game and there was a REASON the code was left unused, itwas just there for fun, not meant to be implemented and "forced" onto kids like the media is making it sound.

[Herbert1405241469 0]

The game doesn't look much better then vice because the PS2 couldn't handle much better since its already an amazing accomplishment that the game runs like it does on that system. Therefor if we wanted COMPLETELY redone and pimped out graphics we'd have to wait like a year extra for it to be ported to PC/Xbox, which frankly I'm more then willing to take a graphics hit in order to have it already. Graphics are nice but gameplay is more important as long as the graphics arn't damaging the gameplay.

 

Oh and about the hot coffee mod, of course its only good for a few laughs. I mean... assuming reports that its actual code are true... it was obviously just a joke some coders built into the game and there was a REASON the code was left unused, itwas just there for fun, not meant to be implemented and "forced" onto kids like the media is making it sound.

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Firstly, it was already ported onto PC (which is the version I have.... I had to wait for it for a year )

Secondly, this game isn't for "kids." The game is graphic enough as it is without that mod that anyone under the age of 18 should not play it. I was surprised on how many times they dropped the F* bomb in comparison to Vice City seeing as how Vice City was (loosely) based off of Scarface, which has the record number of F*bombs in a single movie, I believe.

[jipman 0]

Does anyone know how the worldsize of San andreas compares to that of Vice City? I know vice city had quite a size when compared back to GTA 3, So if it kept going up it should be 2 or 3 times the size in Vicecity, anyone who can confirm or deny that?

[Jeigh1405241495 0]

Herbert I know it's on pC...thats the version I have. I meant if they were to make the graphics BETTER they would have taken 6-12 months LONGER then they did to port it probably.And I know its not for kids, I was referring to the arguments that are being made about the hot coffee mod in relation to GTA-SA and how they say they forced this material unwillingly unto children and whatnot, its retarded but the argument has been made.Jipman - As far as size goes, I kept hearing the size "3 times larger" but I think that just refers to the fact that there is 3 cities, each of equal size to that in VC (well give or take) so you have 3 times more urban area PLUS all the rural areas in between.

[Padsgoo 0]

I was riding the "I hate GTA" bandwagon before I played San Andreas. The few first minutes playing this game, I was convinced that I shouldn't of have been on that wagon. San Andreas has a lot of content plus the story isn't bad either. I definetly liked the part of the game where you were in the middle of a gang war and you would have to take over rival gang territories. I kinda wish though that they would have that mini sex game when I first played it.

[Herbert1405241469 0]

And I know its not for kids, ....and how they say they forced this material unwillingly unto children and whatnot

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If a kid can't play it, even if it had dolphin's with Kung Fu, there's no way for a kid to be forced to see this either way. You can't be forced to see anything if you aren't watching it

 

Now, if you mean that kids are "illegally" getting this game, then they aren't being "forced" either, because they have to go on the internet, do a search, download the mod, and install it.

 

I agree with you on the fact that it's all bull. I just read an article on actiontrip.com saying that the ESRB has changed the game's rating from M to AO (Adults Only, which is basically to be put in the Porn section). Now they have to make a patch that will disable the possibility of using the Hot Coffee mod, and they have to halt production of the current version and start producing a new M version without the locked Coffee content.

[Neverseen 0]

I'd have to disagree with you on all but the coffee mod. I agree, that hot coffee mod isn't really even worth it for more than a couple laughs.

 

With San Andreas takes some getting used to. The characters are memorable (I really like Woozie  ), and you get to know the areas more as you explore. You can't get used to it all in a day, it takes time. You want to talk about too big, Morrowind was too big! Everything looked the same, and if you wanted to get from one end of the map to the other (besides using those teleports), you'd better have some decent spells and a couple of HOURS to spare! 

 

It's not "impossible" to get from one end to the other. Heck, I'm planning on making a crosscountry bike ride through the state so I can see anything I've missed. Plus, that's the freedom they give you; if you want to get someplace in a hurry go ahead and USE AN AIRPLANE  (Parachuting is an awesome too, btw ).

 

And this isn't all one city... You have three cities inside of the STATE of San Andreas. So take take your time in each city, getting used to it like you had to for Vice City.

 

And I must say, I have LOTS of fun without cheats    Cheats are for those who don't want to improve their skills. Practice doesn't make perfect, but it eliminates a lot of mistakes. Perfection is another matter entirely.

 

I can understand not everyone likes this game, but I think Rockstar is really moving the gaming industry ahead in what is possible in a video game.

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hehe exactly my thoughs here )

[Jeigh1405241495 0]

It pisses me off more then I can put into words about the AO rating. It's an illegal modification of game content to unlock this stuff. Just because it became widely available doesn't mean that the content is there for peoeple to just stumble upon. The ones who say they are intentionally putting this kind of material in the hands of minors should get slapped around a bit. It's rediculous. I mean sure Rockstar should have known to completely take it out, but at the same time from a coders perspective I can understand why they'd assume no one would ever find tthe code so just disabled it as a quicker solution. Frankly I think its a *BLEEP* deal they got, luckily they've already sold enough copies to allow this to not even phase them much haha.

[Herbert1405241469 0]

It makes you wonder how people can find this supposedly locked content. I mean how do they just come up and think "Well, let's see if they have any locked content... specifically a sex mini-game." I mean, if they had no previous knowledge of any such mini-games, what urged them to even look? I mean there were no such hidden games in any other of the GTA's (that I know of). The hookers in GTA 3 and VC didn't have a mini-game, so why would they have some for San Andreas?The only logical thing I can think of is that it was an accident. Someone took their hex editor or whatever they use to peel apart these games, and they stumbled upon either some code, or the sound effects, or some textures or something.Anyway, I'm ticked off about this too. I mean they didn't make Tomb Raider AO when someone made those Nude Patches for it. And that game is only rated T! (A game that is more available to "kids" than San Andreas!)Then I was watching The Jacket last night, and going through the deleted scene commentary, the director (British, I believe) made some comment about an alternative "love making" scene that the American audience didn't like, and said he felt America was becoming too puritan! HAHA, if only we were... in the right areas I'd take nudity over violence any day!

[Herbert1405241469 0]

On a similar topic... as if one game wasn't enough, the lawyer that started the business with the Hot Coffee Mod is going after The Sims 2. Why do I feel like I'm in the middle of the McCarthy Era all of a sudden??
They have an article on Gamespot's site
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/sims-2-content-worse-than-hot-coffee/1100-6129609/
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Here's some selections from the article:
Miami attorney Jack Thompson claims cheat codes make EA's life sim a pedophile's paradise by showing genitalia; calls for ban on T-rated game....

In the statement, Thompson says, "Sims 2, the latest version of the Sims video game franchise ... contains, according to video game news sites, full frontal nudity, including nipples, penises, labia, and pubic hair."

He cites a cheat code that can remove the blur that covers the nether regions. "The nudity placed there by the publisher/maker, Electronic Arts, is accessed by the use of a simple code that removes what is called 'the blur' which obscures the genital areas. In other words, the game was released to the public by the manufacturer knowing that the full frontal nudity was resident on the game and would be accessed by use of a simple code widely provided on the Internet."

It's not just the adults that are liberated from their wardrobes. Sims kids can also be nudified, "much to the delight, one can be sure, of pedophiles around the globe who can rehearse, in virtual reality, for their abuse."
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If I do remember correctly, they also had a mod that removed the blur from the original Sims... This guy's going to ruin a lot of people's lives before anyone wakes up around here... McCarthyism at it's best

[Jeigh1405241495 0]

HOLY **********************You don't know how much this pisses me off because I KNEW this would happen as soon as the ESRB changed the GTA SAn An rating to an AO :| I mean sure, change their rating, it ACTUALLY had the mature content in there so its justifiable, but now dumbtards who don't understand what the difference between the original code and modded code is, are going to start attacking every game that has a mod that lets you get nude stuff. I can only iamgine the flood of Tomb Raider, DOA Extreme volleyball, ALL fps, etc games that are about to get attacked for content that some teenage dude who hasn't been laid and likely wont be for a long time created :|But yes if they start actually giving these types of complaints any power to change stuff then gaming is hereby seeing the beginning of its darkest days. I can just iamgine... trying to ban a game because it had a pretty girl in it...a girl whom some random guy hand drew a picture of naked... and since it obvious encouraged him to do this... BANNED IN ALL COUNTRIES WHERE PEOPLE HAVE EYES OMGOMGOMGSo yes, this all pisses me off...so if I said anything in this post that was offensive language wise or didn't make sense... I apologize for I'm ranting in frustration GRAAAAH

[Herbert1405241469 0]

Finally some SENSE! Quote from an EA spokesman in response to that lawyer accusing EA of bad stuff in "The Sims 2":

âThis is nonsense,â said Jeff Brown, spokesman for EA. â...Reasonable people recognise what mods are. A consumer who chooses to use a mod does so without any kind of agreement with the company. There is no nudity. There is nothing improper or vulgar in the Sims 2.â

Brown continued, âReasonable people understand the San Jose Mercury News is not responsible for vulgar things that people doodle into the margins of the paper.â

Source:
http://spong.com/article/8961/Electronic-Arts-Slams-Sims-2-Paedophile-Claims

[iGuest 3]

GTA is evil, EVIL I TELLS YE! It brings out the evil in all of us. I meant in the form of gaming.San Andreas was fun when I first played it but now, it kind of sucks. I mean, it's too repetitive, especially the missions.