Tsunami 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2006 Believe it or not, Imaginary numbers are actually a very REAL thing. No, Some crazy man DIDNT make them up. and yes, you can see them... Imaginary numbers are a result of Radicals. Radicals are Square Roots. Every type of number has a square root... except Negatives (-). Negative Square Roots are actually what make imaginary numbers. Since there is no squareroot for a regular number, the number is said to be 'imaginary'. We represent imaginary numbers with 'i' (usually in some form of script or cursive handwriting). This 'i' actually equals the square root of -1. So if we have to find a negatives square root, we just divide by -1 to cancel out the negative and then multiply the whole thing by 'i'. Lets look at an example The Square root of -25 is not -5. The square root of -25 is actually 5i. Lets see how i did it: (i am going to use V?() as the squareroot symbol)V?(-25) --> V?(25)i --> 5iWhat i did was i divided -25 by -1 to give me 25. I put that back inside the square root symbol and then i mulitplied the square root of 25 by 'i'. Thats pretty much it. here are some other problems just for clarification:V?(-8) = 2iV?(2)V?(-9) = 3iV?(-16) = 4iV?(-81) = 9i Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DogEater008 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2006 i'm not sure myself, but i think you need to clear up your definition to real numbers. Real numbers are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 ... , not 5"i". The "i" is still considered as part of the number; therefore, you cannot call 5i a real number. That's why we called it imaginary, because we have no idea what it is. lol.. and they taught you this in alegbra 3 & 4 in highschool. But i heard from my brother, when you get into higher math, they will go deeper into what exactly is imaginary number. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dooga 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2006 Well I already knew that, but I do have to thank you for telling me a way to make the square root sign without using some weird symbol! Thanks :)But wait, what's the third symbol you used? You know, the one with the opposite underscore...And this is my 1000th post... lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsunami 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2006 Roflmao at least someone learned somthign from my post >.< its alt+0175 to make ?... and i learned it in Algebra 2 and i know that 'i' is considered apart of the number, because 'i' is not a variable that you have to 'find out' its value, it has a value already that is un-conventional at best :-p ... I actually took algebra 2 last semester XD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tdktank59 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2006 i leanred this in algebra 2... and i got confused with it so lol... im taking the class again to figure it out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
no9t9 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2006 This is pretty simple actually. the square root of any negative number is UNDEFINED. what the imaginary number is doing is simply factoring out the square root of negative 1 so the remainder can be defined.i, or the imaginary number, is just a concept to be able to manipulate mathematical equations. It is undefined just like infinity. It can't really exist for us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontmaimyourself 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2006 I seem to remember my Physics teacher explaining this to me, I didn't really understand it then, maybe it was the fact that it was first thing on a Monday morning (which my don't sleep on Sunday/Monday plan didn't really cater for) but now you've explained it here it seems pretty simple, you don't find the square root of the nagative number you just imagine it to be a real number, this of course makes the answer imaginary (I think thats it anyway), well thanks for the help, have you ever considered teaching? or at least tutoring, you could make some money from stupid people like me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jlhaslip 4 Report post Posted August 5, 2006 And they make some pretty cool looking shapes when they are graphed using Polar Co-ordinates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanblood 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2007 OK there were some wrong things said it is like this. Imaginary numbers then real numbers then natural numbers. and not real as first and then imaginary.Also they can be seen either as fractals they are really nice when represented with some fractal function.But they are usually represented in bipole coordinate system or as it is mostly known to everyone x y axis. In which y axis is actually changed for the imaginary numbers and as imaginary numbers are made of two parts real part and imaginary part you represent imaginary part on y axis and x part will then make real axis and you can see them that is why there is also other representation of the imaginary numbers with the distance from origin and angle with the x axis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alexkeyne 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2007 basically the square root of -1 (negative one) is taken as i and is considered an imaginary and all other square roots of a negative number can be reduced to i. So we might consider i to be the only imaginary number. Its applications lie in Mathematics and Physics, with true practical applicaions at their most advanced levels. Not something we need to worry ourselves over Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MickE 0 Report post Posted December 26, 2007 I remember my lecturers telling me that under no circumstances we may ever write sqrt(some negative) it does not exist, it is impossible. it is true that i?=-1 but that's something differentyou can think of this as a plane, the x axis is the real axis (a+i*b -> a is the real part) and the y-axis is the imaginary axis (b is the imaginary part) so if you have i as a number, you end up on the imaginary axis. this can be seen as a rotation of the unity point ( 1+i*0 or 1) this is a rotation over 90?, if you do this again (i*i) you rotate again over 90?, so you end up at -1 (+i*0) so you can write i?=-1, but the square root of a negative number... that does not exist! but this is rather advanced Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
musicmaza 0 Report post Posted December 26, 2007 This is very simple and I knew already knew it,i studied this 5 years ago and I still use imaginary numbers in my studies.But this topic is helpful for those who haven't studied imaginary numbers or know very little about it.Well this is really good topic about imaginary numbers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
suberatu 0 Report post Posted December 27, 2007 Informative post, unfortunately I pretty much knew things contained in there prior to reading it. I do however have two questions.1) I once saw a problem in a precalculus textbook asking to find the square root of i. How would one go about figuring this out this?2) I'm not sure if complex numbers are outside the scope of this topic, but what are they exactly? I remember once hearing someone talk about graphing 3 dimensional objects (e.g.: a cube) on the complex plane. He said that it might seem strange to do this at first, but it is sometimes done in certain sciences (like physics) not to measure the objects, but to measure degree of complexity ( ). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jlhaslip 4 Report post Posted December 27, 2007 Complex Numbers are mathematical elements which are (somewhat) connected to Imaginary Numbers.I'll let you discover the concepts yourself from this Wikipedia link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_numberIt has been a long time since I have dealt with any of this stuff, so I might make an error trying to explain what I know (or is that 'knew'?)To me, Imaginary Numbers are the ones missing on your Pay Cheque... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites