Frames!

[zach101 0]

Okay guys a freind of mine is building a web site and he asked me for help on this matter:
http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/ well it looks lovely and all but then when u click on home and scroll down the main frame well u will see..... he uses java script because the links below are links but its in that coordinate map frame thing because its really a picture so how do I make it that it opens up the home page and not like the entire index file into that frame??

[Tyssen 0]

Tell him to lose the frames. There's much better ways of achieving the same effects/results and search engines don't like them.

[icemarle 0]

Well, frames generally cause much of the problems on sites. I can atest to that, because I once used frames, and it sure caused a lot of problems! You may suggest your friend to use a site with more tables, and less frames. Plus, I agree with Tyssen. Using frames can affect your site being found in search engines, unless you don't really care much about people visiting your site, then it's OK. Another thing, frames generally tend to have problems when bookmarked. Plus, in badly designed pages, frames don't go away when you leave the framed site. Sigh... Of course, frames can be very pretty when utilized by an experienced and a good web designer, but if you want to lose as much problems as possible, lose the frames. Geh, I think I just ranted about frames again. *Come on icemarle, you have to take your diagnosis to prevent sudden explosions of frameophobia!* Sorry, I'm in a happy mood right now.

[rvalkass 5]

Frames are a bad idea, as everyone has said. Use divs and spans etc if possible or tables if you really have to. If for some unbeknown reason you must use frames, then I think you have to set the target of the link to _top, e.g:

<a target="_top" href="http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/ that helps.

[sonorama 0]

Let me see if I understood: what have to do (if i did understand) is to target the links in the menu. i.e:

 

for the main frame: '_mainframe'

for the top page: '_top'

for a parent site: '_parent'

for a new blank window: '_blank'

 

Well... I do not like frames either, by the way, I guess (as someone said before) search enginees just do not like that, for example, if you search the web for an item, and your item is in the main.html or main.php, they will show the results by showing only the main.html or main.php page, but not the entire site...

 

Anyways, I hope it helps...

 

Cheers!

[arboc7 0]

I agree that frames are terrible! They are the absolute last thing you should use...if you want to use the next-generation of frames, it would be called AJAX. There's a lot of sites that are using it now, most notable of which are Google Maps and Google Suggest.Remember, Frames = EVIL!!

[zach101 0]

Well i got it fixed. However guys thanks for that info on frames i really dint know that nice info to have though. I do like tables but i dont know that much about them is there a site that talks just about various table commands and what not? So I asume that the advantage to using tables is that A. easier for search engines B. everything u want to edit on your webpage is right there on that one page instead of the lings page and the main page and the heading page etc... right? I think im correct on that please correct me if im wrong. Also tables are tottaly customizable? I dint know they had THAT many uses, any way thanks for the comment and a good site on tables = awesome

[Tyssen 0]

Even websites that use frames are usually made with tables as well.

tables = awesome

Well, no, not really. Tables are old news and their use as a tool for laying out has been contrary to the purpose for which they were originally created - to present tabular data. You should do a bit of Googling on XHTML/CSS and see the possibilities that they provide - now that's awesome.