kvarnerexpress 0 Report post Posted April 27, 2005 Many fans (over 83% in a 2002 survey) hold on to the belief that Tupac Shakur may still be alive. There are many suspicious details about his departure that contribute to this.The uncontested facts:After leaving the Tyson fight on Saturday September 7, 1996, Tupac was alledgedly shot 5 times. He lived through the shooting and was taken to a nearby hospital. He was pronounced dead on Friday September 13, 1996.The suspicious facts:Friday the 13th is a very suspicious day. There were never any pictures released of Tupac in the hospital. In the song "Life Goes On", Tupac raps about his own funeral. The driver of the car in which Tupac was riding, Suge Knight (the executive producer of Death Row Records), didn't show up for questioning about the shooting. The video "I ain't Mad at Cha" was released only a few days after his death. "I ain't Mad at Cha" is track 13 on the album All Eyes On Me. The video shows Tupac as an angel in heaven. In the video, Tupac was shot after leaving a theater with a friend, which is very similar to how he was shot in real life. Interestingly, Tupac dies in his last video released under the name "2Pac". His new video "Toss It Up" from the new album was released under the name "Makaveli". The second video to be released by the name Makaveli is "To Live and Die in L.A." But how could they shoot the second video when he is "dead". Was the video really shot 4 months before his death, back in August of '96?In the video "Hail Mary" released under the name Makaveli, there is a gravestone that says Makaveli. But the gravestone is cracked and there is a hole right in front of it, inferring that Makaveli rose from the dead.A shooting involving Snoop Doggy Dogg occured close to the release of his album Doggystyle. The shooting made Snoop appear more "real" and showed his fans that he really was a gangsta. The shooting gave him respect because everyone that bought his album believed what he was talking about. Within one week of its release, Doggystyle went platnium. Snoop was signed to the same label as Tupac which is Death Row Records.In December '96, Tupac's new album went platinum. In interviews prior to the shooting, Tupac talked about how he wanted to stop rapping and being a gangsta and get out of the limelight. What is the only way Tupac could completly escape the media spotlight ??? (Answer: if the public thought he was dead.) Press wasn't going to be allowed at the funeral, but then the funeral was cancelled for unknown reasons.Tupac always wore a bulletproof vest, no matter where he went. Why did he remove it at a very public event like a Tyson fight? In most of his songs he talks about being buried, so why was he allegedly cremated the day after he "died"? And since when do they cremate someone the day after death in a murder case? Tupac's alias is Makaveli. Though the spelling is different, Machiavelli was a 16th century italian philosopher who advocated the staging of one's death in order to evade one's enemies and gain power. In Machiavelli's book Discourses Upon the First Ten Books of Titus Livy, in Book 2 Chapter XIII he says "a prince who wishes to achieve great things must learn to deceive". This is Machiavelli's main idea and is the connection between Tupac and the writings of Machiavelli.Tupac studied Machiavelli in depth while in prision was a fan and had read his books several times. Perhaps Tupac is taking his advice. Machiaveli wrote two books before his death. Look at what the All Eyez on Me disks are called.. Machiavelli's books were called, "Book 1," and, "Book 2." The CD's of, "All Eyez On Me," are entitled the sameOne of Machiavelli's books is, "Discourses Upon The First Ten Books Of Titus Livy," which it's claimed Tupac read in jail. In Book 2, Chapter XIII He says, "a prince who wishes to achieve great things must learn to decieve..." This is very similar to verses in some of Tupac's songs.Some say that Tupac modified the Machiavelli name because if you rearrange the letters, they spell, "Am Alive," or, "I Am Alive."The title of the new album by Makaveli (Tupac) is The 7 Day Theory. He was shot on September 7th; and survived on the 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and"died" the 13th. Hence the title The 7 Day Theory.Tupac's album All Eyes on Me was released on Feb.13, 1996. Tupac "died" on Sept.13, 1996. It is quite a coincidence that the two dates are exactly 7 months apart.Tupac officially died at 4:03 PM. 4+3 = 7 Also he "died" at an age of 25 years. 2+5 = 7. It seems as if seven is Tupac's number.Suspicious? mabye but just tell me what you think Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mbd5882 0 Report post Posted April 27, 2005 Ok hes still alive, I still beleve that[i already did], Where did this come from? It must have tacken u ages too do it. Anyway...Good post, Welldone........... Many fans (over 83% in a 2002 survey) hold on to the belief that Tupac Shakur may still be alive. There are many suspicious details about his departure that contribute to this. The uncontested facts: After leaving the Tyson fight on Saturday September 7, 1996, Tupac was alledgedly shot 5 times. He lived through the shooting and was taken to a nearby hospital. He was pronounced dead on Friday September 13, 1996. The suspicious facts: Friday the 13th is a very suspicious day. There were never any pictures released of Tupac in the hospital. In the song "Life Goes On", Tupac raps about his own funeral. The driver of the car in which Tupac was riding, Suge Knight (the executive producer of Death Row Records), didn't show up for questioning about the shooting. The video "I ain't Mad at Cha" was released only a few days after his death. "I ain't Mad at Cha" is track 13 on the album All Eyes On Me. The video shows Tupac as an angel in heaven. In the video, Tupac was shot after leaving a theater with a friend, which is very similar to how he was shot in real life. Interestingly, Tupac dies in his last video released under the name "2Pac". His new video "Toss It Up" from the new album was released under the name "Makaveli". The second video to be released by the name Makaveli is "To Live and Die in L.A." But how could they shoot the second video when he is "dead". Was the video really shot 4 months before his death, back in August of '96? In the video "Hail Mary" released under the name Makaveli, there is a gravestone that says Makaveli. But the gravestone is cracked and there is a hole right in front of it, inferring that Makaveli r............................................................................... 135193[/snapback] Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ameribass 0 Report post Posted April 27, 2005 Very interesting. You posted a lot of interesting information. I love mysteries! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elevenmil 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2005 I am not really aware of the whole deal with his death, yet I'm a big fan of his music. I do in fact believe he is dead, but who knows? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
psyfish 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2005 I'm not sure what to believe. The post that you posted is verry convincing although a lot of it could be coincidinces. When I first read the post I thought you were just parranoid but now I'm not sure. I think the name is just a coincidence same with the number thing, and I'm sure lots of celebrities don't want their funural televised but a few of the things I couldn't explain, so I'm not sure what to think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoulFlower 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2005 I'm his fun, but I don't think so. I'm sure that he's dead.You must watch doc movie about him - MTV production 2pac-Resurection Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ill 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2005 ..and if faked it, as you say, he must of did it for a reason. which was most likely that he did not like being in the limelight, therefore grant his wishes, leave him alone! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
outlawspirit 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2005 ok, let me put it like this...Tupac Amaru Shakur wanted us to beleive he is dead or he is dead... so Rest In Peace either way...im a real fan of tupac i mean, i run my own site dedicated to the memory of Yaki Kadafi & Tupac Shakur (http://outlawspirit.com/) but yea, i really beleive Tupac is gone and if not... he livin it up somewhere and he isnt coming back... a legend... rest in peace yak n pac1 nation1 thug Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nani Cheri 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2005 DEAD OR NOT DEAD...It doesnt matter, he made good music and he still got it goin on! Reality is wrong. Dreams are for real. Tupac Shakur OH YEAH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nani Cheri 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2005 ..and if faked it, as you say, he must of did it for a reason. which was most likely that he did not like being in the limelight, therefore grant his wishes, leave him alone! 135647[/snapback] You just take those wise words outta my mouth boy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clagnol 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2005 My quotes aren't working. Whatever. Friday the 13th is a very suspicious day.No, it's not.There were never any pictures released of Tupac in the hospital.But here's an autopsy photo (warning, though it is not very graphic, it is still a picture of a dead man who has been cut up a bit, so if you are prone to be offended, or are too young to view such materials in your area, please refrain from clicking the link).In the song "Life Goes On", Tupac raps about his own funeral.Lots of rappers do this. It's because most of them grew up in a culture of death, where young black men have very short lifespans.The driver of the car in which Tupac was riding, Suge Knight (the executive producer of Death Row Records), didn't show up for questioning about the shooting.Suge Knight is a criminal, in every sense of the word. Of course he fears the police.The video "I ain't Mad at Cha" was released only a few days after his death. "I ain't Mad at Cha" is track 13 on the album All Eyes On Me. The video shows Tupac as an angel in heaven. In the video, Tupac was shot after leaving a theater with a friend, which is very similar to how he was shot in real life.My sources say that he was killed while talking to women at an intersection.Interestingly, Tupac dies in his last video released under the name "2Pac". His new video "Toss It Up" from the new album was released under the name "Makaveli". The second video to be released by the name Makaveli is "To Live and Die in L.A." But how could they shoot the second video when he is "dead". Was the video really shot 4 months before his death, back in August of '96?Yes.In the video "Hail Mary" released under the name Makaveli, there is a gravestone that says Makaveli. But the gravestone is cracked and there is a hole right in front of it, inferring that Makaveli rose from the dead.Perhaps Tupac is a zombie?A shooting involving Snoop Doggy Dogg occured close to the release of his album Doggystyle. The shooting made Snoop appear more "real" and showed his fans that he really was a gangsta. The shooting gave him respect because everyone that bought his album believed what he was talking about. Within one week of its release, Doggystyle went platnium. Snoop was signed to the same label as Tupac which is Death Row Records.Clearly, Snoop Dogg killed Tupac.In December '96, Tupac's new album went platinum. In interviews prior to the shooting, Tupac talked about how he wanted to stop rapping and being a gangsta and get out of the limelight. What is the only way Tupac could completly escape the media spotlight ??? (Answer: if the public thought he was dead.)Lots of entertainers talk about retiring into obscurity, but few of them do it voluntarily.Press wasn't going to be allowed at the funeral, but then the funeral was cancelled for unknown reasons. This website claims that Tupac had a small service in Las Vegas, then two other services.Tupac always wore a bulletproof vest, no matter where he went. Why did he remove it at a very public event like a Tyson fight?I'm not convinced that he always wore a bulletproof vest. It would be hot and constricting in many situations.In most of his songs he talks about being buried, so why was he allegedly cremated the day after he "died"? And since when do they cremate someone the day after death in a murder case?I imagine they cremated him after the coroner had finished his report on the body.Tupac's alias is Makaveli. Though the spelling is different, Machiavelli was a 16th century italian philosopher who advocated the staging of one's death in order to evade one's enemies and gain power. In Machiavelli's book Discourses Upon the First Ten Books of Titus Livy, in Book 2 Chapter XIII he says "a prince who wishes to achieve great things must learn to deceive". This is Machiavelli's main idea and is the connection between Tupac and the writings of Machiavelli.If Tupac really lived the life of Machiavelli's prince, it wouldn't be so hard to imagine that there would be a lot of people who want to kill him.Tupac studied Machiavelli in depth while in prision was a fan and had read his books several times. Perhaps Tupac is taking his advice. Machiaveli wrote two books before his death. Look at what the All Eyez on Me disks are called.. Machiavelli's books were called, "Book 1," and, "Book 2." The CD's of, "All Eyez On Me," are entitled the sameOne of Machiavelli's books is, "Discourses Upon The First Ten Books Of Titus Livy," which it's claimed Tupac read in jail. In Book 2, Chapter XIII He says, "a prince who wishes to achieve great things must learn to decieve..." This is very similar to verses in some of Tupac's songs.This is so not compelling.Some say that Tupac modified the Machiavelli name because if you rearrange the letters, they spell, "Am Alive," or, "I Am Alive."In what language? Try it yourself. It's missing letters.The title of the new album by Makaveli (Tupac) is The 7 Day Theory. He was shot on September 7th; and survived on the 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and"died" the 13th. Hence the title The 7 Day Theory.Tupac's album All Eyes on Me was released on Feb.13, 1996. Tupac "died" on Sept.13, 1996. It is quite a coincidence that the two dates are exactly 7 months apart.Tupac officially died at 4:03 PM. 4+3 = 7 Also he "died" at an age of 25 years. 2+5 = 7. It seems as if seven is Tupac's number.Wow, recurring numbers, huh? What are the odds? Pretty good, actually. Take any event and you'll be able to find a host of recurring numbers. We only have so many numbers, of course they're going to show up a few times.Suspicious? mabye but just tell me what you thinkNot at all. Next time you copy and paste some ridiculous conspiracy theory on the forum, choose something with better arguments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krap 0 Report post Posted April 29, 2005 I think he might be alive and who knows if the "autopsy picture" is real anyway? Some of the things like 2+5=7 and all that are just a coincedence i think but it's also true that in none of tupac's posthumous albums there is never an RIP message for him and his family haven't claimed his life insurance(they probably don't need it anyway- I'd guess they're pretty rich with all the albums..).RIP tupac (if he's not alive that is ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9block 0 Report post Posted July 18, 2007 Hes dead. It is a crack pot theory and while I respect the man, let it be known he is dead, while under suspicious circumstances. Look, if my alias was 9block and the corners office never released my body, perhaps I am actually LIVING 9blocks from the murder scene. Im sure you could rearrange nineblock to spell something else and sell that off as a metaphor. Give it up, the man is dead and biggie was better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
velma 6 Report post Posted July 18, 2007 Well the autopsy pictures can be morphed for in the end people still believe Elvis 'The King' Presley is alive and countless people still say that they have seen himWhether he is alive or not, whether he did the death thing for real or for a publicity stunt It is his life and his choice so I think we should respect his music ( I liked his music too) and leave his private life to be private.P.S. I liked both members evidence though. It was a good read Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hateheals 0 Report post Posted July 19, 2007 Could be possible,surprisingly all musicians die under mysterious circumstances,elvis,kurt cobain,jim morrison,michael hutchtance and the list goes on.Regarded as the greatest rapper ever,Tupac just MIGHT have faked his death to gain publicity,and that he did...the facts stated above indicate just that,although im not muchinto hiphop and rap,my plas mentioned this name a lot,so i felt inclined to post here.its a pity the heights people will go to get fame,even at the cost oftheir identety.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites