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  1. Authorization mismatch - please go back and try again. If you have been trying to access a function incorrectly, please use the proper method

     

    You have probably came across this error message. If you have not count your lucky stars. But for those who are still facing this annoying issue rest assure that we're woking on a solution as fast as we can. This error is not from upgrading our forum board to the recent 2.2.1 version but a new security feature called "stronghold" developed for this board by IPB company.

     

    Before we go on, let's discuss how stronghold is used with the board:

    when you log into the forum, an authorization key is created based on your registration date and your email

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    Proxy server can change your IP address without your knowledge. Whether you're using the actual proxy service or your ISP has you connected with their own proxy, this can cause sudden IP address change. Not all users might be effected but if you are an AOL user the rate of IP shift, reassign, is greater than those who are with other broadband services.

     

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    The error was reproduced when I tried to post this message the first time. It took me about 30 minutes to write and then poof it was gone. As further search went, I found that sometimes the session control is set to 3600 seconds from inactivity. So I am not sure if prolonged typing can cause my session cookies to become expire...?

     

    One thing is for sure, do not forget to log out before leaving our board. If the old session cookies exists and you're trying to post, the newely created cookies and old cookies will not match up. So in order to have valid session, you should log out to clear the old session cookies.

     

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    I'm just posting this as part of a test, to try and hammer out some random words while you're waking your dog from her (his?) stupor now ....


  2. The reason most people use windows is because it is very easy to use and everyone has been using it for a while. Macs, on the other hand, are becoming easier to loose but still are an Unix OS. If you have a mac, you will have to use the console quite often to do tasks unlike windows. Dont get me wrong, i am not saying windows is better. I currently am one 1 of my 3 computers of which i have windows on this one, linux on my laptop that i take to class, and Mac OSX_86 on my other desktop. I use all 3 so i am proficient in them and i love my Linux OS but for a novice it can be hard to pick up.

    I don't know what you're talking about with the Mac. I've never used the console. It's there if you're some kind of geek who gets thrills from opening the hood and digging in to the guts. If you don't know Unix, there's no reason in normal operation to open the console. There are some tweeks you can do, but usually they're outlined in the industry pubs like Mac Addict or Macworld and it's simple step-by-step instruction. I say, go Mac and never look back!
    MC: Windows for Mac isn't "virtual" anymore. Mac is running on Intel chips now so it's able to run Windoz like any other PC as an alternative boot. You download the free app from Apple called Bootcamp to do this. Alternatively, I think if you use "Parrellels" you can run Windoz in its own window while still running OSX at the same time. That, I suppose, could be considered "virtual". Anyway, I love my new Mac; it's stable, fast, and a joy to use and I never have to worry about spyware or viruses. It cost quite a bit, but I think there's good value there too with all the software it comes with. Let's just hope they stay small so the virus makers don't start looking our way... ;)

  3. I doubt I've been clear on this: I'm not arguing that peak oil won't happen. There's nothing on this planet that I can think of that doesn't have a beginning and an end. Nothing is infinite, especially oil. My argument is that we've not yet reached this "peak oil" the mainstream press keeps speaking of. The term is just another talking point used by the oil companies and it's repeated from there used to scare us into submission. I'd argue that they used the same scare mongering in the late 70's, or sometime in the 70's I don't remember, to manipulate the masses to demand smaller cars from the automakers. I don't know for sure, but I believe the introduction of unleaded fuel was brought forth in those last days of oil which caused them to create a known carcinogen almost impossible to remove from the water supply called MTBE which was finally outlawed just last year. There's always an agenda. They scare the herd to cause them to accept something more into their (our) environment that will cause more deaths. In the end, though, there's never really any substance to the lie and it's exposed. "Peak oil" makes some sense because it's something that obviously has a finite supply and isn't renewable like soybeans or trees. Even coal is renewable, but not on a scale that would do us any good. People can grasp this and with our short memories most people don't remember the last time this same scam was used to manipulate us, so they'll let it happen again. I'm only promoting the "theory" that "peak-oil" is a long way off, not because I'm ignoring the fact that less oil is being pulled out of the ground in America but for the possible fact that the oil in our ground is staying there by choice, not because it's expensive to extract.And Ethanol is a poor substitute (other than a 10% mix to increase octane to fill the hole left by lead and MTBE) because of its significantly lower BTU density (and the fact it would harm engines that aren't designed to burn it). I love bio-diesel and intend to manufacture some for my personal use from used fryer grease and according to some sources it actually has a better BTU density then petroleum diesel. It's very exciting and I think it may be possible to use bio-diesel to remove foreign oil from that fuel supply chain in America if it's planned right. BTW: An economics professor once told me (and my class) that statistics lie. I'm not impressed with graphs and charts; they mean nothing to me because they're used to selectively promote some numbers from some source but not other numbers from other sources. Statistics are used to promote lies, often with success. The only way to disprove peak-oil is the same way to prove it: Wait. Only time will tell, but we can look back in time to see that it's not bloody likely due to the fact it's been promoted before. We can also look at where this theory is emanating from and consider a potential conflict of interest. It's like saying that maybe gun control will stop violence, but not likely because it's never worked in all the past events where citizens were disarmed then slaughtered. But let's try it again. This time will be different. I'm not willing to take that chance. I understand that peak-oil won't end with genocide, but the debate is the same: ignoring past experiences while trying to predict future events. I'm sure someone important once said, "Those who ignore history are condemned to repeat it." I'm sure you know who said that. The definition of insanity is trying the same thing over and over again expecting a different result. Someone else said that, don't recall who.


  4. Ok, here's the situation. I've got a Belkin wireless 802.11n (pre-n) router and it works fine with it's own card in my Dell laptop. 108 Mbps all day long but I can't seem to get that kind of speed with my MBP C2D. I just downloaded and installed the $2 firmware update today and it's showing up in network utilities so I know it's active. I just changed the Belkin to 802.11g only thus giving b the boot. So, according to the software manual, it now will support g and n. What can I do to get the n speed with this thing? Thanks.


  5. I've just invested another couple hours on this topic if, for no other reason, to further educate myself on the dynamics involved with both sides of the debate. As I indicated in a prior post (if it survived the upgrade), there is a growing vocal group of people who are not buying the conventional wisdom. Much of that is due to the fact that our Russian brothers have concluded that there's an apparently inexhaustible supply of oil if you drill far enough. I'll list the links to the articles that I've perused these past two hours starting with Wikapedia who provides a thorough explanation of Hubbert's Theory of Peak Oil (Hubbert Peak Theory):

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_oil

    Followed by a couple articles written by a medical doctor:

    http://www.newswithviews.com/Monteith/stanley.htm

    http://www.newswithviews.com/Monteith/stanley1.htm

    And further reading in the general order it came up when Googled:

    https://mises.org/library/myth-peak-oil

    http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/

    http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/

    http://peakoildebunked.blogspot.de/

    http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/

    http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/Pages/Oct05/041005oil.htm

     

    While doing a Google search and copying links takes but a couple minutes, reading all those articles will take hours. My aim in this post isn't to prove anything or even argue my side, but to give you an indication that even a cursory search of the internet will show 932,000 hits for "peak oil myth" and in at least the first two pages, there are only two or three links that aren't relevant to the search. The rest will make for informative reading. And a theory for anyone who doesn't know is: "A supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained." According to Oxford American Dictionary.

    While a "Law" is an entirely other animal: "A statement of fact, deduced from observation, to the effect that a particular natural or scientific phenomenon if certain conditions are present: The second law of thermodynamics. Why do I bring this up? Because any schmuck can have theories, but a theory can be disproved, usually without too much effort, and when enough scrutiny has assailed said theory and it can stand up to the rigors of repeated experimentation it may then become law. Even Einstein still has theories that haven't yet stood the test of the scientific community i.e. Theory of Relativity. An honest resercher/scientist wouldn't be afraid of exposing their theories to the scrutiny of the scientific community let alone a meager forum like this one. There's some real eye-opening information in the above sampling. I'd suggest anyone with some time to spare read at least the first three or four links (excluding the entire Wikipedia write-up).


  6. Well it looks like our posts were inadvertently erased with the upgrade and I barely remember exactly how I was going to respond to your posts. If you happen to have saved your write-ups please post them, otherwise we'll just have to try and hammer it out. While you're posts were flattering enough to shut me up, I still think I had a couple things to say. For instance, while I'm leaning toward reincarnation, I am not completely vested since I have little if any evidence and lots of time to sort it out. It makes the most sense for me of all the alternatives. Regarding brick walls and jungle foliage, I think it's the texture... Something to do with the texture that makes it easier to blend in. Sorry I didn't save all that. I didn't realize it was an issue, maybe before they do major work like that in the future, they'd be well advised to warn us all a week in advance to save what's important to us.


  7. Please refer to this quote made earlier in the topic.

    Patronizing me isn't "helpful". "Wazzup" was rhetorical. What I really meant was, "Can someone please adjust my credits appropriately?"

    As you can see the forums were upgraded and had a few techincal problems. All is explained here in this link.
    http://forums.xisto.com/topic/44843-forum-upgrade-to-version-221/

    Thank you for the link. I understand that defecation occurs occasionally without warning and it can be messy.
    Entire threads were lost, though, some of which I was involved. While it's not the end of the world, I was, I think, understandably a bit upset about loosing a third of my few precious credits. I would rather one of the admins donated me about 20 credits, but thank you for the offer.

    A few credits lost is better than what bigger problems could have happened. If you feel though that you must have those credits, I'm sure I could spare you a few if you'd like once I get mine in order. Send me a Personal Message once they are working if you would like a few to spare.


  8. Notice they have something in common? Decline, decline decline. And that doesn't go away because some stammering, pompous fool reads a 6 1/2 year old debunked news article.

    You're obviously very invested in your position in this debate (noun: A formal discussion on a particular topic in a public meeting or legislative assembly, in which opposing arguments are put forward.) but, unfortunately, you're also very emotionally vested as well. This is for the benefit of the audience that may wander by and take notice so they'll be informed enough to either do further research or make a rational, educated, informed opinion for themselves after considering both sides. By resorting to a personal attack/insult, you've removed all credibility from your side of the argument and shown yourself to be someone who has spent so much time researching one topic you've apparently lost the ability to accept that you might possibly be wrong. I've currently spent all of an hour combined on my side and, while, that's not nearly enough to go up against months of research, it's all I could muster at the time because I've got better things to do. I'll attempt to invest more time and research in the topic, but this will end here if I don't get a retraction from you for your last sentence in the above post and a humble apology.

  9. Apple and MS are like two nations who are in competition but rely upon each other for certain things they can't do for themselves. For instance, Apple is the only thing, probably, coming between MS the demise AT&T met when they were forced to split up due to the monopoly they had. The Feds aren't afraid to come after MS as was seen during the Klinton Administration. MS, on the other hand, has on its campus the largest Apple Group of software engineers outside of Apple itself. If Apple were to sue MS, MS would respond by selling off billions of $$$ of Apple's stock and shutting down all Apple-related software research and development. They'd probably buy Adobe and sack all their Apple development people too, which would cause Apple's stock to dive like a rock in the ocean. It would cause more damage for something like this to take place and this way, people know Apple's innovations lead the industry which gives it good press and causes it's stocks to continue to rise and they've got halos over their heads and can do nothing wrong in the eyes of the authorities. I own both platforms including a new Mac laptop (MBP 2.33 MHz C2D 17" 2GB/160GB) and I couldn't be happier since I'm not a big game player - if I were I'd buy a Mac work station loaded and a copy of Windoz for the gaming side of things. I am really not fond of MS except for their Apple-Office products.


  10. Public schools and the Department of Education are leading America straight to the height of stupidity. We're falling behind faster than ever compared to the rest of the world. Those are facts. Look them up if you don't believe me. I went to all public schools, btw. It's the private schools and home schoolers who are saving a little tiny number of people from living in complete blissful ignorance. So you can go ahead and hate them, despise them, be jealous of them, but take the time some day to thank them for working so hard so you didn't have to.

     

    What did you learn today?


  11. I've done both projection and obe, but they were performed when it was natural for me to do it, when I was a child. I was also able to make myself invisible in a manner of speaking. If a camera was there, it'd have taken my picture, but I was able to remove myself from the vision of single people as well as groups. I was a senior in high school trapped skipping advanced biology (because it bored the crap out of me) in the back room where I was waiting to escape after getting a hold of the attendance form the teacher hung out to be collected. In order to skip, and get away with it, I had to get a hold of that form and erase the filled in bubble so the computer wouldn't count the absence and leave without being seen before it made its way to the admin office. I was in between cabinets full of glassware when I heard the tell-tale sound of my teacher's cowboy boots approaching and there was no where for my to go. I focused on making myself a natural part of the environment thus not drawing his glance by turning and reaching for an implement on one of the top shelves while standing on a two-foot stool and imagining I was a part of the cinderblock wall. He walked right by without taking notice, and I was looking at him to be sure. I decided I was in the groove and since my back door exit was blocked I had no choice but to walk through class right in front of everyone who was positioned at about six small circular lab tables. I calmly walked straight through and even looked at everyone (about 25 people) when I did it, never making eye contact. Next day I went to class and asked people if they saw me walk through the previous day and they said they did not. I've been able to accomplish similar things since but not for a long time now. It seems like the responsibilities and distractions of adult life remove some of our more esoteric abilities. Some people claim when they were in the jungle of SE Asia in the late 60's/early 70's they learned to project themselves forward and around corners to see ambushes to avoid them and survive. Truth or fiction? We may never know, but it seems quite plausible to me.


  12. Basically, it's the nicotine in the tobacco that's the real addictive substance - it is more addictive that almost any other substance other than hard drugs.

     


    That's right. Nicotine is the most addictive substance that can be found in mainstream cigarettes. Nicotine is found in the tobacco plant and is the reason for the popularity of ingesting the tobacco leaves. Funny thing about nicotine is it's really not as addictive by itself as it is along side with other choice poisons, many of them addictive too, which are commonly added to commercial cigarettes. Some cigarettes are "stepped on" so heavily with additives there's hardly any tobacco left, thus little nicotine, so the makers have to actually add nicotine to make sure they're still addictive as hell as well as deadly poisons. I, personally, smoke cigarettes that contain more nicotine than most any other brand for two reasons: First, they're American Spirits Medium and they've got more tobacco crammed in those paper tubes than other cigarettes and since tobacco is the main (in this case the only) source of nicotine, it follows that this brand would contain more. Second, since they've got one ingredient, all natural 100% Virginia tobacco (and paper compromising the tube and filter) and nothing else, there's more room for good old-fashioned nicotine.

     

    How many packs a day, you might be wondering, does Watermonkey smoke? Well, I actually don't go through a pack a day. Alright, how many packs a week does he smoke, you might be wondering... Actually I really don't smoke that quantity either. Well, how many cigarettes does he smoke in a month? I average between 30 and 35 cigarettes a month when I'm unemployed, which I've been since October. When I was employed, I was going through a pack or more a week. I currently smoke one cigarette at night before bed each day with the occasional mid-day smoke. In January, I smoked two cigarettes a day three days. The other days were one-cigarette days. I've grown use to this routine. Am I addicted? No. I am not. I believe I was once addicted when I was smoking Camels in my early 20's, but I over-consumed those and had to quit. A good educational web site regarding mainstream cigarettes can be found here: http://www.quitsmokingsupport.com/whatsinit.htm It's not the worst thing in the world if you do it moderately after becoming informed. Know that many corporations really don't care about your health, but some smaller ones do. Common sense applies here as it always does. If you know there are "natural" cigarettes that contain one ingredient, it should follow that that product will be far less damaging to you then another product that has numerous poisons including cyanide and formaldehyde. It doesn't take a chemist to figure that one out.


  13. In order to get the full amount of energy implied in Einstein's formula you need to bring antimatter in contact with matter. While this sounds simple there is no source of antimatter that we can access.

    Actually, the USAF has been doing research in this area for quite some time and while creating anti-matter isn't impossible, containing it is very problematic. You have to suspend it in a vacuum without letting it touch any matter, kinda tricky. If they can capture and contain just a gram of anti-matter, they could create a devesting event killing many thousands of those "useless eaters" with none of that pesky radiation falling everywhere mucking up everything.

    This sounds interesting and impossible in my mind. Do you know where you can find more information about this idea?

     

    http://home.cern/

     

    There's a lot of information on this out there but I haven't done any meaningful research on the topic.


  14. I'm no expert on energy issues. What basic knowledge I have stems from my doing tons upon tons of research just to ensure that I beat someone else in a school debate on the subject. But that planted enough of a foundation for me to stay interested and read further and to sound reasonably informed about this issue. So I will be throwing my hat into the ring that has been started here about "what will happen", and hopefully I have one of the more interesting takes on it.

     

    First, the major pressure from this issue is going to be within our lifetime and depending on different predictions, perhaps even within the decade. The problems with oil shortages are real and really frightening, and for some of the doomsday scenarios, you should google the term "peak oil".

    Some rather interesting reading comes when you add the word "myth" to the above search.

     

    Peak Oil is not when oil runs out. It's when oil production begins to slow down. Every economy in the world is based on growth. More population, more companies, more cars, more oil. We are still pumping out more oil and pumping it out faster to accommodate all these expansions. But, we will hit a peak in oil production, called "peak oil". Some say this will happen around 2030, some say 2008, some say it is already here, but most seem to agree it is at least a few decades off.

     

    But the problems don't start when we run out of oil. They start when we reach Peak Oil. As the economy continues to expand, more power is needed and more cars hit the road. But suddenly, there is less oil available to meet rising demands. You know the rules of supply and demand, so it should be easy to see that after peak oil, the price of gas, oil, gas-based electricity, etc. will skyrocket.


    The rule of supply and demand doesn't appear to be valid here as our country's petroleum reserves are at historic highs, last year there were no serious hurricanes, our demand is low, yet gas is still very very high, especially in the northwest US. If supply/demand isn't setting prices, what is? The fact no new refineries have been built in over a decade doesn't help but dig a little deeper...

     

    Because oil touches virtually every facet of our economy, all sectors and all goods will have much higher prices and everything is going to get much harder economically. Most every product has a transportation cost factored into its price and all those prices will go way up, our economy will slow and things will get awful.

     

    Unless, that is, our American politicians invoke some drastic changes to the way our economy (our cars and our power plants) generate power-- revolutionary and within the next 6 ... days. Honestly it would have to happen immediately or else it's already very late. But I doubt we are actually going to invoke any major changes until we've actually directly felt the effects.

    Don't hold your breath. Politicians aren't known for doing what's best for the people, they're hired to work for the global corporations.

     

    But when that happens, we will be compelled to invoke changes and they will. With cars, there wont be one simple answer. There will actually be a combination of different types of fuel that cars will be running on that will all take up their own percentage of the cars on the road. Some will be biodiesel. But we could never power all cars on biodiesel because there simply isn't enough farmland. That which exists is needed for food and depending on the crop we use to get the oil (probably various but most likely soy), we probably wouldn't have enough acerage in the entire united states of america to power our cars. I say "probably" because I tried to do this calculation myself, and there is a very good chance I was off. But still, even if we converted half to 80% of all of our country over to farming for biodiesel, there just wouldn't be enough.

    Complicated issue, but when or if the farming of hemp is legalized again, it'll help solve the bio-diesel problem. The hemp seed is, I believe, over 95% oil, the plant needs little or no fertilizer and grows pretty much anywhere with irrigation, and it can be used for clothing, paper, and a myriad of other things on top of oil from its seeds.

     

    What's more, this would create problems around the world because if third world countries see a stronger market for their crops as fuel than as food they may be compelled to sell it instead of offer it to their own populace. Maybe. But those would probably be rare and isolated scenarios.

    Don't bank on it. Have you seen the price of corn lately? Hope you don't like corn, because you won't be able to afford it pretty soon.

     

    So biodiesel will be developed but it will only produce a small fraction of our cars.

    Bio-diesel is many many years away from being a viable fuel (100%) replacement due to it's high pour point. The fuel gels(freezes), depending upon the type of oil used, at very high temps (up to about 43 degrees F if memory serves) and for those of us who don't live in the tropics, that'd shut us down in the winter. That's why, in the northern latitudes in the winter, a 5-10% mix is as high as we can go. In the summer we can run B100 (100% biodiesel) but we're back to the old problem of burning nasty dirty mineral diesel in the cooler months. If the EPA would let up a little, diesel cars are where the future should lie. Many of them will go twice or more as far as a similar gasoline car on one gallon of fuel!

     

    Also, we are obviously going to still have to use oil in our next generation of cars, but mpg standards on regular cars will be way more strict and they will have to pollute much much less than they presently do. There will need to be laws requiring that only a certain amount can be sold that have low mileages and that as years go on less and less will be allowed. These, though much more expensive because of insane fuel costs, will still be one of the major cornerstones of the car fleet, even as it gets factored out of existence.

    There isn't much less they can pollute at this point. In some cities the air coming out of the tailpipe of a new car is actually cleaner and better to breathe than the air the car sucks in to its air filter!

     

    There will also be hydrogen powered (fuel cell) cars. But there will be even less of these then biodiesel because they would be extremely inconvenient. Hydrogen atoms are small (small as they get!) and can leak straight through perfectly airtight containers.

    Have you seen Honda's home fuel cell charging station? http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/ Pretty cool, huh? Put up a medium sized solar array on your roof and drive this little cutie to work and back every day. While you're at it, say goodbye to those annoying power outages. Honda's fuel cell powers not only your car, but your whole house as well! God I love that company.

     

    People fantasize about a hydrogen economy but realizing one would take a major major, major overhaul to our existing infrastructure. We can't put hydrogen in the old underground oil and gas pipelines stretching across our country without replacing tons of existing oil equipment. Presumably things like pressure gages, computer systems, and other materials used for oil would have to be replaced.

     

    Also, per unit volume, hydrogen packs less power than oil or gas. A hydrogen fuel tank on a car would be many many times larger than a gas tank for the same distance, unless you were keeping the hydrogen stored at several thousand psi or as liquid hydrogen, then (if I remember correctly) it's closer to 2x the size for a tank, but that is unrealistically expensive and insane. Paying to keep hydrogen at such high pressure or at such low temperatures is just that much more expensive. Per unit weight hydrogen is great. The same weight of gasoline holds much less punch than the same weight hydrogen. But our economy functions by volume. By gallons of gas, by barrels of oil. Practically, the size of our fuel tanks, transportation and management of a fuel all primarily revolve around the volume of it and not the weight of it.

     

    Adding to that, if we are to use giant fuel trucks to deliver hydrogen around the country like we do gas, we would need 20 times the amount of fuel trucks on the road to maintain everything.

     

    All hydrogen would have to be created (where would you harvest it? It's the most simple element there is so it always mixes with something else). Around the world today, most hydrogen is produced by breaking down a fossil fuel, a hydrocarbon with hydrogen inside it like coal, oil, etc. 96% percent of hydrogen is produced by fossil fuels in the present day, and so having hydrogen cars wouldn't help us get off of oil. At least, that is the talking point everyone like to use, but if we transitioned over to hydrogen obviously that would change. The most famous example is electrolysis, where you basically fry water with electricity and it breaks the water back into hydrogen and oxygen. Obviously, there would be new plants that would do this and separate out the hydrogen and then send it around our country. Unless it gets produced right at the station where people would fill up with hydrogen. Then the car would just do the opposite combine the hydrogen back with oxygen to make water + electricity, which allows the car to run.

     

    But for a while at least, these will be weak cars (can only go so far), and it will be inconvenient to get the fuel. And it would take a massive amount of electricity just to produce all this hydrogen (something on the level of doubling the amount of power plants in the country just for the hydrogen cars alone, if they were to power the car fleet). Where will this electricity come from? But still, the hydrogen fuel cell car will have to be a reality, but it will be a small portion of our cars.

     

    Probably the single largest contingent of cars are going to be hybrid cars, which will run mostly on electricity or biodiesel or hydrogen (still electric), but there will be gas when it is needed. If our consumers would stop being idiots and demand 300 horsepower cars, a lot less gas would be necessary and hybrid cars would have an easier time becoming widespread. They are already here today, they have the muscle when needed but will rely mostly on electricity and drastically reduce the need for oil. Even though they use gas they will be a major, major contingent of the nation's car fleet and will greatly help reduce demand and ease the pain of high costs of oil.

    It's human nature to enjoy the thrill of raw power. I doubt you'll see any change in that aspect of humanity any time soon.

     

    Then there is the straight up pure electric car. Not a fuel cell car, but just a battery powered car. On many levels these will suck. They have weak engines and can only like 93 miles on one "load" of electricity. Not much but it's actually more than millions of people need to drive in a day. They will take [b]hours[/b] to recharge so if you forgot to plug it in (yes, plug it in) overnight, you are out of luck the next morning. Batteries would have to be entirely [b]replaced[/b] about every 20,000 miles and we would have to find creative ways to drive less. But they will not use fossil fuels and once the cars penetrate the market (which they will) they will become about the same price as any other car, but with a much, much, oh-so-much cheaper bill when it comes to fueling up. They will actually be a huge help though, much more than biodiesel.
    You seem to fail to realize that "fuel cells" are, in fact, just fancy batteries with no limit on their usable lifespan. You can recharge most batteries a hundred to a thousand times. You can recharge a fuel-cell (H2) an unlimited number of times. That's a simplistic explaination, for more detail do a search. I did: http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/ There are more and none of them I've read is 100% accurate, but you'll get a good idea if you read at least that one. Also, electric cars consume massive amounts of fossile fuels. Unless you produce electricity from the air, sun, or water/gravity.

     

    But the electricity has to come from somewhere, whether we just use it for electrolysis for fuel cells or for straight battery powered electric cars. Nuclear power will have to be phased out entirely. If you factored government subsidies, waste management, plant maintenance back into the cost of nuclear power it would actually be very high. Nuclear power is not our future, no inexpensive solution for removing waste exists (but the fears that the plant will blow up are an exaggeration, they are very safe despite what people will tell you). Also for political reasons, if we are smart, we aren't going to use nuclear power. Nuclear power plants and nuclear weapons are brother and sister, and from one technology, the other technology can and will be accessed.
    I'm not ready just yet to give up on nuclear energy. Don't dismiss it so easily. Technology in this field is advancing rapidly and I believe in the near future there'll be discovered a way to easily erase all the spent plutonium or uranium rods thus removing one of the three main things that make electricity produced in this way unattractive: Expense of the power plant, disposal of the radioactive waste, and potential for an accident or terrorist attack ala Chernobyl. Also, research continues on fusion which involves no waste and it won't always be just another good idea with no solution. Addendum: Actually the latest method of disposal for depleted uranium is to incorporate it into projectiles and litter the middle east and Africa with it causing massive radiation poisoning of our troops and the planet.

     

    Also, for the towering destruction of pollution caused by Coal Plants (also a fossil fuel which we will run out of in 200 years, a long time but shorter than we think), Coal will be out. So no coal, no oil and no nuclear for our power plants. What, then? Natural renewable sources. The strongest of these will likely be wind which is abundant and already penetrating the electricity market present day and expanding at a ridiculous pace (the industry grows by an insane 33% a year). Wind is going to catch up on its own accord, even without the urgent intervention that will be needed, so it should develop more quickly than solar power. But there will be plenty of each on a massive scale.Also, geothermal energy (drilling down in the earth for undergrount heat), on the western half of our country around California and Nevada and several over places, is already used as a viable power source, and there is tons of it. Hawaii, which already gets 25% of all its power from geothermal thanks to the volcanic activity could expand further. Geothermal, wind, and solar will all produce the new electricity which will be the backbone of the car industry.
    Geothermal energy is really big in northern NV, but it'll probably never be a major source of power. I look forward to the day it's commonly incorporated in the building of rural homes to help save energy.

     

    So, what saves us from the oil shortage? A combination of a few things happening at once. But the short answer would be: electricity. Thats my view, and if you look at sources to check me on my assertions, you should see that most every claim above is backed up by a source which you can find on the internet.
    An overall well thought-out and nicely researched topic so I'm not going to tear it apart, mostly because I'm feeling lazy, but not because your arguments are bullet-proof. I just want to take exception to a few things and anything else, you've made a choice which side of the debate to stand based on widely available knowledge, but is it the truth? No, I'm not asking you if you're lying, I just noticed that some of your "facts" have "counter-facts" available out there as well. First off, oil is one of the most politicized issues out there, so be careful not to buy the propaganda about "peak oil". Consider that "peak oil" (that point at which all the easy-to-get sweet light crude is exhausted) might be a myth or urban legend. Consider the possibility that what you think you know about oil coming from dinosaurs (organic decayed material i.e. "fossil fuel") is false. It's actually mineral-based, not organic according to some sources including the Russian study at gasresources.net/. Consider that if an oil well dries up, all you have to do is let it sit for ten years and come back and turn the pumps back on and voila! Texas Tea, Black Gold... The wells refill themselves (many sources for this easily searchable). Impossible? Well, let's just say Shell and Exxon BP and others don't want you to know about their dirty little secrets. They wouldn't be able to rake in massive record breaking profits if you didn't believe they were past "peak oil" and all the worlds oil was locked up in shale or prohibitively expensive to extract.

     

    Notice from truefusion:
    There's a limit as to how many QUOTE bbcodes you can use. Once you reach the limit of 10, please use CODE bbecodes. Thanks. ;)


  15. I asked my meat-eating sister about this phenomenon, to get a better handle on the psychology of it. She said it bothers her when I mention vegetarianism because she doesnt like to think too hard about meat, or where it comes from. It makes her feel guilty.

     

    This struck a chord with me. In most of civilized society, people buy their meat from the grocery store. The carcass is injected with red dye to hide the decay, it is neatly packaged in saran wrap, and my sister never has to think about how it went from being a living, breathing animal to a slab of flesh on her plate. She never has to think about the tortured existence that cow, pig, goat or chicken endured on a factory farm before suffering a horrible death. She never asks herself, do I really need to keep doing this? No, she never thinks about these things until I mention vegetarianism and shed rather I not.

     


    I remember talking to my sister about something similar and she told me she'd rather not have to think about how the meat in the grocery store got to be there. Many (most?) people intentionally pull blinds over their eyes to keep them from seeing the real world because the real world is so full of pain, suffering, and misery. It's this activity that perpetuates that condition. Politicians take advantage of this blissful ignorance by enacting more and more Orwellian laws and one of these days, a critical mass of people are going to wake up and find there's chains around their ankles and wrists and wonder how they got there. Many people will admit to you, when pressed, they "really don't want to know" what's really going on in the world, they're just trying to stay happy wearing their rose-colored glasses watching their little worlds go by in a haze.

  16. I do business at two tire places: Tire Factory because it's the "little guy" locally, and Discount Tire. I've been a big fan of Discount for many years now because I learned they will repair your tire for free even if you didn't buy it there. Now that's good service. Speaking of this, I recently got a puncture in the tires I bought from Discount but being a hundred miles away from the nearest location I had to go to Les Schwabb for the repair. Seems like they've learned a lesson from the leaders in the industry because they repaired my tire for free. Only problem is they failed to return my chrome dust cover to the wheel and they also failed to replace the little spacers Discount gave me with my wheels because they're aftermarket and need a little help fitting properly. So it seems like the boys at my local Les Schwabb maybe need to pay a little more attention to these little details, but I've never had similar trouble at Discount Tire. Great place to do business!


  17. I live in the sticks and I've got two options in my budget for internet service: Dial-up at about 24k or Satellite. I've looked at various satellite options and when Wildblue finally became available I hopped on board. Last month, probably because I was (and am) unemployed and spending a lot of time sitting in front of the computer, we blew right through the bandwidth usage limit on the lowest level package we were on so we had to upgrade to the middle package.

     

    We have several issues with satellite in general: It's shared bandwidth so they've got limits per month on a rolling usage chart and with the middle package it's 12 MB per month. When it snows, the snow piles up on the antenna enough to actually bring the internet to a screeching halt until you go out and brush the snow off. Very annoying but it doesn't happen all that often. I put a plastic bag over the receiver at the end of the arm extending out from the dish so rain doesn't really bother it any more. Also, the satellite companies know they've got you, so they charge you big time. For $70/month we pay for 1Mps down and something like 256 or so up. And of course you get the limits on usage too. As a comparison if we lived in the closest town near the C.O., we'd be able to buy DSL from Qwest and get 1.5MB/s down and 512 up for about $34/month. Further more according to Toast.net where they tell me to go to test the speed, we rarely get their minimum speed of 700KB/s download(usually it's much slower, between 400 and 700k). The upload has been good for a while but there was a time where we've had very low upload speeds.

     

    Anyone else have Wildblue and want to vent? On the plus side, they launched a satellite a month or two ago the size of a metro bus and it should be going in to service in February or March. That should improve their service, cross your fingers.


  18. I’d like to humbly add a couple things to the overall excellent advice given above because we’re not all the same age or mobility.

     

    First, when I was a kid to young adult I swam competitively. Now not everyone needs to swim 100M sprints, but it doesn’t hurt -especially if you really want that old ticker to be in shape. Swimming is one of the very best exercises you can do for an aerobic workout. If you can swim a mile a day, you’re in excellent shape.

     

    Next, since we don’t all have a swimming pool at our disposal, a good long walk is just what the doctor ordered as noted above. I’d only add that adding a bit of weight around the ankles and a couple five pounders to your hands will severely increase the effectiveness of this important exercise.

     

    Regarding food, really, there’s nothing wrong with food that tastes good! Good food should taste good! Isn’t that the whole point of food? I’d just encourage people to wean themselves off prepared foods they can just pop in the mw and eat a minute later. First, there’s a growing body of evidence to support the theory that mw radiation changes the water molecules in a fundamental and harmful way causing their interaction with our bodies to be unhealthy. Second, prepared food is likely to contain poisons like partially hydrogenated oils, processed sugar, MSG, artificial flavor, truck loads of salt, etc. These foods were likely created in a lab, not in nature. To decide what to eat is simple, just eat what contains ingredients found in nature. (By the way, Rapeseed A.K.A. Canadian Oil, which is A.K.A. Canola oil, was created in a lab by Monsanto Corp., not in nature and cottonseed oil is not considered a “food”. These two oils should be used only industrially or in the making of Bio-diesel) A little research goes a long way here. Cook food over an open flame if at all possible. Learn the art of cooking, you might just find a new hobby in it. It’s not “girlish” to know how to live single or be able to cook for your girlfriend/wife. And ladies, you’re no less independent if you learn to be good cooks. Mark Spitz once told a group of swimmers I was part of, “Garbage in, garbage out.” If nothing else, remember those words, you’ll begin to feel better about eating and you’ll need to focus less on calories when you start eating whole foods. And no, Velveeta is not a whole food! It wouldn't hurt to curtail or even eliminate meat from your diet too. Meat is a big source of bad cholesterol and fat.

     

    Listen to your body. A high impact workout regimen is also more dangerous and more likely to result in injury. It’s best to do such things under the direct supervision of an instructor. Thanks for this topic! It’s not discussed often enough.


  19. I do not mean to be to harsh but not everything that is important has to do with your own life! That is quite egoistic...Maybe someone feels that he should share such a terrible thing than he should do it...
    Maybe it remember you to cherish your life and maybe you should be more happy with what you have?


    And maybe you should learn to construct a sentence. The awful grammar that's rampant on this forum is appalling. I can barely make out what you said and it takes me twice as long to read your post because I have to sit and translate. Quit wasting people's time by making them work so hard to understand you. That's the message here. The original post is a waste of time. Like salamangkero said, this news story doesn't have any impact or relevance to anyone outside the small circle of people who know the person in the coma. Further, quoting an article is strictly forbidden. This topic is a waste of bandwidth and should be deleted.

  20. The official death count for our country doesn't include those who die from wounds received in the theater after they've been transported out of country. The real death count is much higher. The US has no business in Iraq, plain and simple. Nor do we have any business in Afghanistan. Our military are dying for no good cause. The enemy isn't in Iraq. Most of the alleged hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. Kim Ill or whatever of Korea has declared war on the U.S. and we've done nothing about that country. Iran has stated its intentions and we've done nothing. Saddam once attempted to kill G.H.Bush and we've gone in under the false pretense of preventing him from acquiring WMDs (which we supplied him during his war with Iran), but the real reason was to capture him and kill off his family and see him hanged. If oil had anything to do with it, so be it. They've successfully turned off the oil coming out of Iraq and doubled or even tripled gas prices in that country. This is the slow drawn-out beginnings of WWIII but I think we're about to see an escalation bringing Israel, Iran, Syria, and Lebanon into the mix.


  21. I think the whole bush administration is crooked and probobly had the Ohio voting officials in their pocket...After all the things ive heard thats happened..and the sudden recount in florida (were georges brother is in charge of polls) I think we have been scammed. Its a damn shame too because this is a great country but its the crooked people who run it that are tearin it apart...Well theres nothing i can do but Vote the democrats into office..But that still dosnt mean that the democrats will have our backs..You never can tell these days but with G.W Bush it was kind of obvious that he was an incompetent idiot...I love this great nation and will live here till i die...But people need to stop believing everything they hear and look for the truth themselves instead of just agreeing with things just so its easier....But like i said O-Well theres nuthin i can do-KuSh


    I'll agree with most everything you just posted, and I'll take it a stop further. There hasn't been an honest presidential election in this country since before Kennedy was elected and IL was manipulated to steal that election. Many state elections are fraudulant too such as WA this past gubnatorial election when it was stolen by the democrat. Next time someone tells you "it's a free country", tell them it's not and hasn't been for a long time. It'd help if people stopped thinking in terms of Dem vs Rep or conservative vs liberal, black vs white and all that. Try and remember that those of us who are actually here legally as citizens are Americans first. The forces who want to destroy the sovereignty of this country and all others have only to turn us against eachother to make that possible. Remember, Nationalism first, Globalism - never!
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