BooZker 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2006 (edited) Well recently one of my good girl that is a friend got a laptop from her dad. Her dad does websites so the laptop was new and worked fine, but needed to be defraged. The one problem, her nor her dad knew the admin password. I told her to post her question on Trap 17 and it got answered with in minutes. All you have to do is these few steps:1. Reboot2. Before the windows logo comes up press F11 (Just start clicking it over and over again until the windows logo comes up.)3. Just sit and let it do it's thing and when the login screen comes up click on the Admin icon (It was a picture of a pink flower on her account)4. After it logs in go to control panel5. Then go to User Accounts6. either make an old, non, admin account an admin account or create a new one 6a. If you wanna make a new account just click Create a New Account > Pick a username > Set setting as an admin 6b. If you wanna change an account to an admin: Click the account > Change the Account Type > the Select Admin7. Then thats it reboot and it's all done. Make sure not to reboot in safe mode though! the point of this post was how easy XP is hacked. Why is it this easy? Is there software to prevent this? I'm not worried about my PC, but what about others? Edited August 7, 2006 by BooZker (see edit history) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Demonhawk 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2006 Well I think all F11 does is boot up in safemode right? If not you can always just put a password on the main Administrator account, when you nomraly boot up admin account is hidden if you have created other accounts for windows. Once you put up a password it would be a pain to get in. But if you really want to get into the system you could always just make a floppy disk or cd with the program which resets passwords but then again you need physical access to the computer, so it really isn't THAT easy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vaibhav1405241528 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2006 Both of you BoozKer and DemonHawk...all I can tell guys politely is that YOU PEOPLE HAVE GONE MAD! Firstly, to demonhawk...you dont boot into the safe mode by using the [f11] key but it is done by using the [f8] key. So make a note of it. Rest whatever you have written is cetainy true.As far as BoozKer is concerned...from where did you get that amazing idea that [f11] would do anything at all? I knew it was false...But I though that mikght be some BUG or an easter egg would have been left into windows...I rebooted 4-5 times totaling altogethjer 15 Mins just to cjeck that if what you told was OKAY!?? But sadly, I must tell you...nothing happened...[F11] doesnt work and the windows loads noramally! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BooZker 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2006 (edited) Vaibhav,This is the EXACT tutorial i got and it worked like a charm the first time. It was given to me by Plenoptic from Trap. Here is the link to the topic on Trap also if you do not believe me. http://forums.xisto.com/topic/39850-topic/ You can start your computer in safe mode by pressing F11 before the windows logo shows up and starts loading . When you start your computer in safe mode it has an admin account that anyone can use. I don't know if you can change your password without knowing your old one but you can create a new admin account and delete the old one while saving the files.If someone elses computer is different tell me so i can update it, but it worked for my computer and also hers.Both of you BoozKer and DemonHawk...all I can tell guys politely is that YOU PEOPLE HAVE GONE MAD! Firstly, to demonhawk...you dont boot into the safe mode by using the [f11] key but it is done by using the [f8] key. So make a note of it. Rest whatever you have written is cetainy true.What version of windows are you running? And also F8 doesn't put it into Safe Mode. Maybe you have an older version or a different Version of windows... you do have windows right? Edited August 7, 2006 by BooZker (see edit history) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vhortex 1 Report post Posted August 7, 2006 f11 goes to safe mode unless you have a moded windows.. dont get your windows on crack sites.. some functions are NOPed [no operation]. a moded windows install can also blocked this function..there are also computer brands that uses f11.. take one is a version of compaq that brings the boot sequence when pressing the f11..f8 wont bring you to safemode.. it will prompt you to select a boot up sequence or to skip some configurations..--in win98.. f8 is a step by step confirmation of all sysconfig and autoexec.bat commands..--and some windows versions.. mostly those that came up from out of the box have this bad habit of turning all new accounts as admin.. so literally.. if you can login with a non existent account.. windows will create a new admin one..great stuff for windows.. i love them for that since i can logged in anycomputer without knowing the admin logins...--if a computer uses DNS or active directory.. then this may not work.. depending on how good the system admin is.. but this does not mean that it is impossible to create new admins if a password is forgotten on a DNS controlled computer station... it is windows anyway.. 1001 loop holes.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kaputnik 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2006 Most interesting.. frankly, it seems dangerous for systems to be accessable so easily. What is very likely though is that such an access method is meant to be solely for the more technically capable and must have been instituted so that specialists etc can retrieve information from systems that have locked out their owners - wo may have forgotten their passwords. All in all, general knowledge of this method (and it has not been tried by myself as yet so I really can't verify it's mechanism), is a dangerous thing since everyone in corporate environments may go about entering other people's systems without authorization. Must give this a shot to veify. Then I guess I'll have to figure out how to circumvent this method. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vaibhav1405241528 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2006 I completely agree with vortex. and BoozKer... I can't understand a reason your Windows behaves that way. And yeah. As far as my windows version and SP is concerned, I am running Windows XP - SP-2 updating my computer moment to moment and I tried it yet again dude, but nothing happened! Strange it works for you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BooZker 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2006 As vhortex explained it is F11 and make sure you press it before the windows screen and just keep pressing it until you see something different then you normally see. Everything he just explained is 100% true and this should work for your guy's computers unless a virus, or some other software prevents it. Has anyone else had trouble with this? Make sure to read everything! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arbitrary 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2006 All in all, general knowledge of this method (and it has not been tried by myself as yet so I really can't verify it's mechanism), is a dangerous thing since everyone in corporate environments may go about entering other people's systems without authorization.Indeed, but this depends on how good the admin is. If the admin is really careful, employees probably won't be able to gain restricted access. If the admin is an idiot...well, then no guarantees. I would try this, as I want to download IE6 and be able to read/write Chinese on my computer. But I have Windows 2000, so I don't know if this will actually work. I suppose I could always just ask the admin (my dad), since it's not like I'm doing anything illegal. But he's not anywhere within reach. XD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dhanesh1405241511 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2006 You talking about OS Security ? Try Windows softwares instead .. D'load the Windows Defender .. now if u try the update site its a no no from windows update IF you have a dupe copy of OS, but incase u get hold of a free d'load off the net .. when u try to install .. it will tell u that ur windows is dupe .. To get this working .. all you have to do is d'load a dis-assembler .. change a value .. and woot .. ur ready to install defender on ur PC .. and its not just for Defender .. every single software of windows that has a Copyright check is crackable .. Now tell me .. Does windows really want us to use its softwares or does it just need more users ? Monopoly is one thing, but purposely letting loopholes stay there even after 5 months of a sotware update is just plain crazy and desperate. Wish the Linux bots overtook the world ;)RegardsDhanesh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vhortex 1 Report post Posted August 8, 2006 nice point dhanesh.. i have accidentally activated my windows from a preview version and used it for 3 long years.. that is the time of windows XP being sold at pirate stores 3 months ahead of release schedule.. i was browsing all setups and landed up on registry config.. done some searching and replaced an unknown {442ddao0131.. blahblahblahblahblah} registry entry.. first it crash my windows.. i tried to figure it out and get random guessing.. anyway my copy was a preview a trial.. after flickering some more.. my windows said it was activated and it thanked me for buying windows XP.. ----- I wont be surprised where the FCK string of pirated copy of windows came from.. maybe from the preview also and have just figured out the loop hole.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tansqrx 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2006 From what I can understand, the Administrator account did not have the password set in the first place. Otherwise it would be trivial for anyone to break into a machine and I donât think even Microsoft would allow that. I myself have never heard of hitting F11 and I have been doing this for quite some time. There are other ways of at least resetting the Administrator password if you have physical access to the machine.http://forums.xisto.com/topic/8716-topic/?showtopic=8716= Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WeaponX 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2006 I agree...that F11 key might have been for certain computers only. I also have never heard of using the F11 key for use during bootup time.I'm wondering if that admin account (specifically) has any passwords at all. There might have been more than administrator account and the one you logged into could have been the one without the password.If the account was truly password protected it shouldn't have allowed you access into Windows that easily without third party programs as mentioned earlier. Most of these programs will remove the password for you, giving you access to assign it a new password. Keep in mind that if you do this, any of your encrypted files/folders will still require the old/previous password in order to decrypt them. Otherwise, they will be encrypted... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vaibhav1405241528 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2006 Great Idea! Anyway my windows denfder works fine and gets updated intime and automatically! anyway I think that windows isnt that bad, with a loose administration in Linux world, I dont think that there would have been any standards in the industry without Microsoft! And let the Linux get as popular as MS and you will come to know how much holes are there in Linux...most of them come through the X-Window systems like KDE and ICE-WM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xboxrulz1405241485 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2006 The Windows administrator account does NOT have a password on default. You must set it yourself either during installation or afterwards. However, I tried the trick on Windows 2000 and I can confirm that it doesn't work. However, I'll try it on Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 later.xboxrulz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
