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A.i. Artificial Inteligence what do you think

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Nothing wrong to create some kind of logic which can be applied to formulate some symbolic language which eventually can be used to describe the world of a painting or a machine-robot. AI people are far away to create the Oscar winner Terminator that walks down the street. The challenge to build a robot that understand and behave similar to human is an utopia but seems to be an essential progress in this word also for many scientist would be and incredible achievement (form AI to genetic engineering). At the moment neural networks technology are far to accomplish part of this taskā€¦ At this stage only expert systems can sometime do a better job then human on some very specific task. (Probably because machines never get bored or tired).

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guesthouse, you're absolutely right - the key words are "specific task". Marvin Minsky (AI pioneer & occasional sci-fi author) once said "Some tasks we thought would be very hard turned out to be easy, or at least manageable; there are machines that play chess very well, and there's a machine that became world champion at backgammon, if anyone cares,. But some tasks that we thought would be very easy turned out to be very hard. How does a child learn to tie her shoelaces? How do you teach that to a machine?" If you think it's easy to teach a child to tie shoelaces, tell me how you'd command a robot to do it. If that's too hard, try an easier task: tell a robot what is necessary to boil and egg for your breakfast. Post your results to this thread. Adaptability to the vagaries of the real world is the problem. If you could give a machine the equivalent general knowledge to a human, it might manage some of these general/adaptable tasks. The CYC project (http://www.cycorp.com/) has been working on this for a long time, and they've had some successes - but mostly in specialised domains, rather than truly "general" knowledge.It reminds me of old joke about two Daleks who roll up to a flight of stairs, and one says "Well, that b*****s up our plans to conquer the universe!"

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The whole subject fascinates me for some reason... The idea of understanding our own brains enough that we could recreate a similar structure...There has always been something in me that makes me want to understand how everything works. And not just the general explanation... I want to know every last detail of how something works.I think that's where my fasicantion in A.I. comes from.It seems crazy to me that our own brains can't figure out how our own brains work.I do however believe that it all has to be much more complicated than a complicated list of "IF" statements. But what else could it be? Some unknown way of computing?So what if we did find this unknown way of computing out... and improved it... mixed it with our current way of computing.Maybe finding out more could help us improve our current software? You know, so someone could create an Operating System that NEVER CRASHES!

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A.I will NEVER reach the extent of suddenly plotting to kill all man, as scientists say. It is feasably impossible for a robot to be given the precise "human" or "humanoid" instinct in which to have the natural curiosity of what man has.I am not bothered by AI, infact I embrace it. As long as we are moving life forward, I think that AI is just another stepping stone, both major and minor.If you are as complex (or simple?) as me then you will understand or relate to what I believe.It does not generally matter whether or not AI will ever expand or not. If it expands, it expands. We must then deal with the consiquences (both good and bad) and if it is abandonned, then it is to be left for some event to pick up on it again.Everything is inevitable. Everything happens within or without time, space and all the other unknown forces.A little cryptic I know, but like I said, it is the way you think.--mik:P

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