Need Unbuntu Expert..

[user681 0]

Windows 7 on my laptop screwd up so I decided to try out ubuntu after much persuasion from a friend but I have a problem.

ubuntu is alot different from windows..and honestly half the time when I go through guides I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing..anyway I really would appreciate it if SOMEBODY could PLEASE guide me through this and help me get my wireless INTERNET working on my laptop !

 

For some odd reason, ubuntu IS not dectecting an wireless card ( I think) when I click on the network button there is no option for wireless network..(the top right button)

 

Keep in mind that I've installed ubuntu using wubi and my other OS is windows 7 (everything works fine in windows 7 INCLUDING wireless)

 

Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!!

 

lspci:

howard@ubuntu:~$ lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 Host Bridge 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Toshiba America Info Systems Device 9602 00:06.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 2) 00:07.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 3) 00:11.0 SATA controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 SATA Controller [AHCI mode] 00:12.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB OHCI0 Controller 00:12.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700 USB OHCI1 Controller 00:12.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB EHCI Controller 00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB OHCI0 Controller 00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700 USB OHCI1 Controller 00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB EHCI Controller 00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 SMBus Controller (rev 3a) 00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 IDE Controller 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) 00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 LPC host controller 00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Mobile K10 [Turion X2, Athlon X2, Sempron] HyperTransport Configuration (rev 40) 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 11h [Turion X2, Athlon X2, Sempron] Address Map 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Mobile K10 [Turion X2, Athlon X2, Sempron] DRAM Controller 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Mobile K10 [Turion X2, Athlon X2, Sempron] Miscellaneous Control 00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Mobile K10 [Turion X2, Athlon X2, Sempron] Link Control 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS780MC [Radeon HD 3100 Graphics] 0e:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 8172 (rev 10) 14:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 02)

$ lspci -nn

00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 Host Bridge [1022:9600] 00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Toshiba America Info Systems Device [1179:9602] 00:06.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 2) [1022:9606] 00:07.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 3) [1022:9607] 00:11.0 SATA controller [0106]: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 SATA Controller [AHCI mode] [1002:4391] 00:12.0 USB Controller [0c03]: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB OHCI0 Controller [1002:4397] 00:12.1 USB Controller [0c03]: ATI Technologies Inc SB700 USB OHCI1 Controller [1002:4398] 00:12.2 USB Controller [0c03]: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB EHCI Controller [1002:4396] 00:13.0 USB Controller [0c03]: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB OHCI0 Controller [1002:4397] 00:13.1 USB Controller [0c03]: ATI Technologies Inc SB700 USB OHCI1 Controller [1002:4398] 00:13.2 USB Controller [0c03]: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB EHCI Controller [1002:4396] 00:14.0 SMBus [0c05]: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 SMBus Controller [1002:4385] (rev 3a) 00:14.1 IDE interface [0101]: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 IDE Controller [1002:439c] 00:14.2 Audio device [0403]: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) [1002:4383] 00:14.3 ISA bridge [0601]: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 LPC host controller [1002:439d] 00:14.4 PCI bridge [0604]: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge [1002:4384] 00:18.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Mobile K10 [Turion X2, Athlon X2, Sempron] HyperTransport Configuration [1022:1300] (rev 40) 00:18.1 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 11h [Turion X2, Athlon X2, Sempron] Address Map [1022:1301] 00:18.2 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Mobile K10 [Turion X2, Athlon X2, Sempron] DRAM Controller [1022:1302] 00:18.3 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Mobile K10 [Turion X2, Athlon X2, Sempron] Miscellaneous Control [1022:1303] 00:18.4 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Mobile K10 [Turion X2, Athlon X2, Sempron] Link Control [1022:1304] 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc RS780MC [Radeon HD 3100 Graphics] [1002:9613] 0e:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device [10ec:8172] (rev 10) 14:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller [10ec:8136] (rev 02)

$ iwconfig

lo no wireless extensions.

 

eth0 no wireless extensions.

[k_nitin_r 8]

Hi!@user681Wireless network adapter support is one of those things that Linux still needs some work on, but at least the support for integrated wireless network adapters and wireless network adapter cards is better than the support for USB wireless adapters.You would probably find a setting that enables Ubuntu to load proprietary drivers for your hardware, which just might load the drivers that you need for your wireless network adapter.BTW, from the lspci output that you've listed, it seems you have an AMD processor in your laptop PC. What's the battery life for your laptop like? Does it compare to a similarly priced Intel-powered laptop?

[rvalkass 5]

Realtek are universally awful in their Linux support. However, the community do their best to get Realtek products working. You will need to install ndiswrapper and the Windows 2000 drivers for the card (according to most sources on the Internet).

 

You may find the following to be useful:

https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8581510

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/401126

 

These instructions from Ubuntu detail how to get wireless cards working using ndiswrapper with very detailed instructions:

http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/

[user681 0]

Realtek are universally awful in their Linux support. However, the community do their best to get Realtek products working. You will need to install ndiswrapper and the Windows 2000 drivers for the card (according to most sources on the Internet).

 

You may find the following to be useful:

https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8581510

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/401126

 

These instructions from Ubuntu detail how to get wireless cards working using ndiswrapper with very detailed instructions:

http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/

I've looked at all of them but unfortuantely I ALWAYS get some kind of an error following these guides. I've asked for support on the ubuntu support forum but they're telling me to just follow the guides that's been listed over and over..It's really getting increasingly frusterating because I mean what's the use of a laptop without wireless network?

I've been trying to get this crap to work the past 12 hours or so and so far I'm still in the dark and don't really know what to do

[jlhaslip 4]

what happens if you connect the laptop to your connection point with a network cord? are you able to get the internet with a catv cable?if so, then the ndiswrapper would be the answer since your network card is being recognized.

[user681 0]

what happens if you connect the laptop to your connection point with a network cord? are you able to get the internet with a catv cable?

if so, then the ndiswrapper would be the answer since your network card is being recognized.

I've followed this guy "Snow Pickle" method

https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1267961&page=2

and it worked!!! BUT I have a problem...

 

After I install it when I shut the computer off and start it up again, the wireless no longer works so right now everytime I want to use wireless I have to follow the same steps and reboot AND also requires a ethernet cable connected to my laptop to work.

 

Does anyone know why the hell this is happening?! and How can I fix this!?

I'm just on the edge of ditching ubuntu for 7..it's just so god damn frustrating

[user681 0]

what happens if you connect the laptop to your connection point with a network cord? are you able to get the internet with a catv cable?if so, then the ndiswrapper would be the answer since your network card is being recognized.

It works with an ethernet cable
I've tried using ndiswrapper and I've also gone through many guides that goes through how to set up ndiswrapper but most of these guides are written as if you're born with knowledge of all ubuntu commands and so It's really confusing..

[k_nitin_r 8]

Hi!@rvalkassI've always had a pretty good experienc with RealTek wired Ethernet network adapters on the Linux platform. However, I haven't used any RealTek wireless network adapters yet because every notebook PC I've bought since the burgeoning of wireless Ethernet networks has had an Intel wireless chipset so it's been the wireless platform of the Centrino all the way for me.@user681I like the way you say "most of these guides are written as if you're born with knowledge of all ubuntu commands" but that isn't entirely true. I agree that many guides do not explain the commands that they have you typing. You can, however, always use the man (manual) command to look up what a particular command does. That's the most verbose description of a command that you can find unless somebody has written a comprehensive guide about the command. If you don't have a manual page for the command, you can post in the forums and perhaps one of the Linux developers can look up the source code and create a user guide that you can use as a reference guide.If you would like to speed up the process of getting your hardware working and your Linux setup correctly, get onto an IRC channel with another computer and then follow the instructions that the other users on IRC have to recommend - there's usually a #ubuntu or a #linux channel on one of the servers.

[knoppixusr 0]

I've followed this guy "Snow Pickle" method

https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1267961&page=2

and it worked!!! BUT I have a problem...

 

After I install it when I shut the computer off and start it up again, the wireless no longer works so right now everytime I want to use wireless I have to follow the same steps and reboot AND also requires a ethernet cable connected to my laptop to work.

 

Does anyone know why the hell this is happening?! and How can I fix this!?

I'm just on the edge of ditching ubuntu for 7..it's just so god damn frustrating

@user681 :

What version of ubuntu are you trying to install ? is it the latest version with more hardware support than a previous older version?

uname -a

You seem like you want answers to your problems now. The truth being Linux is originally designed for engineers in mind, people who love troubleshooting and have the patience to do so. If me/you either do not have the time or patience to battle with the problems a Linux distribution gives, Then do not use it.

 

Your friend who convinced you to use Linux sounds like a idiot to say the least. If he is so high on selling Linux to other people at least he should help you install it and make sure everything works.

 

For now I would recommend is try other distro, or make sure you are using the latest version of the distro. Or get your friend to come and fix your problems. If all that fails go back to windows and wait a while and try again in a year or so , by then their might be better support for your current hardware.

 

A Tip for the future when you go buy new hardware, take the latest live cd with and test to see if it works on that set of hardware before you buy new hardware. Good hardware should have support in Linux already ensuring that everything works out of the box flawlessly.

[user681 0]

@user681 :

What version of ubuntu are you trying to install ? is it the latest version with more hardware support than a previous older version?

uname -a

You seem like you want answers to your problems now. The truth being Linux is originally designed for engineers in mind, people who love troubleshooting and have the patience to do so. If me/you either do not have the time or patience to battle with the problems a Linux distribution gives, Then do not use it.

 

Your friend who convinced you to use Linux sounds like a idiot to say the least. If he is so high on selling Linux to other people at least he should help you install it and make sure everything works.

 

For now I would recommend is try other distro, or make sure you are using the latest version of the distro. Or get your friend to come and fix your problems. If all that fails go back to windows and wait a while and try again in a year or so , by then their might be better support for your current hardware.

 

A Tip for the future when you go buy new hardware, take the latest live cd with and test to see if it works on that set of hardware before you buy new hardware. Good hardware should have support in Linux already ensuring that everything works out of the box flawlessly.

haha ..I guess you're right but I'm not giving up on linux just yet. I'm going to bring my laptop to my friend tomorrow to see if he could help me with it.

FYI ubuntu works fine with my main PC and wireless works right out of the box..I just think it's really stupid that ubunutu does not support some of the most used wireless card built in laptops.. and I've installed the latest version 9.10 of ubuntu

Linux ubuntu 2.6.31-16-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 8 04:01:29 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux

Edited January 2, 2010 by user681 (see edit history)

[rvalkass 5]

After I install it when I shut the computer off and start it up again, the wireless no longer works so right now everytime I want to use wireless I have to follow the same steps and reboot AND also requires a ethernet cable connected to my laptop to work.

 

Does anyone know why the hell this is happening?! and How can I fix this!?

It is likely because your laptop is still loading the generic wifi drivers when your laptop starts. If you search for how to blacklist modules you will find out which ones need blacklisting to stop Ubuntu using them when it starts. The guide I linked to on Ubuntu's wiki should contain the information.

 

I've always had a pretty good experienc with RealTek wired Ethernet network adapters on the Linux platform. However, I haven't used any RealTek wireless network adapters yet because every notebook PC I've bought since the burgeoning of wireless Ethernet networks has had an Intel wireless chipset so it's been the wireless platform of the Centrino all the way for me.

Wired cards all work out of the figurative box for Linux. Wireless cards a mixed bag at the moment, and Realtek haven't exactly been forthcoming with help, and their cards seem particularly hard for people to write drivers for.

 

I just think it's really stupid that ubunutu does not support some of the most used wireless card built in laptops.. and I've installed the latest version 9.10 of ubuntu

Hardware support for devices lies with the manufacturer of the hardware, not with the writer of the operating system. That was Microsoft's excuse for the Vista driver debacle. As most hardware vendors are reluctant to write drivers for Linux (and even Macs) it is left to the community and developers. They can only do so much when they don't actually have access to the developer information about the hardware. The vendors won't release it to people to be able to write drivers.

 

Some manufacturers are doing a much better job though. HP, ATI and nVidia leap to mind as excellent examples of how big manufacturers can write excellent Linux drivers if they put their mind to it and put the effort in. It's something that needs to be encouraged among hardware vendors, and just goes to show that if people ask for Linux drivers, it can have an effect. Some devices, like digital cameras, follow open standards and they are therefore easy to write drivers for.

 

Contact Realtek support and ask for Linux drivers for your wireless card. If they say they don't have any, ask why. Press them for information on their decision ("We don't support Linux" isn't really an answer).