Global Warming Is A Lie

[csp4.0 1]

Ok, global warming will result in global cooling. It'll be like an oven placed inside a refridgerator. The CO2 emissions are way too much for the earth to handle, so unless everyone plants 100 trees we're doomed. Like I said before global warming is supposed to happen, but we are making it happen much sooner than its supposed to happen

[electriic ink 1]

Have you ever seen "inconvinient truth"? That movie shows that this warm period is a real problem. The warm period in the middle ages was nothing compared to what's going on now. Go take a look at that and tell this is just like the middle ages.

Have you ever seen The Great Global Warming Swindle? This hour-length documentary explained how a rise in temperature raises CO₂ levels and not the other way round. As the temperature rises, the waters heat up and release the CO₂ stored in them.

 

The reason why we're so concerned about it now is that we're helping to speed it up. Yes it's happened many times before, but were there cars back then? factories releasing tons of gas in the air? Was there electricity back then? Obviously the answer to that is no.

There are only 3 groups of people who are really concerned about global warming:

The Eco-Warrior/-Scientist - The scandal makes them more famous and keeps them in a job

The Socialist Politician - Another excuse to raise taxes? Hooray! It might hinder economic development a bit but that's none to our concern - no-one will notice that much anyway!

The Businessman - We are funding research into alternative fuels.

If any of these people had genuine environmental concerns, they would quit their high-paid jobs to set-up a charity which gives away electricity generated from renewable methods.

 

When people say global warming is a myth and I just point to Venus

How do you know that it's not something else that's causing the extreme temperatures?

[Smack 0]

Yea, have you ever seen "INSERT SOME SPECTACULAR NAME HERE" movie? Cause movies are the truth! They never lie! 100% facts baby!

 

Give me a break people. Get past the hype and all this bs you see in Hollywood from both sides.

 

As said before you can take a look around the solar system.

 

And besides, Ichthux is right, whats wrong with being conscientious about the environment, it's our freaking house.

And lowering our need for oil is a freaking good thing and we need to do it, we are slaves to the oil corporations, don't you see?

[cangor 0]

I think there may be a tiny bit of global warming due to human development, but not to the extent "they" would like us to believe. The polar ice caps are actually GROWING, and we're just in a slightly warmer cycle. If you look at a chart, we've only been warmer than average for two years in a row, and this year will probably be cooler than average. So, though we shouldn't pollute on purpose, anything we're doing, at least in the US, isn't going to have much effect on global temperatures. However, it may impact human health if you've got something like Acid rain, but you can have emissions from cars and factories and you shouldn't get anything nasty like that.

[srujanlive 0]

Global Warming can not be a lie. There is definitely an increase in temperatures due to rising CO2 levels. But what would be the result is an open ended question. No answers till it actually happens.

[Tetraca 0]

How do you know that it's not something else that's causing the extreme temperatures?

It's moreso just proof of concept that greenhouse gases can increase global temperatures. Whether due to human activity or not, that is up to you.

[electriic ink 1]

Yea, have you ever seen "INSERT SOME SPECTACULAR NAME HERE" movie? Cause movies are the truth! They never lie! 100% facts baby!

 

Give me a break people. Get past the hype and all this bs you see in Hollywood from both sides.

Nobody said that An Inconvenient Truth or The Great Global Warming Swindle were the truth - in fact it would be impossible for both of them to be seeing as they argue two different sides of a story. Anyway, who first informed you of global warming - the newspaper, TV, the radio?

 

As said before you can take a look around the solar system.

As was said before, you can't PROVE that there is a relationship, you can only make claims. That's the good thing about this theory, suddenly everybody's a scientist running around making wild claims that we're only going to sizzle in 200^oF heat! If you sit down and think about it, it's all a lot of rubbishand you know why? There is no proof for global warming by CO₂ because the tropospheric temperatures are rising just as quickly as those on the Earth's surface! ^PROOF

 

And besides, Ichthux is right, whats wrong with being conscientious about the environment, it's our freaking house.

And lowering our need for oil is a freaking good thing and we need to do it, we are slaves to the oil corporations, don't you see?

Granted, we need to lower oil soon but we can carry on using fossil fuels for over 250 years ^PROOF. Maybe we are slaves to oil companies so we should stop using fossil fuels just like the environmentalists want - then we can become slaves to them instead!

 

Global Warming can not be a lie. There is definitely an increase in temperatures due to rising CO2 levels

Who told you that? And did they prove it to you?

 

It's moreso just proof of concept that greenhouse gases can increase global temperatures. Whether due to human activity or not, that is up to you.

We know very little about the planets beyond us. Therefore, I cannot offer you any alternative causes for the extreme temperatures on Venus' atmosphere and only suggest that there is a strong chance that there is another. All I can say is that scientists have not found any proof that they theory is true on Earth, which is really what is our concern.

[jlhaslip 4]

Years of production left in the ground with the most optimistic reserve estimates (Oil & Gas Journal, World Oil)[citation needed]* Oil: 1,277,702/77/365= 45 years

* Gas: 1,239,000/47/365= 72 years

* Coal: 4,786,000/52/365= 252 years

Information from this wikipedia link you provide. The next paragraph of the same link is a warning about the nature of the problems of extracting the fuel and its inherent "bell Curve" nature.

 

Note that this calculation assumes that the product could be produced at a constant level for that number of years and that all of the reserves could be recovered. In reality, consumption of all three resources has been increasing. While this suggests that the resource will be used up more quickly, in reality, the production curve is much more akin to a bell curve. At some point in time, the production of each resource within an area, country, or globally will reach a maximum value, after which, the production will decline until it reaches a point where is no longer economically feasible or physically possible to produce. See Hubbert peak theory for detail on this decline curve with regard to petroleum.

Point being: there is less available reserves that can be economically produced for this many years at the rate of usage we are experiencing and the growth pattern of that usage.

The emphasis on " economically produced " is made to point out that as the fuel becomes more difficult to extract, it will become more expensive. As it becomes more expensive, it will also become an even more valuable resource and more subject to International disputes (ie: wars). Avoiding the wars is reason enough to find a replacement fuel.

[whale_shark 0]

the problem with global warming is bigger then people think it's not just it will few degrees warmer the whole climate will change causing the polar ice to melt and then you will have the problem in that that every city on coast will be at least partly under watter. Periods without rain will be longer so plants will grow slower and this changes the whole ecological system.The natural disasters will be more frequent and that will be a major problem just look what happened to New Orleans that kind of things could become "normal". Professor of physics on my college talked about this one time and he said something like this(about where is the real problem):"earth population is about 20 times greater than what it should be if we want to keep our environment unchanged with current standard of living." He also said that resources(oil and gas mostly) will be major problem in about 50 years and there could be big wars if some good way of replacing them isn't found. Someone posted how earth has mechanisms how it will keep things in normal, but that isn't likely because the rate at which this change happens is to big, in the past changes were much slower, but now they are so fast that whole system will fail. How to stop it- you can't without killing a big part of people because every person on earth wants the standard of modern world and more than a half of population doesn't have it yet so the things will only get worse.

[altenergy 0]

The problem starts with the governments who don't care about alternative fuel sources. they are the ones to blame,they should start acting.Global warming is real. don't listen to al gore, he spends 30,000 dollars on electric bill every month!and even if it's slowly happening we should start using alternative sources of energy because the oil is supporting terrorists and it won't be here in 30 years, so we should start acting now, cause in 30 years we'll say: "damn, we should have had stopped this".

[hibbso 0]

I think its a complete shamble too. Really, because in the earths lifetime its had nearly 10,000 iceages. 2,500 of them were complete iceages. They were all made by rising temperatures. Naturally. Just because we may have an iceage in a few hundred years time doesnt mean its the cause of global warming. Well technically it is global warming. But global warming is completely natural. Yeah ok we may be boosting it slightly but if you got a massive cloud and dumped it on the UK for 3 days or so the UK would drop in temperature by about 3 or 4 degrees. Its not gunna change the world climate down is it?

 

I wouldnt say global warming is a lie but i reckon its lie also in some sorta way.. If you get me.

 

 

If we all used solar panels and wind farms and used no fossil fules whatsoever the climate will still heat up

Edited August 3, 2007 by hibbso (see edit history)

[A W K 0]

Its too late to even get worried about global warming. These people are animals and will stop at nothing to help think they can "improve" the world. Its just a little too late and won't know how,when,or what is going to happen.

[dre 0]

Cars (along with anything burning fossil fuels) pump out gases that can kill you

If you start sucking the exhaust pipe, then you might die. Honestly, cows fart more gases per day than cars make, this global warming scam is alive and well because of profits and payoffs.

Global warming is real. don't listen to al gore, he spends 30,000 dollars on electric bill every month!

And did you know that Al Gore is one of the leading global warming activists? Obviously you don't know what you're talking about.
Interesting sites: https://www.heartland.org/error.html?artId=11548

http://www.verizon.net/central/mysite/index.html

Most people will say "Yeah, it sure seems like the Earth is warming." Go to the many other places that exist in the world and you'll find yourself mistaken. Just go to Russia and tell them that the Earth is warming...try it during the winter. They'd find it rather hopeful, since -40 Celsius temperatures are no fun.
Edited August 10, 2007 by dre (see edit history)

[Dungeon Master 0]

Im a profound believer of global warming and i highly disagree with your manifesto. Global warming is obviously anthropogenic, we should take action against it.

[itrainmonkeys 0]

I don't usually enjoy going to threads and seeing that I'm going to die and it's all my fault. I'm not really sure what to believe without much proof to my eyes. Is global warming real? Is it not? I'm not really sure. I've seen evidence coming from both sides about the proof of existance. We'll see what happens and I'm sure I won't have to deal with it in my lifetime.......at least I hope not.