jlhaslip 4 Report post Posted March 25, 2007 This is my "Day Job". If anyone has any questions about Carpentry, Cabinetmaking, Finish Carpentry, Timber Framing or Woodworking (in general), I would be pleased to assist them with find answers. I am not "ticketed", which means I haven't learned any bad habits from schools, but with more than a few years in Construction, and having worked from Concrete to Countertops, I am very experienced.And that is a fair to middling Teacher... Residential, Commercial, Industrial, Interior, Exterior, Renovations, whatever it takes to pay the bills... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Watermonkey 0 Report post Posted April 2, 2007 Try this on for size. Gross as it may sound, we're thinking of planting the melons in their own location down the hill from the garden over the leach field. Melons just take up too much room in the garden. With the deer, though, I'd need to put up a fence that could withstand a 50MPH wind gust and go down no more than 15" or whatever the standard depth is for the PVC piping in a leach field. How would I go about (sorry -aboot) constructing such a thing and what materials would I need? The space shouldn't need to be more than about a 12-15 foot square. Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jlhaslip 4 Report post Posted April 4, 2007 I would be tempted to construct 4 'panels' of the desired height and wide, then 'assemble' them where you need to protect the melons or whatever. Set a diagonal brace from panel to the neighbouring panel for stability. Anchor them by tying bricks or blocks to the 'panel' of sufficient weight to avoid the wind thing. Not requiring any 'posts' the Septic system is safe. Spacing the boards far apart will lessen the wind load. Or better yet, use stucco wire instead of boards for the panels. Less wind profile and the wire could also be stretched across the top since deer and critters can jump/climb 9 ft fences easily enough, but the top stucco wire may be effective in keeping them out.Use diagonals lower down as well and the whole thing should be wind/critter proof easily enough. Stucco wire comes in 4 ft wide rolls (I think) so that should be plenty large enough for a melon patch.Another thought would be to make small 'mounds' for each melon plant and not 'cultivate between them like a garden so these portable protective fences can be placed over individual plants and not the entire 15 x 15 area???Just a couple of thoughts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Watermonkey 0 Report post Posted April 5, 2007 (edited) I like the idea of panels that can be easily assembled and taken down for winter. I'm hearing a request for corn now too, but that means many more plants... and higher fence. Is corn worth the trouble? It is getting more and more expensive... I'll have to draw something out on paper and see what it'd take to accomplish it all. I'll detail my results when I've finished the enclosure. It'll probably look like a dog kennel when I'm through with it. Thanks for the ideas... Edited May 12, 2008 by Watermonkey (see edit history) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magic 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2008 I was wondering how to figure yards of gravel I would need. I am constructing a front porch it is 22.5' ft long by 6'. I was planning on digging about 4" down removing all the grass and weeds. Then filling it in with all gravel on top of a heavy weed stop. I would like to have the gravel about 2" to 3" above the grade. So the question is how do I determine how much gravel I would need ? Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jlhaslip 4 Report post Posted May 7, 2008 Volume = Length times Width times Depth  Length is given at 22.5 feet. Width is given at 6 feet. Depth is calculated at 4 inches below grade plus 2 inches above grade equals 6 inches ( .5 feet).  Volume = L x W x D  where L = 22.5, W = 6, D = .5.  Substituting:  Volume = 22.5 * 6 * .5 Volume = 67.5 Cubic Feet of Gravel  Convert from CuFt to CuYards : divide by 27 ( 3 * 3 * 3)  Gravel = 67.5 / 27 = 2.5 cubic yards  Quick tip, when you dig out the dirt, try to make certain that the level of the soil is higher next to the house and that there is some slope away from the foundation for loose water to drain away from the basement/foundation. You may need/want to add a perimeter of wood, like a pressure treated 2 x 6, to contain the gravel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magic 0 Report post Posted May 8, 2008 (edited) Thank you very much. Ya I was considering sloping it a way from the house. I forgot to add that little detail. Its nice to know that there is some one out there like your self to help with questions. I do alot of house hold remodling jobs around the house. I also have a ton of work to do here so you may get tired of hearing from me lol. Your help is very apeachated thank you very much. Edited May 8, 2008 by magic (see edit history) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magic 0 Report post Posted May 11, 2008 Ok I have another ? I am attaching the deck to the house, so can I instead of putting the 4x4 posts in the ground next to the house can I mount the posts to the ledger exstending it 10" past the lower part of the ledger for my 2X10 beams to mount? If I can I plan on Lag bolting it to the ledger into the house hopfully finding the house stud. I hope you can understand what I am asking. I am using 2x8 for my joists so the ledger will be a 2x8 and I am spacing my posts 5'6" apart. so the posts I mount to the leger will be 18" long so it will meet the top of the ledger then exstend 10" below it for my 2x10 beam. Will this be ok or do I need to put posts along the foundation of the house also? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jlhaslip 4 Report post Posted May 11, 2008 I don't understand why you are asking about using posts next to the house in addition to the 'ledger'.As I understand the issue, you are looking for a method to attach one side of a deck to a Wood frame wall?Simply lag bolt a 2 by 8 Horizontal Ledger to the wall and then have the Joists rest on top of the Ledger. Depending on the span/loads/etc, you might need to double up the Ledger. And definitely the ledger should be lag bolted to the framing studs, pre-drilling of course. Some jurisdictions require a 3 " bearing point for the joists. Others don't. If you need a Rim Joist on the decking, then a double Ledger would be required to carry the joist ends, too.I'll see if I can find a drawing to attach and you can see if the concept would work for you,*edit*Found a really nice set of drawings in a PDF format that should answer pretty much everything you need to know about this issue. It even calculates spans, beam sizes, post spacings, and many more details are supplied in it. Although it is written for a specific jurisdiction in the States, I'm reasonably certain that at worst, it will be a good place to start from in most parts of the world. Form_SampleDeckPlot07.pdf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magic 0 Report post Posted May 13, 2008 Ok Thank you. The drawings I have seen have posts next to the house. Thats why I asked I couldnt understand why they show them that way if you are attaching it to the house. Thanks again for your time, and the link. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iGuest 3 Report post Posted September 4, 2008 Replying to jlhaslip yes I am a high school student and I am going to go into carpentry I was wondering if it would be a good job to do-feedback by stephen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QueenBea 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2009 This is my "Day Job". If anyone has any questions about Carpentry, Cabinetmaking, Finish Carpentry, Timber Framing or Woodworking (in general), I would be pleased to assist them with find answers. I am not "ticketed", which means I haven't learned any bad habits from schools, but with more than a few years in Construction, and having worked from Concrete to Countertops, I am very experienced.And that is a fair to middling Teacher... Residential, Commercial, Industrial, Interior, Exterior, Renovations, whatever it takes to pay the bills... Hi I would like to ask if you know anyone or company that would be willing to take on an apprenticeship or would be willing to take a volunteer - my son has a city and guilds certificate and just needs to get some experience.Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
inverse_bloom 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2009 I did an intense short course in cabinet making, definitely interesting stuff although i was deterred by too many stories of chopped off fingers.They were like, you wanna be in this industry? don't be surprised if a couple of fingers go in the next 30 years. That's about as far as i will mention as to what i was told. I like the smell of freshly cut wood; such as pine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites