Nature Versus Nurture

[kev2310 0]

it has come to my attension there is debate over whether we are born into a certain position or role (eg:Royal family) or whether we are brought up to be what we are. As much as the charactaristics must be in your genes to be confident, and good with people, such qualities a kind would need, or to be raised that way from birth. If so then why should the Royal family only extend to the familt itself, surly we are looking for the best person to be King therefore we should choose somebody with the best qualities, and not somebody whom was born into the position. Also it rallies the piont that some members of the Royal family are actually forced into certain roles. My knowledge on the system is bleak although the piont im trying to make here is Nature-vs-Nuture, whats the outcome?

[PurPleKuSh 0]

i think that people are not born into who they are, but are a product of their enviroment. So royal family members already start learning too rule from a young age...but it still dosnt make it right. If two twin brothers were split up at birth, and one was sent to compton, LA, while the other was sent to beverally hills, LA, they would be two complete opposite people. One would be a hardened, tough person. While the other would most likely be a pompus, snob. People are a product of their enviroment. The people around them make them what and who they are.

[cangor 0]

Some people are born into what they are. That doesn't mean it's right or fair or they're the best for their job. Some people just get lucky, and, well, that's the way it is... life sucks. However, you can improve where you are in life by working hard and trying to excel... Just because you're born into a bad position doesn't mean you have to stay there. People aren't necessarily a product of their environment, either, but 90% of the time, hey, it's true.

[rvalkass 5]

There's two parts to your identity: what you think of yourself, and what other people think of you. Other people pllay a massive role in determining how you behave and who you are. Primary socialisation (what your family teaches you when you're a kid) gives you a basic set of rights and wrongs, good and bad etc. When you really change is in secondary socialisation: school, college, religion, the media etc. Spending time with certain people, reading certain things, watching certain progammes, it all adds up to form who you are. People tend to hang around with people who are very similar to themselves. This means that they will frequently hear their views, opinions, morals, values etc and less frequently hear those that oppose them. Gradually you accept the views of the people you are with and you all agree on them. You may be doing it subconsciously, but it happens.This determines who we are. So far we've found no gene that determines what sort of lifestyle you're going to have, whether you'll be a criminal or anything like that. Nurture wins hands down for me.

[JeremyServ 0]

It's amazing to me the lack of evidence that some people require to found beliefs upon for either nature or nurture concepts. Do you ever notice that? Scientists often say that homosexuality is a "nature" rather than something nurtured. Why do they say this? Because it's the prevailing wisdom of the day. It's not politically correct to suggest otherwise. I'm not saying anything either way, just observing. Whenever they do point out something, it's correllations, rather than a causal gene, etc. And yet everybody "knows" that homosexuality is something you are born with. They used to have the same prevailing wisdom about gender. Forget the fact that gender is determined on a genetic level. Chromosones & DNA. And still they try to disprove the differences. It seems that if we are different in gender, then somehow automatically one is inferior than the other, so we then can't say genders are actually different. Thank God for women, and thank God for men! Where would we be without either of them?

[zyzzyvette 0]

The whole "Nature vs. Nurture" thing is just a big ol' "black and white" fallacy; many psychologists say its both. What the split is between the two, well, who cares really, the Royals are just figureheads these days and its nunya bidness if and why someone else is gay.

[JeremyServ 0]

The whole "Nature vs. Nurture" thing is just a big ol' "black and white" fallacy; many psychologists say its both. What the split is between the two, well, who cares really, the Royals are just figureheads these days and its nunya bidness if and why someone else is gay.

Wow. touchy? nunmy bidness? Wasn't making a point about if and why, just about the question of nature vs nurture. This is one of my other points, that with this subject, like in the question of gender id, you better not even ask about it, because it's not "socially acceptable". Whatever happened to "objective science"?

[communitykat 0]

Um...I didn't think that guy was being touchy. Why do people even want to think about what other people do sexually with anything? That is a place that one should not venture. Next time you walk down the street pretend that everyone is thinking about how and what you have sex with. See? People shouldn't go there, and why the helk do they? I never understood. And then you know those people who are so ani-gay that end up being gay. Like in American Beauty, that Military Seargant? My best friends mom married a Seargant named *BLEEP* Pringle and he left her for another man. The Govonor of New Jersey. Really, the people that it worries seem to have some personal connection. Someone want to explain that to me?

[Kioku 0]

A person's personality is ultimately always changing from their relationships and reactions with other people. People try to observe others to find recognisable traits of themselves and subconciously mimic traits. This is more common between parent and child, but can happen on levels with other people. I guess a shorter way of saying this is that interactions with people usually have some effect on your personality, whether it be good or bad and you don't have much of a choice about it.In the end, life experiences and your interactions with others ultimately affect who you are and the world you're born into ( financially, socially, etc. ) will also affect who you will become. If one is born in another place and time in another financial situation, their mind will quite obviously develop in a different way and their personality and affect towards life in general will far contrast from their current one.

Edited February 2, 2007 by Kioku (see edit history)