True2Earn 0 Report post Posted May 30, 2006 (edited) I just conducted another experiment with one of my new domains that is still less than a week old. By executing a simple system I was able to quickly obtain 10 backlinks between a PageRank 3 and a PageRank 5 all pointing to my website. I was able to get another dozen backlinks that were a PageRank 2. Tomorrow, I will start again but this time I will be able to get about a hundred or more backlinks pointing to my website. And all of these backlinks are one way, from the high PR pages linking to mine. At this rate, I will be able to drive targeted traffic to my website and get a high ranking in the search engines. Oh, and part of my experiment is to not submit my site to the search engines. I am going to see how long it will take to get listed naturally instead of forcing it down their throats. If my experiments are successful, maybe I have a system that will make a lot of money. Who know? I will post back to this thread after I obtain my results tomorrow.Oh, and I will not reveal any of my secrets yet so there isn't any need in asking. But I will say that, over time, I'm revealing my strategy at Niche List. If you want to know exactly what I am doing you'll just have to follow at that website.Edit: the link is fixed. It is .info not .com Edited May 30, 2006 by True2Earn (see edit history) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
garbage 0 Report post Posted May 30, 2006 what are back links and what are they for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dooga 0 Report post Posted May 30, 2006 That site doesn't seem to work...And backlinks are sites that link to you, and the higher pagerank they are, the higher your pagerank will be (Pagerank is given by Google). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
illdevilinc 0 Report post Posted May 30, 2006 (edited) That site doesn't seem to work...And backlinks are sites that link to you, and the higher pagerank they are, the higher your pagerank will be (Pagerank is given by Google).I beleve the correct URL is instead of , and if that is the correct site i see that you are using Googles Adsence program. If you have used this program on the site, and are planning to only test with backlinks, your plan has already failed. Google Adsence, when put on ANY page will be indexed in there sandbox and probably get out of it alot faster then you think. The reason is that google's ad is content based. If you would like to not have google know about your site for any other reason besides the backlinks i would suggest not using Google Adsence. Good Luck with your experiment!!!,Illdevilinc Notice from jlhaslip: **editted** out the incorrect urls. Edited May 30, 2006 by jlhaslip (see edit history) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anwiii 17 Report post Posted May 30, 2006 (edited) I beleve the correct URL is *editted* instead of *editted*, and if that is the correct site i see that you are using Googles Adsence program. If you have used this program on the site, and are planning to only test with backlinks, your plan has already failed. Google Adsence, when put on ANY page will be indexed in there sandbox and probably get out of it alot faster then you think. The reason is that google's ad is content based. If you would like to not have google know about your site for any other reason besides the backlinks i would suggest not using Google Adsence. Good Luck with your experiment!!!,Illdevilinc google doesn't index through adsense. google has already been forthcoming about this, BUT just posting his link on trap will get him indexed. but i think his point was to just not submit his site to any search engines. back links and posts don't count in submitting ones site.all you need to creat targetted back links is to just use a program like ibp or arelis or some other program that does all the work for you including filling in most of the form to create the targetted backlink Notice from jlhaslip: *editted* out bad links. Edited May 30, 2006 by jlhaslip (see edit history) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
True2Earn 0 Report post Posted May 30, 2006 (edited) It looks like I had a typo in the link, it is NicheList.info and not .com. I had an 'E' where there shouldn't been one. And I wish I could edit those .com links out as that sex site don't need any free backlinks from a place as classy as Xisto. And even though I do have both IBP8 and Arelis I am not going to use them at all in this experiment. And I'm not going to submit it to any search engines or directories. Also, I have noticed from my logs that the site was crawled yesterday by Googlebot but it's not indexed yet. Â Yes, I do have Adsense on the website but it was just added today. In the beginning, it wasn't there. Since I've noticed it is actually getting hits already I might as well monetize it, just in case. Â EDIT: Oh, I have also found that it is better to have as few links leading out from your webpages as you can get by with. What you're looking for is a lot of one-way links from other "authorative" websites with high pageranks linking to you. That gives you credibility, thus placing you higher on the Google charts. The more outbound links you have on your own pages, the more your own PR tends to "leak" or "bleed" out to the page you are linked to. Edited May 30, 2006 by True2Earn (see edit history) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
garbage 0 Report post Posted May 30, 2006 That site doesn't seem to work...And backlinks are sites that link to you, and the higher pagerank they are, the higher your pagerank will be (Pagerank is given by Google). now i see. i had no idea thats what that was.. i will definately have to look into getting some back links Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
True2Earn 0 Report post Posted May 30, 2006 Everything seems to be progressing pretty good. It is just about noon here and already I have been able to acquire about 50 more backlinks in the range of PR3 to PR5 including a few PR6's. Not bad for a few hours of work. And the best part is they are all linking to me without me needing to link to them. Going to have to go to all my sites and update them since that's what Google really likes.As of right now I am not sure if I am going to reveal all of my secrets, especially the most powerful ones. If too many people find out, it may not be as effective and there are people who would abuse it. It's what happened to Blog and Ping when it used to be so effective. But the search engines know all about it and you can get yourself in a bind using it.My next post later today at Niche List will be revealing more information that you will find valuable. I'm not sure if I'm going to add to it every day or every couple of days. I'll just have to wait and see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anwiii 17 Report post Posted May 30, 2006 It looks like I had a typo in the link, it is NicheList.info and not .com. I had an 'E' where there shouldn't been one. And I wish I could edit those .com links out as that sex site don't need any free backlinks from a place as classy as Xisto. And even though I do have both IBP8 and Arelis I am not going to use them at all in this experiment. And I'm not going to submit it to any search engines or directories. Also, I have noticed from my logs that the site was crawled yesterday by Googlebot but it's not indexed yet.  Yes, I do have Adsense on the website but it was just added today. In the beginning, it wasn't there. Since I've noticed it is actually getting hits already I might as well monetize it, just in case.  EDIT: Oh, I have also found that it is better to have as few links leading out from your webpages as you can get by with. What you're looking for is a lot of one-way links from other "authorative" websites with high pageranks linking to you. That gives you credibility, thus placing you higher on the Google charts. The more outbound links you have on your own pages, the more your own PR tends to "leak" or "bleed" out to the page you are linked to.  don't believe everything you read. i read that site on google's page rank. i think that googles page rank system is all in the #'s. i don't feel your pr leaks if you have outbound links if you adjust everything to the correct ratios and only google and god knows the truth in was is optimal i do agree that submitting your site to some search engines can actually hurt your rankings because they would rather find you on the net AND WILL if you have quality content that can be supported with inbound links, i don't agree that that is for all search engines and DIRECTORIES. that's just obvious with the directories you have to hand submit to like dmoz. so it's best, once your site is complete, to submit to those sources up front.  i also didn't agree with the scenario of comparison of the webmaster that takes the shortcuts to get ranked high to the one that doesn't. that is 100% false and no facts to back what was on the website. the truth is, taking shortcuts can get you ranked higher and quicker, and ylou reap the a lot of the rewards in the short run when you take the shortcuts or try to fool the search engines. problem is, google and other search engines will penalize you in the long run within ranking your site or black listing your whole site all together. so it really just depends what your objectives are for your online marketing. their are pros and cons to both ways  if i was going to do an experiment, i would have created about 5 seperate pages with different scenarios and combinations of seo and non seo. also although it hasn't been supported either way, but I BELIEVE the domain name can affect your page rankings in some search engines so there really is a lot to consider.  the one thing i believe highly in what i read on that one site is that google is the leader in search engines and a site should be optimized for google because of that one fact.  if you have arelis or ipb, then why wouldn't you use them for your inbound links? are you doing it manually or have another program to get your inbound links? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul 0 Report post Posted May 30, 2006 Can u PM the link or post it here... I want to see this site that seems to be able to medd around with even Google :)Can u provide any proof of your claims? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
True2Earn 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2006 Can u PM the link or post it here... I want to see this site that seems to be able to medd around with even Google Can u provide any proof of your claims?All in good time. If I say too much I'll give away the secret and I can't do that now, can I? But I will say this; apparently, I am the only person who knows about a certain PR5 website as I am the only person who has a link from them. For now, I'm going to keep it that way so I can get as many PR5 backlinks as I can from it. This particular website is a recent discovery of mine and I'm going to take advantage of it.But, of course, this is only one of many sources I have. This is a very powerful method of getting backlinks and there aren't too many people who know it... yet. Soon, all of that is going to change. I hope this system is not abused in the future like so many others have.At the time I'm writing this, I must have close to 1000 backlinks in the range of PR2 to PR6, I lost count a while back. The only thing I'm waiting for is to get indexed as I have already been crawled by the major search engines (all without submitting my site to them). Now, it's time to get back to work... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Avalon 1 Report post Posted June 1, 2006 Let me understand this. You say you have many linkbacks from sites that have page ranks of between 3 and 5. Therefore, one would think these sites with such high page rankings would be listed in Google. One would also think that if I was to type "link:http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/; in a Google search, I would see a list of these pages that link to your site. However, when I do this, no links at all are found. Now if I type a seach for links to my site like this, "link:http://www.mudmall.com/;, then a list of sites linking to my site is shown, a small list I admit, but a list nonetheless. To see how effective this type of search is, try searching for "link:https://www.microsoft.com/de-de; and you will see there are around 191,000 pages linking to the Microsoft site. Out of interest, "link:https://www.google.de/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=BwkjVKfAD8uH8QfckIGgCQ&gws_rd=ssl; generates a list of 1,600,000 links, no surprise there.How do you explain that you supposedly have PR2 to PR5 sites linking to your site, yet Google cannot find these links? Something doesn't look right here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anwiii 17 Report post Posted June 1, 2006 How do you explain that you supposedly have PR2 to PR5 sites linking to your site, yet Google cannot find these links? Something doesn't look right here. he doesn't have to. i will. it doesn't take a genious to know that he just obtained his links and posted about them. google obviously hasn't updated their search results or google hasn't crawled the sites yeteither way, everything looked on the up and up with the guy aside from me not agreeing with everything he wrote about pr and seo, but other than that, i believe he's trying to share his experiment with everyone so let him....sheeeeesh... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2006 (edited) google obviously hasn't updated their search results Google is CONSTANTLY updating their search results! If you have a link from a PR5 page, Google will index your site within 48 hours (it visits most PR5 pages every 48hours)A few days ago, I placed a link to a brand new site I made for a client from a PR7 page and it was indexed in less than 30 hours! Edited June 1, 2006 by Paul (see edit history) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Avalon 1 Report post Posted June 2, 2006 google obviously hasn't updated their search resultsYou could be right, time will tell I guess. I'll be watching with interest to see if these links appear in Google. It just seems 'too good to be true' for me. I suspect he eventually intends to sell his 'secret', therefore I, and probably others, would like to be certain it is not just another con job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites