About Ipb Trial 2.0 Legality, Registering, etc

[htdefiant 0]

I had a chat with IPS in November 05...I wish I could find the e-mail. They said that me using IPB 2.0 Trial opensource was fully legal. They said that I did not have to register with IPS, only notified me that 2.0 trial has some security issues. Because of that discussion, my synagogue continues to use IPB 2.0. Again, it is not pirated, it is fully legal, and does not need any licence. I would like to clear up that issue.

[BuffaloHelp 24]

A detailed notification was sent to sales and billing of Invision Power Board support line. Please check back later for an official answer.Thank you.

[DogEater008 0]

can anyone tell me where to download version 2.0 trial?.. did they disabled any features in the trial version?.. just wondering....

[MaineFishing45 0]

DogEater008... you are setting your self up in my postion, please EVERYONE check this out. http://forums.xisto.com/topic/34433-accused-of-hacking/ That briefly explains a lot off stuff, and don't do anything till you get an offical word like BuffaloHelp says!

[Inspiron 0]

can anyone tell me where to download version 2.0 trial?..
did they disabled any features in the trial version?.. just wondering....

Not easy to find.. But I managed to anyway...

Here's the link for the free Invision Power Board 2.0.0 Final Trial (Unlimited Trial)
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According to this website, this version would be the last trial version of the Invision Power Board family. Meaning in future, there might not be any trial versions available for download again, due to the fact that people are using the boards without proper licenses.

EDIT: I've accidently found another download link
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Notice from BuffaloHELP:

Since you didn't know what I was about to post, I will not issue a warning. Removed links.

Edited March 10, 2006 by BuffaloHELP (see edit history)

[BuffaloHelp 24]

In regards to my questions to IPS, this is an email response back from the head sales department:

 

1) Q: Are you still offering Invision Power Board trial version?

 

A: No, we no longer provide a free trial version of IPB other than our

limited Live Demo.

 

2) Q: Where and how would a person go about obtaining this trial

version?

 

A: No longer provided. See A1.

 

3) Q: How would you classify past trial versions--legal or illegal?

 

A: If you downloaded the trial version prior to IPS halting it's

release it is legal to use on a trial basis. In the event that you decide to

use the software full time, therfore no longer being a trial, you are

required to purchase a full license.

 

If the software was downloaded from a source other then IPS it is

illegal to install and use.

 

The original trial had limits of a certain number of posts or members

etc. Unfortunately, I do not remember what those limits were but I would

say that someone who has been using the "Trial" version for more than a

few months is someone who intends to use it on a permanent basis and

should therefore purchase a license for use.

 

4) Q: If a person obtained a trial version through Invision Power

Board's website and has it, can that person still use it today?

 

See my previous answer. Any trial versions used on a permanent basis

should be licensed.

 

5: Q: Search engines are showing places that can download past trial

versions, including 2.1.x (which leads to your site). Is this legal?

 

No it is not. We would urge you and thank you in advance to report any

such sites here: http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/

 

Regards,

 

Debbie Ruff

IPS Customer Relations

Peterborough, UK

Invision Power Services, Inc.

The question comes down to the underlined part of the answer: is it still legal to use a trial version if I downloaded from IPS directly back in the days? The official answer is YES. However, the answer continues to say that if you had it for few months you should purchase a license. This means that it wasn't meant for to be used after the trial period or the limitation has reached.

 

So what defines a trial period? Is it from the day you downloaded, let's say May 2005 till July 2005? Is it from the time of the installation until the limitation or from the version release date and few months thereafter? The definition I found from the web is a time when an item can be tested but did not specify when the actual time measure begins--the time of obtain and ownership or the time of actual usage. Therefore, I am going with the popular acceptance of "from the time of installation." However, this is with a condition. As the reply from IPS states that if you have it for few months or so, you should purchase it. This will be the only condition which I will not suspend any hosting account with a trial version installed.

 

But, if OpaQue receives one little comment about your forum's validity at a first sight your hosting will be terminated. I'm not about to lose my hosting and the rest of Xisto because of another's disregard for the copyright law.

 

Okay? Everyone happy?

 

PS. My apologies go out to MaineFishing45 for his inconveniences during this deposition.

[MaineFishing45 0]

PS. My apologies go out to MaineFishing45 for his inconveniences during this deposition.

I told you that I knew what I was talking about . So that means I can get my board back and still have time to buy the licensed version, and then upgrade my files right? I think so, so I will get my board back up ASAP when I get home and will PM you when I am purchasing the licensed version, so that there well be no legal issues. Thanks BuffaloHELP.

[htdefiant 0]

Ok...but lets keep in mind it is still legal. I did download it when it was legal so I am not required to get a licence. IPS recommends this to they can sell you more stuff. Note: you cannot share the 2.0.0 trial files with anyone, that is illegal.

[MaineFishing45 0]

Yes we all do know that. But what could happen is that Xisto can get reported by some (to be nice) and say blah blah blah they pirated a copy... and probably Invision gives you some benifit for reporting people, then they go straight to the source http://forums.xisto.com/ or Xisto Corp and say well "We haves this report..." why are you pirating our software and da ta da. We are going to sue you, and well we get shutdown, and everyone is pissed!

 

Or they take our license away, and say Good Bye Board, and we can't run IPB on these Xisto servers.

[htdefiant 0]

:breaths sigh of relief:
 

Hello,

Thank goodness. Our congregation can still use our board. I am still confused though. What is the issue at Xisto.com? Can we not do that here? Thanks guys.

That's fine. We always recommend that you upgrade anyway because the older versions of IPB are no longer secure and there are no security patches released for them.

Regards,

Debbie Ruff
IPS Customer Relations
Peterborough, UK
Invision Power Services, Inc.
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[Inspiron 0]

Notice from BuffaloHELP: Since you didn't know what I was about to post, I will not issue a warning. Removed links.

OK BuffaloHELP I've got the picture. I didn't know that it had been considered pretty illegal to download previous versions of IPB trial. Anyway, we all can use the Invision Free boards instead of the Power Boards. They pretty much work the same.

And thank for not issuing a warning. A lesson learnt, by accident.
Well this proves to people that you are an understanding admin.

[MaineFishing45 0]

That they can pull the same stunt that BuffaloHELP wanted to aviod. Like he said I could have a pirated version or something or I got the copy and am using it, after they say its done. But I don't see what the big deal with is. Were not making money, I mean ur a Chuch org, and I am a school person. I could understand if we were profiting off it.---Rsp---Response to HT's post

Edited March 10, 2006 by MaineFishing45 (see edit history)

[Saint_Michael 3]

To clean this topic the only legal version of IPB board is the 2.1.x series board. any site offering to download the board 2.1.x or below is a illegal copy and nulled board are illegal no matter what people say due to the fact that the coding is edited to make it null. Also invision's main site does not provide actual downloads for full copies. If you can afford the price tag for the full legal board then purchase it if not then find a alternate board to use.also it is recommend that if the board is 2.0.4 or below do not upload it to a xisto related site cause if caught you will lose your hosting privilages and reported as well.So i pay very close attention to that little tidbit of info.