Sexuality Confused People

[JasperIk 0]

So two days ago someone adds me on msn. Now It confused me because not many places have my username. So finally the person gets on and he IMs me, and eventually i replied, because i wasnt near my computer when he first IMd me.So we start talking, and he starts asking me questions like where i am from, how old i am , you know those kind of questions. And he keeps saying sorry every five seconds (which i seem to attract those kind of guys, sorry for this sorry for that) about asking about a scary movie, and i hadnt seen it, so he says sorry 50 million times because he asked that question. So he starts asking me guys i like, and he names off some guys then names girls. By now i am just bored out of my mind, and i can already tell he is just a sexuality confused kid.So I ask him, are you gay or "bi"?And of course he answers "bi", and i respond right...because i know his type..look at a guy think he is kind of hot, omg im bi im bi, his type makes me sick. So being the anit bisexual i am I say, so your a liesexual. And i ask him my typical question i ask every "bi" because their answer to this question is hilarious.I ask "So If i was dating you, and a hot girl came into your life, would you date us both, cuz you know you gotta deal with both your needs" and his reponse? "Of course" So i am just like okay so...forget about 'my' feelings, you gotta take care of your needs. So at that point i just have NO respect for him, and he doesnt seem to understand the problem. So he continues to talk to me, and hes like well i like guys...but only some guys ..and he just continues giving me this big sob story about how he is soooo confused, because you know its so my problem. Meanwhile i am just throwing insults at him, and he is just completly too stupid to understand that i am insulting him...and hes like your such a nice guy, and all this crap. And hes just a cry baby, hes telling me what kind of movies he likes, which were all chick flicks. All the books he reads are about gay guys, okay to me he is just has made himself think he likes guys...because i dont think if he honestly tried to go out with one he would be able to, he just thinks about sex (which most "bi" people do)And to put icing on the cake, he sends me an e mail this morning stating I am the one , and that i have made him WANT to be gay. This guy is only 16, hes just a sexuality confused kid...and he lives across country from me, why in the world would i want to be with him, what makes him think i would be with such a moron? I just am soo sick of people throwing their sexuality problems at me, yeah i am gay but me being gay is my problem, just like you being "bi" or gay is YOUR problem, i dealt with my own hardships i dont want to deal with anyone elses. In the past two years its just been this EXPLOSION of like sexuality confused people. Most of my friends have decided, and yeah i said decided, to be bi. Okay especially the girls. Like every time i turn around another one of my friends is bi, but all they want to do is make out with girls, and some dont even want to do that. Like the only thing i agree with in the word bisexuality is the word sex. And its always the goth/punk girls like if you wear black its like the thing to be bi. It pisses me off.How are real gay people, supposed to be treated with respect with liesexuals go around having sex with everyone, making gays look really bad. How is anyone supposed to take us serious when little 13, 14 year old girls are like im a lesbian, or i am bi..when they just learned what that meant a year before...and only think women are pretty. Like so i think some girls are beautiful, but i dont want to have a relationship with them, so i am not bi...but people are just like well I think some girls are pretty, or i think some guys are hot..i must be bi..who cares if i cant really see myself in an actually LOVING relationship with them. I think its just a whole self esteem issue too, girls have soo many self esteem issues growing up that they are like well if i can be this girl, why i dont i be with them...i mean alot of bisexual girls i know arent pretty, and a lot of not pretty girls i have known end up being bi...or lesbian cuz no guy likes them. And with guys, they are either just horny and want to have sex with anything that walks OR they are gay, but cant admit to themselves so they just say they are bi. No this rant isnt exactly about bisexuals, just i am so sick of KIDS worrying about what gender they are attracted too...and i am just sick of everyone thinking its so fricking cool to be gay. Why do you think so many gay people commit suicide? Because to actually BE gay is fricking hard...but kids dont seem to get that, cuz they arent really gay/bi they just can say they are straight whenever they want to, cuz they arent actually gay. But for those who really are gay it makes us lose respect from people, when every sex obssessed 14 year old is like look at me look at me, i am gay or i am bi...such attention whores. Meanwhile the real gay people are looking at them going wtf. I just want to shove all the sexuality confused, or sexuality greedy people on some island, and be like there...be greedy and confused out of our ways. So people can see that REAL gay people have hearts and were not just sex hungry morons like you all. Just cuz you cant figure out wtf you are doesnt mean you have to bring us down with you.

[Albus Dumbledore 0]

i can totaly agree with what you are saying, except that i have had younger do things like that..lol its a long story *im not gay but on myspace i had not sure for orientation* and it was just weird he imed me asking a/s/l and i told him jsut cuz i dunno who he was and i asked him a/s/l.. and im like dang.. he was 10 y/o >_< unbelivable but like i said, everything you said above is true lol i can barley stand them too

[lodd 0]

I can definitely see what you mean. I have to confess that this is how i view most gays and bi's. As people who are only in it for sex. I'm not sure where this view came from, tv, paper or internet, but that's how i've viewed gays and bi's for the past 3-4 years. It is VERY sad that these kids (emphasis on kids) are flaunting something which the barely understand. I'm not sure if their expression shows a faster maturity in this age or if it shows their complete and utter naivete. Unfortunately, I've met some 12 y/o girls over the net that casually talk about giving their boyfriends blowjobs! I really wish that their parents would play a more active role in their lives and help them through these times when they feel sexually, emotionally and psychogically confused.

[xaetos 0]

People like that bother me.. they always have. Its just another thing that people think they can conform to, just to make it look like they're different in yet another way. I know a few guys who are actually gay, and a few girls, but all the people I know who say they're bi are the ones I never really took seriously. They're the people who do things because its cool and because people will look at them as different because of it. You can always tell which is which..Someone should explain to the 10yrolds that you can't know if you're bi or gay when you're that young. You might have an idea, or know somethings odd when you compare yourself to your friends, but thats about it.. you can't know for sure. I know a girl who said she was a lesbian when she was.. 12. That lasted about a month, until she found a boyfriend. I guess she "changed her mind", or something. All that being said, I could have no idea what I'm talking about, since I'm straight. This is just what I've happened to notice..

[EJay 0]

Life is about confusion, bad choices, bad influence. Its just who we are. I was "sexually confused" about myself last year. Though now that I think about it I am bi, the fricken response to the question is, "Would I be commited to the guy I was dating?" If your not commited to a relationship, of course your going to seek something new. Though dating a guy and a girl is really retarded, unless all three of you are dating Tho that is another story, for another time. Sexual Confusion is a part of a young persons growing up, or upbringing. Just because people talk casually about Blow Jobs dosent make them a bad person. They could be a honor(?) student and fo this stuff. Its because of peer pressure, nothing else.

[JasperIk 0]

Being sexually confused is NOT a part of growing up. It just recently has become an excuse to sleep around, and act like your something you aren't. I was never confused about my sexuality, you know why? Because i didn't dwel on it, i didnt go around sleeping with everyone cuz omg i thought omg what if i am gay. At 10 years old sexuality was further from my mind, i still wanted to play with my army men and squirt people with squirt guns...and now 10 year olds ( i did meet a 10 year old "bi" girl i was like wth...) are so "smart" about sex, and sexuality.... what you are has never been such an issue since probably the past 10 years, with all this media highlighting the "gay lifestyle" (highlighting a lot of bad things, that i personally am not exactly thrilled about, or they exagerate our behaviors..cuz you know every gay guy wears tight pants, and talks in a high voice, and has a limp wrist... ) If they wouldnt jam homosexualy down people's throws, kids wouldnt be so damn confused...i mean a kids mind is like a sponge.I am not saying the media makes people gay...i never watched tv when i was younger, and i am gay- but i was never confused. I think the media just glamourfies things, and makes kids confused cuz kids want a cool lifestyle...so they want this lifestyle that they cant fully have, because you either are gay or your not. and Ejay with your whole if i am in a committed relationship you wont go with a girl...if you dont want to be with the guy break up with him, don't be so selfish. You cant just say your bi, or gay ... untill your done with puberty..or have even began it...because your brain is still growing and its confused..and labeling yourself. And even saying bi "curious" is labeling..why do you even have to be with anyone at 13..14..or even 15? You don't. If you wouldnt dwell on sex, and sexuality your life would be less complicated and the answer to "what" you are will come faster cuz your not so busy trying to be something you aren't (whether that be straight, gay or "bi") Im just soo fricking sick of the excuses....

[Cerebral Stasis 0]

I think you should make a compendium of conversations such as that one, JasperIK. They sound like an amusing read.What really pisses me off is that these sexually confused people around going around having all this sex... and reproducing, carrying on their stupidity to the next generation, while the smart people of this world are left sitting in front of their computers, waxing their rods to pornography. What would someone see in someone who dresses like a ganster (meaning they look like they are the sole survivor of a journey through a burning desert, being chased by flesh-eating zombies that happened to fall into a barrel of "bling" and come out with a bit of it attached).To be more on-topic, however, I agree that the main problem is that kids get wrapped up in sexuality at too young of an age. Then, they don't properly understand what it is or how it should be taken care of when the time comes, and they are left ignorant to the way that things should be.

[terminal2k 0]

well its a bit like the world that children see today, young girls growing up seeing britney spears and her friends all dressing and acting like sluts and that is how they behave, then there is all the media attention on being gay and impressionable kids think "OMG i just looked at a person of the same sex and found them attractive i must be gay now" I don't think its any one particular groups fault but we're introducing our kids to all this at way too young an age, kids need to go back to playing games with each other and not being on the internet and watching tv.

[Albus Dumbledore 0]

What would someone see in someone who dresses like a ganster (meaning they look like they are the sole survivor of a journey through a burning desert, being chased by flesh-eating zombies that happened to fall into a barrel of "bling" and come out with a bit of it attached).

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lol!! omg i cant stop laughing..but personally i think that the erm

ganster (meaning they look like they are the sole survivor of a journey through a burning desert, being chased by flesh-eating zombies that happened to fall into a barrel of "bling" and come out with a bit of it attached).

are soo stupid now adays...they think they are bloods and crips, and they are such gangsters that noone will screw with themm..im waiting for the day that they get the *bleep* beat out of them then what will they have to say.. but thats off topic...

 

most of the teens who are going through puberty, are not really sexually confused, but are saying they are somthing they are not, because they want to look around and see what they can compare to for ex: Breast size.. etc... or they are just plain up stupid and are craved for some kind of sex because they are so stupid.'

 

or..now adays there is soo much peer pressure *pressure put on one by their fellow peers, for those who dont know* on us teens about having a girlfriend, or boyfriend..and they have tryed but never got one so they are going for somthing else..to have a mate of the same sex..

 

but the point is they still cant label themselves somthing until they have left puberty and acculy gotten a life.. like someone said up there^^^

[HoRuS 0]

Heh, I once had a collegue, who was sexually confused as well. At first I hang out with him cuz he appeared hetero to me and when I got to know him well, it came out he was confused as well and that he was attracted to me... omg! At that time I had a girlfriend and he tried everything to brake us up, even call me in the middle of the night, that's when I broke all contact with him, cause thats just sick.He told me once, he was like that because his dad didn't give him the attention and love that a kid needed, so I believe it can be possible this kinda confusion partly depends on how people are raised.

[Cerebral Stasis 0]

I don't see how being a bit neglected as a child would be the one factor that would make one a homosexual. There has to be a lot more to it than that, whether it be genes or upbringing, depending on what you want to believe.For example, if neglegence caused homosexuality, then why aren't all neglected kids homosexuals, and why haven't all homosexuals been neglected as a child? There are too many factors to decide what it is at the moment, but as I said, I don't see how being neglected would cause that (if anything, I'd think it would make one into a self-righteous brat).

[morosophos 0]

Sexuality is a deep, personal thing. As for its origin, experiences, genetics, and other things are likely all factors. It was just recently shown that gay men react to other men the same way women do in respect to changes in body chemistry, hormones, and pherimones. That said, we can see that being sexually confused is something not easily effected by something physical. Instead, there has to be a mental component. So if someone is sexually confused, that person has probably convinced, or is attempting to convince, himself or herself that his or her sexual preference is not what it truly is. It seems that this is most common in soi-disant bisexuals, who are truly people just malcontent with themselves and need time to outgrow it.I believe that there are true bisexuals, but these people can be people of discipline and morals--they're not all necessarily the steriotypical philanderers. Being bisexual means members of both genders appeal to one on equal levels, not that the one is an indescriminate ****.

[Joshua 0]

Got some intelligent conversation here on the subject. I'll definitely agree that calling oneself "bi" is just an excuse for sleeping around. Being a Christian, I obviously think it's wrong. However, I don't necessarily think a person who's "gay" or "bi" has a choice in the matter, any more then I think a guy who sleeps with every girl in sight has a choice in the matter.

True sin is of the heart, and the Bible says that before finding Jesus we are slaves to our lusts, our sins, our evil desires. Even if we could control the outward manifestations of those lusts (i.e. sex outside of marriage, pornography, murder) we would still be guilty. As 1 Samuel 16:7 says, God doesn't look on the outward appearance, but on the heart.

I've heard it said that we're not just guilty of what we have done, but what we would have done if we could've gotten away with it and no one would have known. Biblically, just looking on someone and lusting after them in our hearts means we're guilty of adultery (Mt. 5:28). Biblically, just hating someone means we're guilty of murder (1 Jn. 3:15). Biblically, just wanting what someone else has means we're guilty of stealing, the Bible calls it coveting and says not to do it just like not stealing physically (Deut. 5:21).

We are all guilty. I see the human race like a self-help group Any one of us could walk into a group and say "Hi, my name is _____ and I'm a sinner." And everyone else could say "Hi _____." Point is, we're all guilty, and the penalty is eternal death, or separation from God (Rom. 6:23). The Bible often speaks of life as eternal life and death as eternal death.

It's not about how good we are, but finding mercy through Jesus so that we are made new people inside, and freed from our lusts. So yes, I consider homosexuality a sin. I consider it in the same area as premarital sex, pornography, adultery, bestiality, and lusting after someone/wanting to have sex with them. I doubt any human on the earth right now isn't guilty of that last one.

No, the Bible doesn't excuse such things as ok. But neither does the Bible say any of us aren't guilty, except Jesus. As Romans 3:19 says, the whole world is guilty before God. All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.

So then, this leaves me with an interesting dilemma. I can't agree with someone and say homosexuality is ok. But I also can't berate them and say "You're such an awful person" without pointing the finger at myself as well. For I am just as guilty. I haven't found these eternal treasures by any goodness of my own, but by God's mercy. It's why Jesus says in Luke 13, unless we repent we will all likewise perish.

The key isn't in being good people, but in admitting we aren't and humbly coming to Jesus. Which was justified before God, the one who did good deeds or the one who admitted he was evil?

Luke 18:9 And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others: 10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

So you see, I can't say you or anyone else is especially guilty. The whole world is guilty before God, and guilty of eternal separation and punishment apart from His presence. And that means me too. Fortunately, Jesus' payment is big enough for all sins, and I am guilty of murder, adultery, stealing, and lying according to the Bible, just for starters.

I'm just a jer-k saved by grace, and the Bible doesn't point the finger at one specific group, it points the finger at all of us and says "Repent."
Edited February 13, 2006 by Joshua (see edit history)