Tyssen

The code tag can also be applied to code that is written inline with other text and for which you don't want pre-formatting.

Yahoo didn't arrive until 1996. Tim Berners-Lee's first web server info.cern.ch was started in 1991.

For all you new people I will tell you about this game and hope that you can be one of thounds that are playing runescape daily.

So where are you supplying this info exactly?

Sorry Tyssen, I disagree. I've seen the damage it can do.

Maybe I should've said simplistic view. In my opinion people who do damage to themselves with drugs already have that 'loser' inside them. I know/have known plenty of people who have used drugs but no-one I've known has ever had a problem with them and very few of them I would consider losers. The sort of people I'm talking about include successful business people and parents.

Certainly there are plenty of losers who use drugs and people for whom drugs have made them bigger losers than what they already were, but to say that every person who has ever used drugs is a loser is just too much of a blanket statement. For instance, this survey indicates that the percentages of people who have used drugs in their lifetime is nearly 40% in both Australia & the US. Can you honestly say that you think nearly half the population of your country (let's assume Canada isn't too far off those stats as well) are losers?

Drugs are for Losers.

That's an extremely short-sighted view in my opinion.

There is no acceptable reason for cheating.

Except when you're playing your Grandma at poker.

Why do you want to hide your CSS anyway? It's highly unlikely you're going to be doing anything that no-one else has done before.

You see guys ramming into each other.

You can see that in rugby too except that they don't need to wear helmets and padding.

Australian Rules Football.

Are you talking about this happening without the page reloading? If so, you want to look into AJAX, not PHP.

The dog IS gonna pee all over the placeIt is NOT gonna learn everything you try to teach it...
It will take your stuff at two a clock at night and chew on it
It is gonna whine all night so you cant sleep before your exams
it is NOT gonna be the perfect dog who runs beside you on the fields on a shiny day
But it IS gonna run away and not come back when you take of the leash
and you ARE, depending on where you live, gonna spend a lot of time in the cold rain with it...
It have to pee every morning and evening when you're cold and tired and in your PJ
And it CAN'T be home alone for long without ruining stuff
AND THE LIST CONTINUES ANOTHER 10 PAGES!

It should also be pointed out that most of the behaviour on that list doesn't last for ever (well, not for all dogs anyway).

Whether you believe in a "Christian" God, or any God at all, there is an influence there which will impact our opinions which has as its root the religious beliefs we hold, so I suspect, as does Tyssen, that it will be nearly impossible to dis-allow Religion from this debate.

That wasn't actually what I was hinting at. There's so many obviously religious people on this board that I felt sure that it would be too much for someone to resist bringing it up.

In this discussion i would like you to please NOT include religion.

10-1 that someone in this thread includes religion anyway.

If it pees on the carpet, you will have to clean it up!

One of the advantages of having hardwood floors.

So anyway, I think it would be better to pick an environment and stick with it - either IIS on Windows with ASP, or Apache on Linux with PHP.

It doesn't have to be that way. Install something like XAMPP on Windows and you can run PHP under Apache and ASP under IIS. You have to stop and start each server each time you swap from one to another, but other than that they work just fine on the same machine.

Hmm... I see your concern but I don't see a way out. Perhaps you can direct me to someplace that explicitly details potential problems with relative positioning all the way? I've used it to some success so far, that's why I designed the script that way. Would you mind discussing the idea at greater length with me, if the need arises?

 

The problem with relative/absolute positioning is that CSS newbies often don't understand the concept of 'positioning context' whereby an element takes its positioning coordinates from the nearest parent element with positon: relative/absolute set. In the absence of a parent with that, it defaults to the body.

 

So, speaking from my experience on CSSCreator, creating CSS layouts full of positioning is likely to cause more problems than it solves. Positioning requires that both the element and a parent element have position: relative/absolute set. If you don't know that and you edit position:relative out of something cos you think it's not needed, your layout can go haywire. I've seen enough people posting problems on there do do with creating layouts in Dreamweaver's design view mode which don't work to know that it is a real concern.

 

Using margins/padding only involves setting the properties on the element in question. It doesn't require a setting on the parent element for it to work.

 

You also mention that you hope experienced CSS coders will use it too. Well I reckon it's a fair bet that if the code that is turned out uses relative positioning in favour of margins, that it won't be held in too high a regard.

 

EDIT: I've just given it a go and I'm afraid you've got a long way to go. Choosing the 'without stripping option' gave me back HTML code full of tables! And choosing the stripping option simply replaced all the tables with divs at the same time leaving table-specific info in place (cellpadding etc.).

And the produced code has two other major flaws:

1. It produces inline styles attached to each HTML tag which is pretty much pointless. The idea behind CSS is to separate content from presentation. Using inline CSS like that is no better than using font tags.

2. It turns everything into divs! Even tags that it shouldn't like <select> etc. (Using the 'stripping' option actually removes perfectly valid HTML like <option> etc.) You can't turn everything into a div. There's all the other tags like h1, h2 etc., p, ul, li, ol, blockquote etc. that should be used.

 

I hate to sound harsh, but from the one test I've given your app, I wouldn't recommend that you release it for public consumption.

I think the look of the site is far less important than the actual CSS-based code it outputs and as I said on CSSCreator, I'd be a bit worried if you used relative positioning for everything.

i dont really know what changes have been made to it xcept for the looks and appearence of it

It has increased support for CSS2 (while everyone else is moving onto CSS3).

While I think it's quite admirable that you've developed your own browser, wouldn't it be better to eliminate all runtime errors before releasing it? And how standards-compliant is it? Which rendering engine is it based on or have you created your own from scratch?

Great job. One of the few Flash sites I've seen recently that I've actually been impressed with (although it took me a while to realise the navigation was at the bottom). But year, just tone down the self back-patting a bit.

Their culture is not built upon the same principles as Western civilization, so their purposes and motives behind this technology must be veiled and nefarious.

While I'm not necessarily disagreeing that they're out to cause trouble, to say that they're nefarious just because they're not Western is the sort of attitude that's causing the Western world so much trouble with the Middle East these days.

Maybe make the arrows for navigating through the pictures a bit lighter because they're hard to spot at first glance.

Window moving/resizing scripts are, in my opinion, one of the rudest and most annoying things that javascript can do. I've got my window set the way it is for a reason - cos I like it that way. I don't want the designer of a site I haven't even seen yet to change my window without even asking me. It's like me walking into someone else's house and moving their furniture around.

You need to set up your machine to run as a web server. If you've got XP Pro, you can do it under IIS - just add your script to a folder in Inetpub/wwwroot/ and then in your browser go to LOCALHOST/nameOfTheFolder/nameOfFile.php. (If IIS isn't already installed, go to Control Panel/Add Remove Programs/Add Windows Components.)
Alternatively, you can download something like XAMPP and install PHP, Apache and MySQL on your machine.
Edit: BuffaloHelp beat me to it.

Onclick is a javascript function, not PHP. You can't use PHP to do anything that isn't submitted to the server first.