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I created a tutorial the other day on how to create a private WoW server for educational purposes and so far the link still says the same thing as when I made it which leads me to believe that the mods have not looked at it yet. I was wondering how long it took them normally to look through tutorials and accept them or deny them.Also if it is denied I was wondering if there is any notice, like do they pm you or email you saying it was denied or are you just left hanging wondering if it was denied or what you did wrong with the tutorial or how to fix it to make it so it is accepted or if you should even bother.Any help or ideas would be awesome.

My Favorite is Blanka, he is green, he has a kewl fighting style and he can electrocute you, how much better can you get?M. Bison is good too.Oh yeah and as far as the Ken VS Ryu thing, I think i prefer Ryu, I don't know why I just do.And I prefer to play the game(s) on my homemade Arcade Machine. (Yes I am lucky enough to have one (That I made, not an old bought one which makes it even cooler) despite my girl friend's complaints that it takes up too much room)(oh yeah, my machine has real arcade controls which make fighting games sooo much better and also I can hook my console games up to it (but sadly ATM can not make the controls work with them, It runs on an old PIII computer and can play all sorts of games using the arcade controls, even non arcade games)

I read an article in video game mag about this game (I forget what mag, it was at Wal-mart while I was waiting for my girlfriend to get off work)This will actually have the original people who worked on the movies involved (Including voice actors) and it is supposed to be like a 3rd movie.Many people have asked about making a 3rd movie for a while but I believe it was Bill Murray did not want to ruin the franchise with a 3rd movie. HOWEVER all of the people involved believed that now that graphics and video game technology has come this far that a proper video game can be made.The script for the game is written by Dan Aykroyd and Harold Ramis who wrote the scripts for the movies.All in all this is going to be insanely awesome (especially for a guy like me who grew up on 80s stuff)The screens and trailers out leave you drooling (or me at least, *grabs a mop*) They are some of the sweetest effects I have seen. Plus it will be fun to use the Ghost buster equipment like it was supposed to be used.The idea behind the game is that it is 1991 (2 years after the last movie) and the Ghostbusters now have a nationwide franchise going on and are as usual knee deep in paranormal freeks to capture and contain. They now need more help and you are just the man for the job.You get to interact with the characters from the movie and watch them interact with each other (which the actors believed was one of the strong points of the Ghostbusters and the reason you are playing some new guy rather then one of the original Ghostbusters)All in all I really can not wait to get my hands on this game.

I actually did buy virtual money for a social type site called IMVU and honestly it was worth it, it wasn't much Real Life cash and I had (and still have) the opportunity to make the money back with extra because I create 3D graphics which I sell on there. If it is worth it all depends on where you do it and what you do with it and how willing you are to stick to it. Think of it as an investment like any other, what will you get from it?If your the kind of person who flits around a lot then i suggest you make sure you are going to stay with it b4 u plop cash down for it.But it all depends on you.Oh also make sure that if its an actual game like World of Warcraft or something that you are not breaking their rules, most games do not allow trading actual money for in game stuff.

==================== | Disclaimer Please read | ==================== This is an educational project ONLY! It is NOT MENT TO BE RAN AS A PUBLIC SERVER! If you do run a public server it MAY be against Blizzard's (World of Warcraft's parent company) EULA and you will void any agreements including the right to play on their servers. They will DELETE YOUR ACCOUNT and possibly ban you from their servers all together. I am writing this to help you learn what goes into making a big time MMORPG and possibly get people into learning about video game production, C++, php, mysql and other programs and programming/scripting languages involved in large MMORPGs and their development. I will reply to this thread with help if you need it but if I believe you are using this to run a public server I will ignore your posts. Also another thing to think about, using and creating this server is 100% legal and DOES NOT infringe upon copyrights because it falls under fair use for educational purposes, HOWEVER If you use any of blizzard's images, files, even the names of their characters for anything besides learning you are BREAKING THE LAW. (This means if you make any money off of this server you can be sued by Blizzard, this would possibly include advertising on pages associated with your server and "donations".) ================== | What you need First | ================== First thing you will need is Some Version of MS Visual C++ This can be one of the following: Visual Studio 6 Visual Studio 2005 + SP1 Visual C++ 2005 Express Edition Visual Studio 2008 Visual C++ 2008 Express Edition Most likely you will need the patch for SP-1 mangosdVC71.sln - Visual Studio 6 mangosdVC80.sln - Visual Studio 2005 or VC++ 2005 Express mangosdVC90.sln - Visual Studio 2008 or VC++ 2008 Express Now in Visual Studio select the build menu and choose the Configuration Manager In the configuration manager change the "Active Solution Configuration" to Release and leave the "Active Solution Platform" at Win32 and close. Now go back to the Build menu and choose Build Solution. It should begin to compile and will take quite some time (especially on slower computers) If you get warning messages in the bottom do not worry, some times there will be warnings, It is ok. When it is done it should say something like: "Build: 9 succeeded, 0 failed, 0 up-to-date, 0 skipped", if it says "Build: 3 succeeded, 0 failed, 6 up-to-date, 0 skipped" That is ok too, as long as it says "0 failed" you are good. Now on to building the Scripts. ==================== | Compiling Script Dev 2 | ==================== This is pretty much like the core, but there are a few changes. instead of using the .sln file in C:\workbench\win you need to look for one in C:\workbench\src\bindings\ScriptDev2 MAKE SURE YOU USE THE EXACT SAME .sln FILE AS YOU USED WITH THE CORE! If you don't this build will fail and it IS annoying. Once again we need to go to the Build menu and to Configuration Manager and change the "Active Solution Configuration" to Release and click close. Now just as before go to the Build menu and choose Build Solution. When this is done you will have both your scripts and core waiting for you in C:\workbench\bin\release ===================================== | Copying your server to its Working Directory| ===================================== Now you need to copy these files to the directory you wish to run your server out of. (This tutorial will assume C:\MANGOS) Also copy the files mangos.conf.in out of C:\workbench\src\mangosd\ and realmd.conf.in out of C:\workbench\src\realmd\ and scriptdev2.conf out of C:\workbench\src\bindings\ScriptDev2\ and put them in C:\MANGOS Now rename the two .conf.in files by removing the .in from each. Check My next Tutorial for how to Set up your MANGOS Server and database. (I will add a link at the bottom when It is finished) ====== | Links | ====== Official Mangos Forum -loads more info and the ability to get involved in creating stuff for this server project. Official ScriptDev2 Forum - Info on the scripts used here and once again the ability to get involved and learn more. =================================== | Things you need to know when installing | =================================== If you chose Visual C++ 2005 Express Edition You need to install and configure Platform SDK. To do this follow This tutorial found here up until it says in step 5 "Save and close the file and open Visual C++ Express." If you are having trouble with step 3 here is a more detailed version: It is recommended that you install SP-1 as well ----------------------------------------- If you have chosen to use Visual Studio 2005 you HAVE TO install SP-1 for VS 2005 (other versions mentioned may have other problems but I am not familiar with them and so I can not offer any help, I only mention them because they will work.) ============================= | The Other Main Tool for Compiling | ============================= Now you need to download TortoiseSVN This is a free ware application for sharing of source code and we will use this quite a bit during this tutorial. Install the program normally and then you need to set up your source files using SVN checkout ===================== | Getting the Source Files | ===================== Make a new folder somewhere (This tutorial assumes you have created this folder in the C:\ drive's root directory and named the folder MANGOS source) (from now on this will be referred to as your " MANGOS source folder") Right click on the MANGOS source folder and choose the "SVN Checkout" option. In the box that pops up you want to click on the area labeled "URL of Repository" and put in the address to the MANGOS source code's SVN which is: https://svn.code.sf.net/p/mangos/code/trunk/ Now press the ok button and allow it to download. When it is done the window will say "Completed at revision: XXXX" It is suggested that you make a note of which revision you have for later when updating and for when you are doing the rest of this tutorial. What you have just downloaded was 1 of 3 parts to your server, this part is known as the "core" You will also want to get a set of scripting source code called Script Dev 2 (SD2), This is what makes the creatures actually do stuff, it is not 100% necessary but without it your creatures will do very little and many other things will not work. To get this go into your MANGOS source folder and navigate to C:\MANGOS SOURCE\src\bindings\ Create a new folder titled ScriptDev2 and as with the core's source we need to right click the folder and choose "SVN Checkout" This time put this url into the area labeled "URL of Repository": https://svn.code.sf.net/p/scriptdev2/code/ Now let that download and you have your scripts. (note the revision on this one too) (the 3rd part, which is the database, I will get to in a little bit) ======================== | Updating your server's core | ======================== This is something will want to do regularly but for now to shorten this tutorial a bit I will add it in a different tutorial later. ========= |Extra stuff| ========= OK here is where you would add any custom patches you have. HOWEVER I will leave that to a separate tutorial seeing as it will make this INSANELY long (not that it inst right now, lol) (hmm I was right, It is long enough that I need to cut it in parts ) ================================== |Compiling Your MANGOS Server with SD2 | ================================== Now to the biggest part of the work. I suggest that you ALWAYS use a whole new set of source code for EACH COMPILE to make sure that you do not accidentally mess it up. SO copy your MANGOS source folder (with the SD2 folder inside it) Label this folder "workbench" Open your workbench folder and navigate to C:\workbench\win\ Double click the .sln file for your version of Visual Studio

And I would like to point out that making the server itself is actually NOT against anything at all, HOWEVER using Blizzard's client to connect to it is against their EULA AND IF you make even 1 cent off the server then you are guilty of copy rite infringement but unless you make money off it it falls under fair use as an educational project. Also there is a project that is going on to create a new client so that the Blizzard client will not be a problem , no EULA issues and stuff. It is in the early stages but it looks promising and is really kewl for learning purposes. (especially seeing as you get in when it is just starting out more or less) I think I will write the tutorial later tonight then and post it and see if the mods reject it. EDIT: I wrote half of the tutorial but the other half will have to wait, lol its LONG!!! (yeah you kinda need to combine 3 separate projects into one to do it and there (to my knowledge) has never been a tutorial on how to do it ALL, just separate tutorials on each thing (2 or more for the main one actually) so I am kinda combining 4 or 5 tuts into one.... EDIT2: Looks like my compiling tut was accepted!!!, here is a link: http://forums.xisto.com/topic/55290-tutorial-on-how-to-compile-your-own-mangos-world-of-warcraft-private-server-a-great-way-to-learn-about-how-big-mmorpgs-work-and-are-built/

The servers acre actually geared twards tryign to recreate WoW as blizzard has it, not as a lot of people do and make it with overpowered gear and insane leveling and other crap that suck the actual fun out of the game.I run a server that I play on which has just about everything the same as blizzard except for some custom areas and new quests and custom mobs.It is roughly the exact same thing with just a few more bugs (because everything has to be rewritten by hand from scratch but a lot of the work has already been done as far as recreating stuff (though the couple of database projects out there are not anywhere near 100% correct (and probably never will be due to new patches and stuff being made by blizz all the time)But the kewlest part about the private server (at least in my opinion) is that you can learn what makes a server for a huge game like World of Warcraft and I am currently learning more about programming in c++ and taught myself php and sql and how to use mysql and apache and other programs used in creating games and serving web pages and working with databases.I have learned that I actually love it and that it is not as boring as a lot of people say it is. (looking at lines of code for hours on end sounds boring as heck but it is actually oddly addicting...)

I am thinking about writing a tutorial on this but I am unsure if it would be used here and even if it would if it would break any rules of Xisto's.I can take people through step by step on how to compile one from MANGOS source code and even how to include custom patches and how to update their server and database.It will be complete with links to relevant material.Would anyone use this here?

I was wondering if you give out these scripts what kind of license it will be under. Also I was wondering if I could use them and change them to my needs to make a different yet related type of game.Pokemon isn't really my style however the idea behind collecting creatures and breeding them and battling them is kinda kewl and I have some interesting spins I would like to put on the whole idea. With you doing this scripting then it would be easier to edit the stuff you are doign rather then make my own stuff from scratch.Would you take offense to this kind of use of yoru scripts? (If i can use them in this way I would obviously credit you in the credits for the game.)

I admit I have not read the whole post here but from what I have read you people are NOT talking about hackers. You are talking about some little kid who sucks at a game and downloads some program from the net to make his character faster, more powerful, have more items or whatever it does, in short creating an unfair advantage. These people are called script kiddies. They are your run of the mill cheaters who read some tutorial on how to use a program that they have no clue about what it actually does, they only know what results it has and probably could not use the program if they were never told how to by a person or a tutorial.Hacking actually takes talent, it takes knowledge of computer systems, programming, and many other things and also hackign is not ALL bad.There are actually hackers out there who work to try to stop "bad" hackers (known as blackhat hackers) they are known as whitehat hackers (there also are people who operate somewhere in between that will do stuff considered bad for good reasons if need be and they are called greyhat hackers)It just annoys me that these little kids who know nothing beyond how to click some buttons and install someone else's script are called hackers when they are truly just cheaters

I just tried this game and honestly It is one of the worst games I have played. The character looks like he has brain damage or something and walks all messed up. The very first thing that happened to me was i stood there and 3 enemies attacked me at once and killed me. The chat was full of people who could only be described as immature who were arguing and saying stuff like "kiss my butt" over and over.When I was able to kill something it dropped a buckler which was added to my inventory and then as I had just lost most of my health when fighting i was hiding behind a tree and putting the buckler on some little flaming guy spawns on top of me and kills me.The Ai is sucky and all the knight lookign mobs did was run in circles. There seemed to be no storyline at all.The camera angle was annoying because it was directly behind your character and could not be moved (that I know of) and your character blocked a good part of the screen and whenever I went over a hill I could not look to see if there as a mob below me that was going to kill me.

Well, you could always go the private server route... And honestly I would not be surprised to learn that their is actually loads of people who play private servers because of this problem. And I believe that Blizzard most likely has purposefully done this to force people to buy the game from a retail outlet which would then trickle money off to Blizzard themselves. HOWEVER there is a bright side, Blizzard offers a free trial period for WoW (and TBC if you already have a WoW account) So check their fee trial and download the client and then play the game that way, when your trial is up just activate your account. Check out this site: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/new-site ALSO It would be worth looking into taking legal action, However I do not believe that there is any laws that protect consumers for online accounts. They legally have to allow the sale of the actual media between private parties but I believe that online gaming and subscriptions are too new to have laws that control abuses like this. But it never hurts to look into it. (please do not take my comments as law or any type of legal advice, contact a lawyer and see if maybe you could get a free consultation)

Ok First off I run a private server so I can answer this EASILY. Personally I upkeep my server and run it because I love to program and I just love the challenge of doing it. Also I love to be able to play on it without greedy companies making loads more money then they honestly should. (Blizzard could make crap loads of money if they had the monthly price at even just 5 bux with over 9million ppl playing) Also reisons for using private server include: 1. Smaller nicer and close knit comunity. 2. The ability to actually have a say in what happens. (I know I personally am open to any suggestion by the people who play on my server and have implemented many things because of them) 3. Custom stuff like events, games, areas, items, mobs, whole cities even. 4. You might actually get to know the GMs and other staff. (personally I play when I am not improving the server) 5. Less people playing means more help on an individual basis. 6. If something gets messed up it can be fixed usually within minutes to a couple days. (no need for a new client patch to fix a messed up spell or something) You chose probably the biggest and most idiotic of servers to play on. Not every server has stuff like overpowered items and donors, insane exp, bugs in everything, Idiotic GMs, stupid people, the ability to buy tier items. That kind of server is referred to as a "funserver" but honestly its not fun at all. It gets boring after a couple of days and there is no replay value. My server is Blizz-like and has the same exp and drops and everything as Blizzard's. And also I am a GM there and can get the best stuff and I have tried to do that solo the BT thing, it doesn't work because I actually have the scripts correct. Ilidan actually uses spells too. Oh and one thing that I agree with you on, GMs on some servers are total idiots but if the owner of the server had half a brain and controlled their GMs then it would be better. I have personally banned some GMs because they had a god complex. GMs are there to serve the players, they are there to be helpful when someone needs help and not act like they are something special or insanely great. And as far as quest bugs, Yes they exist but realize that bugs exist on the offical servers too. And each and every quest has to be hand programmed from pretty much scratch so there will be issues BUT if your server admin is worth anything he will get them ironed out ASAP. (I don't know how many times I have been up till 3am working on some annoying bugged quest.)

Well Personally I like the horde. I like them because they have the blood elves. (which honestly is the most played race)Blood Elves are great for me due to their innate ability for magic and the fact that I like to play squishy classes (mage and lock are my top favorites)Also Honestly I'm just one of those people who like to be on the bad guys side. My favorite type of character is the anti-hero type so Horde fits me perfectly.HOWEVER I do love the gnomes too and when I play on the alliance side (on different servers) I am usually a gnome, they are just plain kewl. Ya gotta love insane little creatures that invent weird crap all the time. And their mecha-striders are kinda sweet looking too. (Course to me they look like they are always a second or so from exploding and sending the little gnome on them rocketing to he sky) (oh yeah, my GF plays a gnome lock too so i kinda have no choice but to like um..)OH, I also would liek to point out that my very first PVP as a Hordie was NOT a BG, It was actually in STV outside Grom'gol on my way to try to raid SW with my guild. We got intercepted and the allies lost bad and we chased them up half way to SW b4 their friends showed up and out numbered us 2-1.