Yeah i've got an i-river, but i'm thinking of getting a good Hard Disk Player, either the I-pod or an i-river or a creative Zen touch. I've been looking at which one to choose and at the moment i'm thinking of getting a i-river becuase at the moment i have 256mb i-river mp3 player and it's lasted for a good 1 and a half years. But if someone knows otherwise about i-river or another good brand i'd love to hear about it.