Left And Top Scrollbar?

Amezis · August 1, 2005

I know it sounds weird but I actually want scrollbars all around the screen. Left, right, top, bottom. Is that possible to do?

whafizi · August 1, 2005

You want it for the whole screen? I think that depends on your graphic card. I was using NVDIA once and it happened to me. The screen scrolls, but there's no scrolling bar. The scrolling will be decided with your mouse movement. It was unintentionally, and i dont know how it was done.

Amezis · August 1, 2005

No no just around the page

Amezis · August 1, 2005

By the way I'm using an iframe, it's only the iframe I want to scroll. Maybe I could add something in the iframe code?Or in the page that's in the iframe... It doesn't matter, just I can get scrollers around the frame.

cragllo · August 1, 2005

It is not possible, unles you were to make your own browser with scrollbars on all 4 sides, but it wont be too popular, it will just make web pages that are made to fir perfectly in a browser window, not fir anymore, a scrollbar is about 22px wide in Internet Explorer and 19 in FireFox, ples a left scrollbar will do the eeact same as a right had scollbar, so there is no point, thats why no browsers have 4 scollbars, plus in FireFox the scrollbars dont show if they are not needed, in Internet Explorer the left scrollbar just becomes unusable.phew.

truefusion · August 1, 2005

I dont know about the scrollbar being at the top, but having it on the left side is possible. You would use the attribute "direction".

<body dir="rtl">

This attribute will flip everything from the right to the left.

Another way:

<style>.dir{direction: rtl}</style>

cragllo · August 1, 2005

That flps the whole page, and the scollbar only moves in Internet Explorer, It does not in Opera, FireFox, Mozilla or K-meleon, you know, the better ones.

bjrn · August 1, 2005

That flps the whole page, and the scollbar only moves in Internet Explorer, It does not in Opera, FireFox, Mozilla or K-meleon, you know, the better ones.

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A bit of a shame though. You'd expect that if your text was going from right to left, that the scrollbar would be at the "end" of a line all the same. So I definitely think IE's method is more intuitive.

Anyway, back to the real question. I have no doubt you could make a JavaScript scrollbar that sticks to the top and left for your pages. And if not JS, then always flash. However, you should ask yourself whether you really want to do that. In my experience there are little, if any, pages that manage to pull off non-standard scrollbars in a good way, without annoying all users.

Amezis · August 2, 2005

Well, do not tell me that I don't need it since I already said it could sound weird, but it should be possible.Thanks to the scrollbar on the left side, but I need one at the top too.I am using it because I am running a fansite to a MMORPG. Normally, there is a Java map, but since it doesn't work on all computers (slow, no java and so on), I've made an image version too, that's in a frame (easier to scroll, fit the design). However, scrollbars all around would do it easier for users that don't have any scrolling button on the middle of their mouse.But it would look too weird with a left scrollbar without a top one, so I am still waiting. It should be possible with Javascript, but I'm not into it at all...Ahh wheres this reputation point I would give many of them to the user who gives me the top bar...

whyme · August 15, 2005

it is only possible to make three scrollbars, left;right;bottom; creating a top scrollbar is impossible. further more, a leftside scrollbar just isn't reliable, (IE only)if you really needed this, I suggest you create an application in flash that would do that.whyme

Amezis · August 15, 2005

Well, I am not really into flash... But thanks for the info anyway.

galexcd · October 9, 2005

For making them all the way around, i sugest making a flash file, with dynamic scroll bars, and as for

<body dir="rtl">

... well just cheak out this site:

http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/

Tyssen · October 9, 2005

I am using it because I am running a fansite to a MMORPG. Normally, there is a Java map, but since it doesn't work on all computers (slow, no java and so on), I've made an image version too, that's in a frame (easier to scroll, fit the design). However, scrollbars all around would do it easier for users that don't have any scrolling button on the middle of their mouse.

As the top & left scrollbars are only going to be moving in the same direction as the right & bottom (ie horizontal & vertical), there's no point in having them. You've got all the possible movement you want (except diagonal which isn't going to happen with scrollbars) with the normal two scrollbars.

saga · October 9, 2005

if you could create one... can you let us see the page..its hard to create top scroll bar in a window base application how much more in making it appear in the top portion of the browser which inherets its property to the core windows class, which means no top scroll bar...if you make it in flash then it defeats your bandwith.. i mean it must be a large size flash file to have that feature... unless of course if you have unlimited bandwith.. but then users will complain becuase of the time wasted on loading the flash effects... anyway... gud luck