Apple Wins $1Billion - Big Blow For Samsung And Android

[manuleka 0]

The problem is that you cannot patent something which already exists. I cannot patent a black vert vertical box for a computer, because this already exists, and has probably been patented tens of years ago!

I wonder how many patents does Apple hold... billions?

[Ananya 0]

Apple should have win as if someone's ideas are just spectacular or whatever if it appeals to huge mass then anyone taking that idea as to be their own if implements in his /her business must contribute something to the actual generator of those ideas. So Apple truly deserved the $1billion won in the trial against Samsung but the real question is if it that win in the corridors of justice will also translate in winning in the long run in business terms too.As a different view does coexist which puts Samsung in a little beneficial position wherein it gets an ad depicting Samsung mobiles as nothing different than Apple and hence anyone can enjoy the same features of Appleat a much affordable price by buying Samsung mobiles.

[manuleka 0]

Apple should have win as if someone's ideas are just spectacular or whatever if it appeals to huge mass then anyone taking that idea as to be their own if implements in his /her business must contribute something to the actual generator of those ideas. So Apple truly deserved the $1billion won in the trial against Samsung but the real question is if it that win in the corridors of justice will also translate in winning in the long run in business terms too.As a different view does coexist which puts Samsung in a little beneficial position wherein it gets an ad depicting Samsung mobiles as nothing different than Apple and hence anyone can enjoy the same features of Appleat a much affordable price by buying Samsung mobiles.

Apple had to sue Samsung and bid for a large penalty, because Samsung is becoming a real competition... I think Samsung knew this was coming that's probably why their Galaxy S III isn't in violation of the Apple patents

If Samsung will halve it's Galaxy S III prices in US... that will really disturb the Apple US Market

[vhortex 1]

Apple had to sue Samsung and bid for a large penalty, because Samsung is becoming a real competition... I think Samsung knew this was coming that's probably why their Galaxy S III isn't in violation of the Apple patents
If Samsung will halve it's Galaxy S III prices in US... that will really disturb the Apple US Market

Funny thing is that Samsung have the first patent of rounded corners but it is not worldwide patent, people are talking around the net on how stupid the ruling was when the original rounded corners and one button in iPhone was inspired by a Samsung phone.

Companies using the original creators idea or work and then suing them for patents are not very rare, there are even tons of cases with Microsoft "borrowing" codes from other people on promise that they will use it for free products bundled with Windows and then after 1 year or 2, they will apply secretly a patent for that "borrowed" technology then later on sue the creator. There was a circulating news before on my "not so mainstream and legal" mailing list about how people gain access to windows 95, 98, win me and vista root kernels without changing any part of it by accessing the accessory programs. One them even produces watermarked contents when used put by the original programmer.

Apple also sue Samsung in relation to Icons on the android phones resembling iPhone icons, as far as I know is that all Icons on a stock Samsung phone is part or a mask of the default sets of icons that android have. Here are a link of the few subset of the icons http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/. Apple also sue Samsung for copying iPhone like gestures on the android phones which they failed that they are copying the android OS itself with the swipe and other gestures. Should they sue all smartphones and Google for this too? I failed to track the development regarding this OS feature issues in the battle but I am sure that if Google will be sued, they will counter sue Apple causing major set backs in the iPhone OS functionality.

It is also silly to sue a company running an OS that is free for use and have a free market for new software from a totally 3rd party source be sued for making iPhone like icons.

As far as I see it, without Steve Jobs, the man who revive Apple from the grave of a great downfall, there will be no new innovations on their line. The consequence is a decline on iPhone sales and even Apple products.


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One of the basis of the Legal battle is that base on them, a Samsung android phone looks like an iPhone from a far. Funny, I never own an iPhone and have no plan on getting one but I own a Samsung phone. From a distance of 8 meters, I can easily spot which one is a Samsung and which one is an Apple. Samsung have 2 soft buttons, when the user is using the phone, they will lit up causing a huge difference. The button is also rectangular and the cameras are different. With an eye blind folded, I can tell which one is a Samsung and which one is an iPhone, Samsung bodies are made from light weight plastics.

Just an added trivia, the smiley characters are also patented and copyrighted. Apple is also using them and they are built inside their OS. Are they paying the patent owner for using them?

[manuleka 0]

Funny thing is that Samsung have the first patent of rounded corners but it is not worldwide patent, people are talking around the net on how stupid the ruling was when the original rounded corners and one button in iPhone was inspired by a Samsung phone.
Companies using the original creators idea or work and then suing them for patents are not very rare, there are even tons of cases with Microsoft "borrowing" codes from other people on promise that they will use it for free products bundled with Windows and then after 1 year or 2, they will apply secretly a patent for that "borrowed" technology then later on sue the creator. There was a circulating news before on my "not so mainstream and legal" mailing list about how people gain access to windows 95, 98, win me and vista root kernels without changing any part of it by accessing the accessory programs. One them even produces watermarked contents when used put by the original programmer.

Apple also sue Samsung in relation to Icons on the android phones resembling iPhone icons, as far as I know is that all Icons on a stock Samsung phone is part or a mask of the default sets of icons that android have. Here are a link of the few subset of the icons http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/. Apple also sue Samsung for copying iPhone like gestures on the android phones which they failed that they are copying the android OS itself with the swipe and other gestures. Should they sue all smartphones and Google for this too? I failed to track the development regarding this OS feature issues in the battle but I am sure that if Google will be sued, they will counter sue Apple causing major set backs in the iPhone OS functionality.

It is also silly to sue a company running an OS that is free for use and have a free market for new software from a totally 3rd party source be sued for making iPhone like icons.

As far as I see it, without Steve Jobs, the man who revive Apple from the grave of a great downfall, there will be no new innovations on their line. The consequence is a decline on iPhone sales and even Apple products.


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One of the basis of the Legal battle is that base on them, a Samsung android phone looks like an iPhone from a far. Funny, I never own an iPhone and have no plan on getting one but I own a Samsung phone. From a distance of 8 meters, I can easily spot which one is a Samsung and which one is an Apple. Samsung have 2 soft buttons, when the user is using the phone, they will lit up causing a huge difference. The button is also rectangular and the cameras are different. With an eye blind folded, I can tell which one is a Samsung and which one is an iPhone, Samsung bodies are made from light weight plastics.

Just an added trivia, the smiley characters are also patented and copyrighted. Apple is also using them and they are built inside their OS. Are they paying the patent owner for using them?

good points... without reading or doing further research into details of the infringements it is quite sad to see the kind of patented features involved in this case... I wonder if Apple would've patent the home button on a phone, i won't be surprised if they did try patenting it... and that's one of points Samsung was arguing over, some of these features are ridiculously obvious and patenting them would be very unreasonable...

if we look at automobiles, imagine if someone would've patent 3 wheeled motorcycle/car... this is a feature that anyone can easily come-up with, if apple was an automobile company they would've patent this 3 wheel feature
And would probably sue any company from making even toys for kids with 3 wheels on them lol
Edited September 3, 2012 by manuleka (see edit history)