Herbert1405241469 0 Report post Posted May 12, 2007 Well, being as how I'm adventurous and like to pursue alternatives to those stupid pills doctors like to chuck at me when I'm not feeling good, I've found a little thing online called The Master Cleanse, also known as The Lemonade Diet, which really isn't a diet at all, but rather it's a sort of detoxification of the body.I've done a ton of research on the whole thing, reading people's blogs that were doing it, and Youtube videos of people that are in the process of doing it to see how things went, and if it was really worth it and whatnot... So after about 3 days of just looking up stuff, and research, I decided to go for it. I'm going to go about this in a very scientific manner, so that my experiences can be used by the internet population to either try it if it works, or avoid it if I die Some background info on the diet itself:The goal is not weight loss, though that's a side effect and can be beneficial.Here's the daily regimen:-Night before you start, you drink an herbal laxative tea. Go to sleep.-Wake up the next morning and drink a quart of water mixed with 2 teaspoons of sea salt, and get ready for an hour in the bathroom, because you'll be busy for the next hour or so -After you're done there, which is the Purging stage of the cleanse, you go about your day drinking only this specially prepared lemonade drink, which I'll describe below.-That night, repeat the herbal tea, and repeat this for 10 days.Well, the first response I got from my friends and family about this was "OH GOD THAT SOUNDS UNHEALTHY" Well, healthy or not, there are tons of people that have done it, and haven't died, so I figure, if nothing else, I will lose a few pounds, and release crap in my colon that is killing me anyway.The lemon drink mix goes as such, you'll have to look up the PDF of the guy's book, or buy the book itself, which is $6.50 or so, but I'll get into that later as I go into the video journals...The drink you drink all day is this:-2 Tablespoons lemon or limejuice (approx. ½ lemon)-2 Tablespoons genuine maple syrup (Not maple flavored sugar syrup) (VERY IMPORTANT TO FIND GRADE B, GRADE A IS CRAP FOR PANCAKES!!!)-1/10 Teaspoon cayenne pepper (red pepper) or to taste (Good for metabolism)-8 oz water, room temperatureCombine the juice, maple syrup, and cayenne pepper in a 10 oz glass jar w/lid and fill with the water.Shake it up and drink. (Cold water may be used if preferred.)Use fresh (organic) lemons or limes only, never canned lemon or limejuice nor frozen lemonade orfrozen juice.(Source: http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/)Sounds sick, but people think it's pretty good.Anyway, once I start this, I'll keep vitals up such as weight and overall feelings and whatnot.When I get videos going, I'll post the link here too. I just had a huge dinner tonight because we had guests over so I'll most likely drink the first lax tea Sunday night, and begin in earnest on Monday for my first day.Now, there's a guy on youtube if you look it up that documents doing this cleanse for 40 days! And he is still alive, so I'm hoping i can cope with 10 easy.Some goals of mine that I'm doing this:-Regulate my thyroid since it's under producing, and I don't want to take Synthroid the rest of my life.-Fix my yucky morning breath by cleansing my system of crap I've been harboring all these years from Burger King and McDonalds-Purge myself of any parasites, which as been known to happen on day 4 or 6.And my final goal is to have this fast/cleanse act as a gateway to eating more fruits and less junk foods.I'll keep you all posted. If anyone has any experience with this at all, I'd appreciate any tips or suggestions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbert1405241469 0 Report post Posted May 12, 2007 I'm going to make videos detailing how much stuff costs and what brands I use. I'm going to be as scientific about this as possible, because people just sort of do it, and talk about how they feel, but newbies to the whole thing have no idea what's involved unless they really research what's going on...Just reading the pdf, you don't know that you'll be pretty much peeing out your *bottom* when you use that salt water flush hahaha. Or more scientific things like body temperature, and whatnot are not recorded.Just some notes I've picked up on the internet, which I anticipate and will confirm if they happen:-You'll get really cold since the heat from digestion isn't going to be there.-You're going to need the bathroom anywhere from 5-10 minutes from using the salt water flush, and it typically lasts an hour or two. So it's best to wake up extra early to allow this not to interfere with your day.-You need to use the lax tea the night before, or the salt water flush isn't as effective, and may give you a headache if it isn't..... "released" shortly after you drink it.-Day 3 is typically the day you start to not feel hunger or desire for food, but you hate the lemonade.-Day 5 or so you start to like the lemonade again.-Day 6 or so you lose parasites you didn't know you had (if you have any).-When coming off the diet in Day 10, you can't eat right away. You start weaning off by drinking watered down Orange Juice, then the next day maybe some fruit, and finally you can almost eat by day 3 or so.Some claims also include people's eyesight getting better, which would be another benefit for me, since I'm nearsighted and I feel like it's getting worse.Sense of smell is increased.You're going to get a nasty coat on your tongue by day 3 or so, and it won't go away till after the fast (so it seems, the one guy did it for 40 days and had the coat for most of the time.)This coat on your tongue, the fanatic Master Cleanser people say is toxins leaving your body, and that when your tongue clears, then you should quit the diet, but in fact, my hypothesis is that this is most likely thrush, and therefore not anything but bad bacteria, so I've read that you need/should take probiotics after the fast to gain those healthy bacteria back to fight off bad bacteria that causes thrush and canididia or whatever else you need to digest food. I'll most likely combat this with hydrogen peroxide, but I need to do more research.That's all I can think of for now. I'll post a pre-fast video hopefully tomorrow, once I calibrate my video equipment. I have to go buy measuring glasses and whatnot so I have a set all to myself. More later as I think of it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbert1405241469 0 Report post Posted May 14, 2007 I don't even know if anyone is reading this, but it's on record anyway for future finders of this Day Zero Stats*: May 13, 2007 - 1:20pm Systolic Pressure: 117 Diastolic Pressure: 68 Pulse Rate: 69 Weight: 170 * Averaged from 3 separate checks within a 5 minute period at rest. ----------------------------------------------------------------- YouTube Video Link - Day Zero http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- Well, here begins my first real blog (with accompanying video blog on YouTube), in my experimentation with the Master Cleanse I've been researching. Hopefully this will be scientific and thorough enough so that people will be able to use my experience in knowing whether or not the darn thing is worth it. I feel like a newbie compared to all the people that have done this already, but I just thought I'd put in my 2 cents. For more info on what this cleanse involves, check out: http://therawfoodsite.com/mastercleanse.htm (The PDF of the book they have is available if you look for it on Yahoo or Google) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Current medical conditions of my own: -Low thyroid levels at times, but not taking medication other than herbal supplements. -ITP, but platelet levels last checked at 156,000, which is normal. It's been stable for over approx. 4 years. Last Meal: A hot dog and hash brown, with red Vault. Vitamins included a multi-vitamin, Ester-C, B6, Iodomere, Thytrophin PMG ----------------------------------------------------------------- First of all, I'll list the materials and costs. I'm in Erie, Pennsylvania, so the costs and brands may vary. I'll be posting feedback on all the products as I experience them. (Prices don't include tax.) Nightly Tea - Smooth Move herbal Stimulant Laxative - $4.75 for 16 bags (Night Zero, drinking it starting at 10:04pm) (First Impressions: Ugh, too hot. Tastes bitter, not enjoyable. I'm not a tea person) Morning Salt Water Flush - Dietary Foods Sea Salt - $1.80 for 3 pounds. Water - Distilled Wal-Mart brand - $0.69 Koldrock Brand Distilled water - $1.20 (Currently using Koldrock for the tea.) Cayenne Pepper - Rated 35,000 Units (Woman that sold it to me said it was mild) - $0.56 for 1 oz. Lemons - Wegmans Brand - $3.98 for 6 (Look ugly, washed them thoroughly with soap to get rid of crap they put on em) Maple Syrup - NOW brand, Grade B, Certified Organic, Kosher - $7.99 for 16 fl. ounces ----------------------------------------------------------------- Current formulas for mixing concentrate and dilution: Concentrated Lemonade Mix - (6.25 Servings) 6.25 oz lemon juice (12.5 tablespoons) 6.25 oz maple syrup (12.5 tablespoons) 0.31 oz cayenne pepper (0.625 tablespoons) Concentrate Mix with Water - (3 Servings) 24 oz. distilled water 6.3 oz Lemonade Mix Salt Water Flush - (1 Quart every morning) 1 quart distilled water 2 teaspoons sea salt Lax Tea - (1 Cup every night) 8 oz distilled water 1 tea bag (Poured boiling water into cup on teabag, covered with a lid, and let set for approx 10-20 minutes) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Disclaimer: Of course, I'm not a medical man, so I don't condone or endorse any of this stuff. I'm simply a guinea pig relaying my experiences to you on this fast. Do what you want, I'm not responsible for your health or anyone's health but my own Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbert1405241469 0 Report post Posted May 15, 2007 Day One Stats*: May 14, 2007 - 2:20pm Systolic Pressure: 110 Diastolic Pressure: 63 Pulse Rate: 62 Weight: 170 * Averaged from 3 separate checks within a 5 minute period at rest. ----------------------------------------------------------------- YouTube Video Link - Day Zero http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- Well, day one sucked. To be honest. The whole day I just wanted to chew on something. The lemonade mix turned out horrible because I think I put in too much pepper. Tomorrow I'm going to make it glass by glass instead of a concentrate, because it didn't work right. Woke up around 9am, mixed the Quart of salt water with 2 teaspoons of sea salt and got it down. It sucked, because I wanted to throw it up, but I kept it down. Took about 20 minutes or so to kick in, and it kicked in hard. It didn't hurt, thankfully, but there's little warning before you feel it ready to blow out your pants. Started as solid, but progressed to liquid, and finally I was just shooting clear water. Weird feeling. The "butt pee" was done by Noon or so, which was longer than I'd like. I think I'll lower the dose of salt water just so it doesn't last so long. As I said above, the lemonade didn't turn out, so I didn't get in my 6 servings, but I took in the maple syrup separate to keep up my calories. Didn't lose any weight, but I'm sure that's because I've been drinking so much water. Parents think this is crazy, and I'm starting to believe them... Day One, and I'm already doubting myself. I just have to keep my hopes up that I can get through this without screwing up and dying haha. My blood pressure went down, which might explain the low moods today. I ought to start taking my temperature too, but I'm not in the mood now. The laxative tea smells, and my excretions smell like it, so it makes me gag now to make the tea since it reminds me of time in the bathroom. I can see why people quit, but I want to lose this couple of pounds and get into fruits and stuff. We'll see what tomorrow brings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeigh1405241495 0 Report post Posted May 15, 2007 Just to let you know I find this insanely fascinating. I always hear about these intense sounding cleansing "diets" and it's cool to see someone scientifically breaking one down. I know a friend of mine has done it before but she didn't go with one that was quite this demanding nor did she track her progress very much. She just had the, normal as you mentioned, things like "oh I feel great now" but to me that might just be because after it you get to eat food again and I know after a week or so of lemonade food would be divine regardless B)So yea keep up the good work! I can't watch your videos currently as I'm at work so technically should "work" eventually and not watch youtube haha, but if I remember I'll check em out at home. Either way, cool stuff. Try not to die Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbert1405241469 0 Report post Posted May 16, 2007 Thanks for the encouragement Day Two Stats*: May 15, 2007 - 3:42pm Systolic Pressure: 110 Diastolic Pressure: 64 Pulse Rate: 68 Weight: 166 It's actually the morning of Day Three at the moment. Yesterday I was thinking of quitting today, and I still am, but this morning when I woke up to go to the bathroom, I still had brown stuff coming out, which means I'm not yet totally clean. I took the salt water flush this morning to get rid of gunk still in there. It's weird, yesterday I was about ready to quit, but this morning, I had some knawing feeling that I need to stay on it... I'm just going to take it day by day. I'm tired, weak, and bored. That's the biggest thing, keeping yourself busy so you can conserve what little energy you have, and keeping yourself away from food. I'll keep you posted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbert1405241469 0 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 Day Three Stats: May 16, 2007 - 6:20pm Systolic Pressure: 118 Diastolic Pressure: 69 Pulse Rate: 56 Weight: 166 http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/ Well, I'm done. I can't take it anymore, and I'm exhibiting signs of starvation. I hate the lemon drink, so I just drank water all day. The lack of sugar dropped my levels, and I'm dizzy. I'm sorry I can't finish the whole 10 days, but since I can't stand the lemon mix, I can't drink that much every day (that I need to live on this diet). I'm going to try weaning off it with apple juice and yogurt, and I'll pick up some probiotics tomorrow so I can get good bacteria back into my stomach. Sorry to everyone. I guess I'm not cut out for hard core fasting. Overall, this diet/detox would be worth it, but I feel like the time I wasted in my house watching movies and playing video games is time that I could have spent more productively. You can't go out very much if you're on this diet, because you run the risk of an accident in your pants if you're not by a bathroom.... That and you're totally loopy feeling if you don't take the required dosages of lemons and maple syrup. I have low enough blood pressure as it is, this diet isn't helping me any. My suggestions for anyone wanting to do this... Try the mix before you buy the whole 10 day's worth. If you can't stomach the crappy taste of the mix on the first day, there's no sense in spending all that money because you'll want to quit. I was gagging on the stuff, so rather than quitting, I just drank water. Well now I'm dizzy and weak and totally unhealthy. Don't let this happen to you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeigh1405241495 0 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 Wow that's pretty intense. Although it makes sense that if you're getting so little nutritional input and then you stop getting one of them that it would have drastic effects. Even with quitting you probably did get some good outcomes since you lasted for a few days. Good effort and congrats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbert1405241469 0 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 Well, first day off the fast. Started off with a glass of apple juice. I've been munching pretzel sticks, but trying to to eat too many due to the sodium. Had a thing of yogurt. So far, no stomach cramps or anything.Any longer than 3 days, you have to go easy, but I was just at that peak where I could ease back into normal food rather easily.Yeah, Good things: I lost weight. And I cleaned out a lot of gunk out of my intestines. Didn't pass anything weird or unexpected, which probably would have happened around day 5 or 6, but I feel much better now just with what little I had to eat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iGuest 3 Report post Posted November 30, 2007 Really been wanting to try this since I heard about it. I feel I have candida, and need to clean out my system. I tried this fast about 15 years ago, and smoked a joint on day five, which left me completely paranoid and afraid of doctors, medicine, even vitamins at times. I feel I need to do this cleanse again to get rid of the fear, but reading your experience doesn't excite me ( I felt great doing the first time, till someone offered me a joint and I was dumb enough to try it :>)Curious to find out if you ever plan to try it again?-cherie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iGuest 3 Report post Posted January 31, 2009 The Lemonade DietThe Master CleanseThe Lemonade Diet Cleansing Directions http://themastercleanse.org/the-lemonade-diet/ -reply by James Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iGuest 3 Report post Posted September 7, 2010 I canThe Master CleanseI was looking into some information on cleansing the blood when I came across this info. It actually saddens me to see people going to this extreme to cleanse their bodies of impurities. I have used the Isagenix Cleansing and Fat Burning for 5 years now. Yes it's more expensive than the Master Cleanse but I redirected some of my food budget. There is nothing like the products Isagenix offers for cleansing your body. It is not a diet but a whole body cleanse. It really works. It is gentle on your system because of the use of the inner heart of the Aloe Vera plant in the cleanse drink. And the results are completely opposite of what I have read here. Go to Isaproduct.Com and listen or read that info. Visit Isamovie.Com - what have you got to lose by looking into other ways of cleansing. I know the Isagenix products are safer and more beneficial. The flavor has been improved for those who found it not so palatable. It is so much more pleasing to the taste, but it still cleanses impurities etc from your system leaving you with more energy, healthier, better mental clarity I could go on -and I don't usually send out comments like this, but I couldn't help the desire to let you know there is something out there that is better and safer and adjusts to any lifestyle - that includes no extra time in the bathroom, no starvation etc.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iGuest 3 Report post Posted January 1, 2011 My comments on the Master CleanseThe Master CleanseMy first day was hard, but I got through it. I had a headache that night. I drank the herbal tea once in the morning and once at night. Of cause when I started my cleanse we had big snow storm I had to shovel snow the first day but I rested after going out a few times. I also am a body builder, so I worked out also. My strength was not diminished. I was still lifting the same amount. Day 2 I worked out and shoveled snow. I felt alright.After drinking the Smooth Move tea nothing solid is coming out. I got through that day. My wife has been making great meals for the rest of the family. I feel like I want to shoot myself, but thats alright. I will make it. Now I'm on day 3 I feel great I must admit. I'm still working out and shoveling snow. Its 10 pm now I'm going to bed after I have the tea. I'm going to do 7 more days. Thats 10 days -feedback by Philip and Barbera Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xarex 1 Report post Posted April 5, 2011 I did a cleanse diet once. I think I got it from musclesurf.com called something like Sun Cleanse.. or Detox.. anyways, I think these are good to do at least once a year, but definitely can be hard. The diet basically requires you to only eat salad for 2 weeks in order to cleanse fully. By the end of 2 weeks, I was 14 pounds less and pooping nothing. I felt so pure and good. It was awesome.Did that a few years ago. Attempted to do it again but there is so much freakin' food in this world! It's hard to do and it takes so much commitment and strictness to train yourself to actually follow through with it. But in the end, if one does follow through with it with a daily work out routine.. it's freakin' amazing. The first cleanse I had ever done had began a routine of healthy lifestyle living for me.. ended up after 6 months losing something like 20 pounds, totaling about 30 pounds. Not bad going from around 245 down to 215. Definitely hope to do it again.I had a friend who was doing the whole lemonade thing. She loved it. I don't know how she did it.A cleanse is great, but a true diet comes from changing your lifestyle eating habits. You should generally eat more meals, but less calories. So not going for seconds would be helpful and just having smaller plates. I had to get out of the mentality of "having to finish everything on the plate" in order to realize that I could just wrap it up and save it for later.And since then, I've actually been eating much less and haven't had too many problems. The less you eat, and the more you train your hunger and your mind, the less hungry you actually are, and you soon realize that you only need to eat a little bit of food every few hours just to keep your body's metabolism going and be satisfied enough with that. While food can be very enjoyable and it is a necessity, there is a certain point where you are just eating in order to sustain your body with nutrition and energy. But it is kind of hard to just give up all of life's pleasure in food.. I'd say that the majority of our pleasure zone derives from tasting food. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iGuest 3 Report post Posted August 23, 2011 Day four for me and still going strongThe Master CleanseReplying to FeedBackerHey...Good effort and I am surprised at myself. At first I thought I'll just try it for one day...And then three...And now I am on my way to ten and yes, I developed thrush today. I did not know it was a quart of water with the salt since I have been taking that salt in a cup of water...Hmmmmm. It still worked but it will work better with two.My experiences are similar to yours except I was expelling clear earlier and yeah...Pee out the butt...LOL. I am doing it for detox and I hope my eyesight gets better, and my vericose veins. I love the lemonade...I wonder why you didn't.I have been taking my vitamins daily still though since I thought that would be okay and it seems to be so.I drink 6 to 8 cups of the lemonade and I live in maple syrup country. All is well. I have not had to be near food and I am not at all hungry and I am grateful that I am saving all this grocery money.Can you freeze milk? I put my milk in the freezer because I thought I would just thaw it again and drink it later rather than waste it. Do you know what organic milk costs? It's the price I used to pay for a cheap bottle of wine in the eighties.Thanks for sharing your experience and I am going for it. I wish you health Herbert. -reply by Jane Share this post Link to post Share on other sites