How To Defrag MFT, Pagefile etc. On Boot?

[Chesso 0]

Iv'e tried a few applications and since the last few days, aside from the windows defrag utlity, none them defrag, they just don't do anything.......Some of them reckon the MFT needs to be defragged, but there in-built support for defragging just as windows starts up, always fails, it just sits there on a loading screen and does bugger all......This used to never be a problem on previous windows xp installs, so this particular configuration must be borked somehow.Does anyone know of a utility that can defrag the MFT/PageFile etc on boot?, like the old boot from floppy software, google doesn't seem to be yeilding much unless I'm using the wrong keywords.Some games just today have started crashing on me randomly now all of a sudden also, only a few though which is a bit annoying, I think my drives have gone a little effed on me.Any help is much appreciated. I really need a new computer setup but money is tight and finding work is a pain at the moment.

[miCRoSCoPiC^eaRthLinG 0]

Try O & O Defrag - I've been using it over a long time. It does all you want plus more... of course, it's a licensed tool, but worth every penny

You can get it from: https://www.oo-software.com/en/

[Chesso 0]

Yeah I know someone who has a licensed version, it actually works very well from what I saw and the comments I have heard but it seems all defrag software fails to perform the windows safe method of defragging at boot, for anything.All I see is a blank image with Windows or some such written on it before the login screen comes up and it just freezes there.

[Grafitti 0]

http://www.microsoft.com/err/technet/

 

or if you can trialware it, Diskeeper can expand and defrag MFTs and Pagefiles.

Edited December 29, 2006 by Grafitti (see edit history)

[xboxrulz1405241485 0]

You can defrag your page files :s?I never knew that is even possible.Heck, I dunno even if I can fsck my swap partition in Linux :sxboxrulz

[tansqrx 0]

My all time favorite is Diskkeeper.

It sounds like you may have other problems not relating to a fragmentation problem. A fragmented hard drive will slow performance but it should not cause any crashes. Since you mentioned you installed new games and thatâs when the crashes started, two things come to mind. The first is the tried and true driver problems. Perhaps the newer games are crapping out on an old driver. The second is heat. I have found that the cause of many random reboots is over heated components. This could be either the video card or CPU. You may want to check this if you have your computer in an enclosed area or maybe just open the case and see if the problems go away.

Second on the list can be bad RAM or a failing hard drive. RAM is one of the absolutely hardest things to check for unless you have specialized equipment so I would save that for last. Microsoft also has a utility at http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/ that runs a RAM test. The second possibility is a failing hard drive. There are several applications that will check this (not least of which is the disk that came with the hard drive) but I am a vivid supporter of SpinRite by GRC which can be found at https://www.grc.com/spinrite.htm.

I hope this leads you to investigate other items as I doubt that pagefile fragmentation is your real problem.

[Chesso 0]

this computer is about a year old, the ram and everythign is all the same so unless it's suddenly wanting to die on me (both sticks).The computer itself hasn't been crashing (although it occasionaly does freeze up when I try to load up the list of available drives, but quite rare).It's some of the games themselves that started crashing, just closing themselves which could be a bug, it's just that they were rather random (as they shutdown on things I have done in places I have done them a 100 times before).Heat is a possibility, although I hope not as there isn't much I can do about it for now lol.

[iGuest 3]

Replying to ChessoThis sounds like heat or power related. (I am assuming you haven't done any overclocking ) Have you popped the cover & checked to see if dust bunnies have taken up residence in the CPU heat sink cooling fan?-reply by phi1l

[iGuest 3]

MFT usage is currently 99% of total MFT size.Now how can I face this problem.Please send solution.Can I resize the MFT or Defragment the MFT.-question by Mohsin

[iGuest 3]

MFT usage and size

How To Defrag MFT, Pagefile etc. On Boot?

 

Replying to iGuest

 

Actually, the MFT should automatically resize as needed by the OS. However, I myself am still trying to find a fully reliable and truly effective way to defrag it.

 

This should help elaborate.

 

http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/

 

 

-reply by returned4good

[iGuest 3]

Try JKDefrag - it's a freeware that generates a report after defragmentation so that you can figure out what is the crux of the problem and possible solutions wrt  pagefile, hiberfil etc - to defrag the pagefile, you need to build a BartPE with JKDefrag plugin and boot from the CD. Otherwise, use PageDefrag for defragmentation of the Pagefile.

I've tried JKDefrag and PageDefrag, they are quick and solve some intractable defragmentation problems, though I don't really like their algorithm ie no regard for folder placement and grouping via program use / linkage. Also does not  doanything for the MFT

As for the MFT defragmentation, Microsoft has a utility see https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/320397. Or for easier options, try the time-limited trial versions of Diskeeper or PerfectDisk. They are supposed to be good, but I have not tried these yet.

Good luck

[iGuest 3]

well actuallyHow To Defrag MFT, Pagefile etc. On Boot?

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/227463 

 https://msdn.microsoft.com/magazine/msdn-magazine-issues

Well actually, I just used the xp defrag utility and it didn't defrag the MFT, but the pages definitely say it can, somehow.

 (I have HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESystemCurrentControlSetControlFileSystem NtfsMftZoneReservation = 3)

 

-reply by misc lurker

 

[iGuest 3]

Defragging SuggestionsHow To Defrag MFT, Pagefile etc. On Boot?

I use pagedefrag.Exe and ultradefrag.You can try tunexp1.5 . They claim you can get everything in the right places for ultra fast booting.Regarding the pagefile. Just turn it off and delete it. Run your defragmenter program, then turn it back on. Best to do this in Safe Mode (no networking). Less junk running and you get a better defragment.Best way to avoid the hassles is to not have your pagefile controlled by windows. Set both the minimum and maximum sizes to at least the recommended size that Windows claims you need.This will effectively stop pagefile defragmentation, but only if you turn it off and defragment the hard drive first.If your MFT is 99%, then you need to make it bigger and defragment it. Yes, windows will adjust the size, but it usually creates fragments to do that, which can slow things down.You can use the backup utility from windows, burn it to DVD(s), then reformat/reinstall. Then restore your backup from the DVD disk(s).

-reply by Zolar

[iGuest 3]

Pagfile ManagementHow To Defrag MFT, Pagefile etc. On Boot?

When ever I install an OS I create a small partion which I call S:SWAP (that what it used to be called) that is about 2 times the memory of the computer.  With todays hard drive sizes this is almost nothing space wise.  I them move the Pagefile to this drive, set min to the memory size and max to a number just shy of the volume size.  I never worry about it again.

Now, If I could do the same thing with the hibernation file... 

-reply by Mr. Z

 

[iGuest 3]

How To Defrag MFT, Pagefile etc. On Boot?How To Defrag MFT, Pagefile etc. On Boot?

There is a program that will enable you to defrag your page file, MFT and all other system metafiles that are normally not defraggable. It will also enable you to place those files wherever on your hard drive you like. It called UltimateDefrag. 

Look here: http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/

-reply by Robert