Vista

[dig0 0]

How do you think vista will compare with the previous versions? Microsoft is always buggy, I'm assuming there'll be some issues for a long time.

[xboxrulz1405241485 0]

well, you can go try out the public Beta 2 to see it for yourself.xboxrulz

[wutske 0]

The same as XP.
M$: "There are a lot of security implementations, this is the safest version of windows ever made ..."

A month later, a lot of leaks are found and loads of viri are created. Don't be surprised, it's impossible for M$ to make windows completely safe, the source code for Windows has to be HUGE, you can't find every problem or leak in it, it would take you ages.

[warallthetm 0]

Vista should be a pretty version of xp excpet 10 times heavier. You can dowload the beta version from the windows website but it only lasts for like 2 years. I wouldn't suggest putting any beta os on your computer but if you want give it a try.

[t0nedef 0]

Well, i use vista personally on my laptop, and it runs great, it ran faster then XP did in classic mode, *i never liked the candy coating on either one of them* but with glass turned on it was noticeably slower then xp. anyway, security wise in a windows world, vista can't be beat, stability, amazing for the fact that it's still a beta, i mean, it has some problems, but they are minor, and a lot of the problems that it had when i first installed it on my machine have long since been taking care of, such as the explorer bug where if you visited a site while your network was down and got a page could not be displayed, you wouldn't be able to browse to it again without rebooting. all these things are to be expected of beta software, its testing only to get rid of all the little gremlins. i've never had my computer crash yet, and ie wasn't such a big deal as i use firefox anyway. anyway, the public beta and key generator are no longer available online, ms took them down, so if you want to get into the vista beta program now, you'll have to join the long list of people who are waiting for an invitation.ok, now on to the hard details....if you really want to run beta, these are my recommended min system requirments --without glass --1.6+ GHz processor1 GB ram60 GB HDD *note, you can run with a 20, but that space fills up really quick*gfx card with at least 64MB onboard ramethernet cardwith glass --3 GHz processor2 GB ramnVidia or ATi graphics card with at least 128 MB onboard ram *i recommend 256* using an agp or pci express bus60 GB HDDethernet cardnow as far as sound goes, just about any sound card will work, so i wouldn't worry about that too muchmost of the advancements are in graphics and security but the sound engine is completely redesigned -- ever get that feed back when your mic is too close to a speaker, no more, what goes in your mic will not play out your speaker, i recommend using your sound recorder to test to make sure your mic is working, once you have done that, the sound engine will eliminate all feed back from the mic *from personal experiance* and the interface for volume control is like this --- one master volume for your speakers, and then individual volume controls for each individual application -- playing a game, but hate the music, mute the game and put in a cd... its great!well i hope you have enjoyed my input, if you have any questions about vista, go ahead and ask me, i'm sure to get back to you soon *within a couple of days anyway*

[Fixxxer 0]

The same as XP.M$: "There are a lot of security implementations, this is the safest version of windows ever made ..."

A month later, a lot of leaks are found and loads of viri are created. Don't be surprised, it's impossible for M$ to make windows completely safe, the source code for Windows has to be HUGE, you can't find every problem or leak in it, it would take you ages.

MS to make safest version of windows, I dont think MS would want that, more $ they have othervise. I just dont see it comming in long long time.

[xboxrulz1405241485 0]

M$ can never make anything that is safe, they just bloat their software so much that they can't go back and fix most of the things.xboxrulz

[nightfox1405241487 0]

Vista should be a pretty version of xp excpet 10 times heavier. You can dowload the beta version from the windows website but it only lasts for like 2 years. I wouldn't suggest putting any beta os on your computer but if you want give it a try.

Yeah.. it's XP with 10 gigs of graphics. All the "new" features in Vista have already been done in Linux and MS could just save some time and money by just putting all these "security things" in XP Service Pack 3...

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[WeaponX 0]

Like most users said earlier, I too don't think it will ever be secure or bugless in the near future. They need to focus more on the stability and security of the operating system instead of getting another version out. I guess Vista could be one of the "better" Windows operating systems out there yet. They have put in a lot of time for this version and are still delaying it further...for more testing.10GBs of graphics LOL...no wonder it won't install that easily on my machine. Gave it 15GB and still having problems (might not be size issue now...working it out now ).

[Alegis 0]

Oh really, they should focus on security ... I wonder what they have done for the past years and what the main point of Vista is, including stuff that even annoys the user like UAC. Please, do open your eyes ?

10 gigs of graphics ? What an overstatement.

MS could just save some time and money by just putting all these "security things" in XP Service Pack 3...

Right. No actually, not right. It's not just a patch, at all. Also why coding and testing has taken so long.
It's pretty obvious with the avatars/sigs some posting here are avid Linux fans. I think that's great, but please don't sprout nonsense. There are several bad things about Windows and Microsoft for sure, there's no need to invent or assume stuff that isn't, you have enough to chew on the former.

To the original post, yep issues will arise as it isn't easy at all to craft an OS. Definitely not with client friendy UI as Windows craves. Good thing is that with public beta a lot of information has poured in, and the client version that followed beta 2 had great improvements. Too bad that version didn't get to be beta 2. I don't expect more issues at release than were for XP at release.
There's a lot of new code that can have issues, but the bug feedback and response team improved as well.

I do find it regrettable things like DirectX 10 will only be featured on vista; I like XP as many others do.

I'm not a fanboy of either OS. I use XP, OSX and Kubuntu on 3 computers.

[Jeigh1405241495 0]

You people seem to think they're actually going to release vista heheSaying its the most secure windows is kind of incorrect. Sure its secure against current threats... BUT many independant security researchers have stated it's riddled with holes... just different ones. SImply because its in beta and not alot of people are running it doesn't mean its secure, it just means there isn't enough people on it to attract the darker denizens of the interwebs.I've lost all hope for vista... the only reason I could hypothetically end up using it is if they start releasing games that require it.