Windows Vista Discussions

[philbrennan537 0]

Hi Guys, post here with any information and links you have about windows vista

Edited October 30, 2005 by microscopic^earthling (see edit history)

[speedy 0]

I dont know much about it but have heard that it would have a great graphical interface. Earlier I used its skin on my desktop. It slowed down my computer too much. Thus the requirements would be high with 512MB Ram and 32mb graphics card. I am just waiting for it to launch.

More information about it can be found at microsofts site:

http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/

If anyone else has more information on it then please share it.

Speedy

[xboxrulz1405241485 0]

It is a very bloated operating system (I'm not being biased here), it features the new Aero Desktop Environment an is different from the WIN32 Desktop Environment. It reduces performance of OpenGL on purpose to control the market (true fact).xboxrulz

[twitch 0]

I personally prefer the module system it will employ.But, as I have said so many times, it is to me, a gelled XP.As for reducing the performance of OpenGL, that is a bad move, something that MS are good at.

[Kushika 0]

I see they have made nice glossy buttons and generally a prettier GUI, but still, the interfaces and extra stuff seems to be eating more and more resources everytime. I hope they have more then a fancy 3D whatever they call it. I'm sure they will...but I also woner when it will be released. It's been delayed already, and I bet it won't be out till 2007.

[the empty calorie 0]

Allow me to modify a movie quote to fit this..."The more you tighten your grip, Bill, the more your customer base will slip through your fingers."I still wonder to this day whatever happened with the court cases against Microsoft being a monopoly. I would at least hope that for domination of the world's computers, that Bill would at least give us quality software. Of course, the computer market has drastically shifted from 20 years ago. No longer are the majority (of computer owners) looking for software that is rock solid and gets the job done, despite how "unpretty" it may look. The market has shifted to the average consumer, who doesn't care how well it works, but rather, how it looks. Of course, consumers care to a certain point about performance, but not much of one. If they did, Microsoft wouldn't be where they are today. People just kind of hope, or automatically assume, when a new version of Windows is released, that it will work better that the last. Of course it doesn't. It never does. But, at least it looks prettier, never mind that it makes your computer run slower.I've never seen any actual improvements in Windows, since the days when versions were actually numbered with a 1,2, or 3

[xboxrulz1405241485 0]

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, and you win" - GahndiI think his quote is true about Microsoft. Microsoft is now more vulnerable than ever and it's dominance is toppling or starting to squeek.Can't wait until it does (fall apart)!xboxrulz

[finaldesign1405241487 0]

It's stupid that whole "Vista" idea. I mean, cmmon, I will need at least 1,5GB ram to run it properly, as operating systems grows it just eats up more RAM more HDD space, and more everything... that's just stupid for me.. I mean where it's gonna stop? And the reason this is stupid is because you don't get anything, than just a "fancy" system with nice icons. where is functionality? well, I don't know..

[Jeigh1405241495 0]

I agree with the ideas that it will be bloated. Personally I'd rather have a streamlined OS interface that looks nice but still runs well. We don't need "futuristic" looking desktops in order to enjoy an OS... I'd prefer it just not be a piece of crap myself They are going for mass appeal, and non-techies will eat Vista up once they see all the shinyness. I agree also that it won't be out until 2007... they've pushed it back this far and have no reason to release it before they want to... meaning they still have time to break more things and remove more features and make the interface even prettier ...;)Vista is at the bottom of my priority list. Personally I don't plan to upgrade for a long loooong time. I didn't get XP until it's bugs were worked out, and I think Vista will be 10 times worse. Hell, maybe some good will come out of it and more people will start switching to linux heh. I know I'll be using it more if programs stop being compatible (or at least able to be run well) on xp.Then again who knows, M$ could release the OS on time, have the system req's lower then expected, and make it the best OS ever........ what...it could happen....

Edited February 16, 2006 by Jeigh (see edit history)

[Synn 0]

Personally, as the average consumer(well a little more than average) I want something that looks good and also works good. Well Windows has the first part down but not the second. That is why I perfer I perfer Suse Linux.....it has both down, along with more functionality. I mean Bill doesn't want people buying or using anything for his system without paying him for it. I mean look at how he tries to make you buy a copy of xp for every computer in your house. Thats just crazy...if i buy it once i should be able to put it on all my computers....its like they treat us as thiefs with our own software. I'm a gamer and i'm not going to buy a game that i can only install onto one computer and thats it. I want to install it on any computer i have so that I can play it on all of them. Thats my right as a consume who has purchased the software isn't it. Then it cost so much so its not like I have the money to buy 4 copies. Microsuck can take itself and shove off. I'll stick to linux and the sort. All i need now to make me happy is support for my wireless cards for my laptop and i'll be happy until then i have to use xp on it. And to be truthful I didn't pay for my xp on it I burned a friends copy and use it. Linux is the future.

[KazDoran 0]

Personally, I think Vista is going to be to XP what XP was to Windows 98... A face-lift with a few extras that come along. I mean, seriously, I'm all for innovation and clearer, more appealing designs, as long as it doesn't require to have a machine that can lift off with all the fans around to cool it.I like to have performance as well, and only fairly recently has Windows XP achieved that requirement.I have absolutely nothing against Windows (well except for the fact it has some... uhh... "features" ) and I'm both a Windows and Linux user, and what one can't do, the other does, so...Anyway back on topic.From all the beta versions I've seen around, the recommended specs are indeed pretty high, even if it was XP with just another graphical interface. Hopefully, Microsoft will make it to decrease the specs quite a bit, otherwise only people with top-of-the-line PCs will be able to run it decently while running, let's say, a next-generation game.Probably you'll just shut down to the 98 graphical interface after a while, but hey, whatever. :oOn other matters, well, we'll just have to wait and see it, because some of the stuff that'll be "new" on Vista looks appealing, but you never know how it's really going to work.If you don't/won't use Windows for whatever reason you may have, and would like some extra eye-candy on your Linux, fear not! Xgl is coming, and let's say it's fast as hell, even with a mid-range PC.

[xboxrulz1405241485 0]

mind you, XGL isn't comming, it's out (not stable, but it works)xboxrulz

[Shinn 0]

when windows vista retail will be launched?

[Grafitti 0]

I asked a tech friend of mine, who works with both macs and Windows-based systems, and is also a certified engineer from Microsoft -- he gets free copies of all windows system OSes for review. what he said is that Vista is basically a slow version of Tiger OSX. Same basic thing as Mac, but with a windows based system architecture, and running at a much slower clip than Tiger. His advice? Either switch to Mac, or stick with XP Pro. No use in shelling out for the vistan for several years yet, was his advice. i'm more than happy to follow it. forget the macs as they're out of my price range, but i'll stick with XP, at least for now.

[James_K 0]

Notice from szupie:

Copied from http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/

The unthinkable has happened: Microsoft has delayed Windows Vista yet again.
Jim Allchin, co-president of Microsoft's Platforms & Services Division, announced on March 21 during a conference call that Microsoft is now planning to roll out Windows Vista in two stages.

The business, volume-licensed versions of Vista will now ship in November 2006, as many expected. But the consumer, retail versions of Vista won't be ready until January 2007.

Until March 21, Microsoft officials had said Vista would be ready to ship in time for the holiday 2006 selling season.

The delay will likely impact PC makers who had been counting on preloading Vista on new PCs this fall.

Allchin attributed the decision to delay the retail versions of Vista to quality concerns.

"Product quality is the first priority. We won't compromise on that," Allchin said, reiterating his oft-repeated statement that product quality trumps all else when it comes to Windows.

When asked for further details, Allchin cited performance, drivers, testing and security as areas where Microsoft and some of its partners had concerns.

Microsoft is still planning to release the next test build of Vista, its "consumer Community Technology Preview" build, to an estimated 2 million testers sometime in the next quarter, Allchin said.

Microsoft had been telling testers to expect that CTP build in April. Lately, however, some partners said they heard Microsoft might not make that April date.

Microsoft is still on track to release the Vista code to manufacturing in 2006, however, Allchin said.

"We expect some to say that this [the next CTP build] was fine and why didn't they just ship this," Allchin said.

"We needed just a few more weeks," Allchin said. "Industry partners need quite a bit of time and certainty about that time."

Allchin downplayed the potential impact on Microsoft partners of the delay.

"Some partners will be impacted more than others," Allchin said. "To be clear, some [partners] wanted us to continue, but we wanted to think about the whole industry."

Allchin said that Microsoft is not changing its Vista forecasts, and is expecting the delay in retail availability to have little, if any, impact on revenue, as the company will still be delivering the product in the fiscal 2007 timeframe.

One Microsoft TAP (Technology Adoption Partner) tester, who requested anonymity, was not as forgiving about the slip.

"I think that the delay is significant...Microsoft is missing a key time over the holidays in bringing Vista to the most consumers possible at launch," the partner said.

Other company watchers said they were not surprised by the delay, claiming the warning signs had been apparent for some time.

Microsoft's decision not to issue a December CTP of Vista, as well as its strategy to forgo a traditional Beta 2 build in favor of a series of CTPs gave some Microsoft watchers cause for concern.

Edited April 10, 2006 by szupie (see edit history)