abhiram 0 Report post Posted September 27, 2005 Hi, recently, a few days ago, I logged into GNOME for a spell and then logged out and didn't go back to it again. I started using KDE but it's been slowing down a bit these days. I gave the command 'ps -e' and it shows GNOME and Nautilus running in the background. Here's a sample output: PID TTY TIME CMD 1 ? 00:00:04 init 2 ? 00:00:00 keventd 3 ? 00:00:00 ksoftirqd_CPU0 4 ? 00:00:00 kswapd 5 ? 00:00:00 bdflush 6 ? 00:00:00 kupdated 10 ? 00:00:00 mdrecoveryd 11 ? 00:00:00 kjournald 61 ? 00:00:01 syslogd 64 ? 00:00:00 klogd 93 ? 00:00:00 udevd 279 ? 00:00:00 khubd 2809 ? 00:00:00 rpc.portmap 2815 ? 00:00:00 inetd 2819 ? 00:00:00 sshd 2823 ? 00:00:00 named 2834 ? 00:00:00 crond 2836 ? 00:00:00 atd 2839 ? 00:00:00 sendmail 2842 ? 00:00:00 sendmail 2886 ? 00:00:00 httpd 2890 ? 00:00:00 smbd 2891 ? 00:00:00 nmbd 2894 ? 00:00:00 httpd 2895 ? 00:00:00 httpd 2896 ? 00:00:00 httpd 2897 ? 00:00:00 httpd 2898 ? 00:00:00 gpm 2901 tty6 00:00:00 agetty 2902 ? 00:00:00 kdm 2903 ? 00:00:00 httpd 2910 ? 00:00:08 X 2917 ? 00:00:00 kdm 3032 ? 00:00:00 startkde 3164 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit 3172 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit 3182 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit 3192 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit 3288 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit 3326 ? 00:00:04 artsd 3331 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit 3332 ? 00:00:00 kwrapper 3335 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit 3338 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit 3368 ? 00:00:01 kdeinit 3392 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit 3417 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit 3421 ? 00:00:00 nautilus 3477 ? 00:00:00 gaim 3482 ? 00:00:00 gconfd-2 3497 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit 3519 ? 00:00:04 amarokapp 3587 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit 3810 ? 00:00:00 bonobo-activati 3818 ? 00:00:00 nautilus 3819 ? 00:00:00 nautilus 3821 ? 00:00:00 gnome-vfs-daemo 3831 ? 00:00:00 gnome-vfs-daemo 3832 ? 00:00:00 gnome-vfs-daemo 3867 ? 00:00:00 amarokapp 3869 ? 00:00:00 nautilus 3870 ? 00:00:00 nautilus 3874 ? 00:00:00 mapping-daemon 3915 ? 00:00:00 amarokapp 3947 ? 00:00:01 amarokapp 3948 ? 00:00:04 amarokapp 3950 ? 00:00:00 amarokapp 3989 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit 3991 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit 3992 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit 3994 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit 4085 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit 4095 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit 5694 ? 00:00:00 firefox 5712 ? 00:00:00 run-mozilla.sh 5717 ? 00:00:08 firefox-bin 5745 ? 00:00:00 firefox-bin 5746 ? 00:00:00 firefox-bin 5759 ? 00:00:00 firefox-bin 5982 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit 5995 pts/1 00:00:00 bash 6099 ? 00:00:00 amarokapp10616 pts/1 00:00:00 ps10617 ? 00:00:00 nmbd Why is it constantly starting Nautilus when I reboot? It starts back even if kill it. Also, why are there so many kdeinits? Ever since I logged into GNOME, my screensaver also stopped working... in both KDE and FLUXBOX.Any ideas? Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yordan 10 Report post Posted September 27, 2005 try starting "ps -f" instead of "ps -e", in order to see also the parent process ID. Then you will be able to see which process started your kdeinit, and you will be able to debug more indepth.RegardsYordan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abhiram 0 Report post Posted September 27, 2005 Thanks for the tip Yordan, that's pretty useful. I've played around with it for a while and now it no longer starts Nautilus... but the 'ps -fe' is showing some pretty weird things: abhiram 3171 1 0 21:12 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit Running...abhiram 3179 1 0 21:12 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit: dcopserver --nosidabhiram 3192 3171 0 21:12 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit: klauncherabhiram 3202 1 0 21:12 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit: kdedabhiram 3299 3202 0 21:12 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit: kdedabhiram 3346 1 0 21:12 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit: kaccessabhiram 3351 1 0 21:12 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit: ksmserverabhiram 3356 3171 0 21:12 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit: kwin -session 10aed6dad7000111203124600000003140000_1abhiram 3384 1 1 21:12 ? 00:00:01 kdeinit: kdesktopabhiram 3406 1 0 21:12 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit: kickerabhiram 3429 1 0 21:12 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit: kmix -session 10aed6dad7000112784068600000033500012_1abhiram 3481 1 0 21:12 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit: knotifyabhiram 3498 3171 0 21:12 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit: kio_file file /tmp/ksocket-abhiram/klauncher2flH6b.sl Are these kdeinits ok? kmix, klauncher, knotify and kdesktop I can understand... but what about the others? Also, any idea why the screensaver won't start? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qwijibow 0 Report post Posted September 27, 2005 lso, why are there so many kdeinits?KDE_INIT is like a library linker for KDE. kde will load kdeinit for each kde program you start.if you are interesting in speeding up program loading time, and removing the need for kdeinit thenmaybe you should have a look at pre-link.Prelink is a tool which calculaltes linking tables, and caches them.when KDE is pre-linked, KDE_INIT is nolonger needed, and will not run.Also program loading speeds will be improved, especially ones that use a lot of libraries.have a look at prelink how-to'sprelink rquires that libraries are compiled with the compiler argument -fPIC.some distro's do this, some dont, try and find a tutorial specific to you distro, you may need to re-compile some packages. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abhiram 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 I've looked around for prelink, but from what I've heard, it's more useful for older machines. With new systems, there really isn't much of a speed boost ... atleast, not on Slackware. Anyways, KDE isn't too slow on my system. I just wanted to know if KDEINIT was a bug or not. Thanks for clearing that up .I'm just waiting to get some free time on my hand so I can try out gentoo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yordan 10 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 I'm still rather surprised with all these kdeinit's. Are they present if you reboot your system ? Yordan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abhiram 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 Are they present if you reboot your system ? Yup, they're there always... whether I reboot or not. I'm using Kernel 2.4 by the way. Maybe that has something to do with it. I don't recall having so many in Mandrake (not 'driva' when I used it a year ago ) which was running kernel 2.6. Come to think of it I never noticed it until recently when my screensaver stopped working. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xboxrulz1405241485 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 well, I haven't used a 2.4.x kernel since the last release on SuSE (which included a 2.4.x, I think it was 9.0), anyways, this never happens on 2.6.11.4-21.9-default on SuSE Linux 9.3xboxrulz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abhiram 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 Well... i've been trying to install Kernel 2.6 for some time now, but keep running into some problems. Slackware gives you 2.4 by default and you have to upgrade to 2.6 on your own. But as far as it goes, 2.4 is working fine, so I really don't have a problem with it. A little slow, but faster than windows . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qwijibow 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2005 from what i remember about slackware, in version 10.X the 2.6 series kernel was in a testing folder in the packages directory of the install disks.i think its just a mattr of installing it, then editing grub or lilo.I think Slackware 10.X is 2.6 ready.I liked slackware, but didnt like the absence of an optimised kernel etc.the slaware kernel is i486 otimised i think, or atleast it was in 10.0.u used to re-compile it with Athlon optimisation.Not that the performace boost is noticable or anything, i just like re-compiling things.. lol, such a nerd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abhiram 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2005 Yea, some people did install 2.6 directly during installation without any problems. But when I was installing slackware, I wanted the most stable system and so .... I installed only kernel 2.4. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xboxrulz1405241485 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2005 the Linux kernel 2.4.x is less stable, IMO. 2.6.x, is much much better, it has improved feature and failsafes.xboxrulz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yordan 10 Report post Posted November 10, 2005 Did you solve your problem, abhiram ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abhiram 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2005 Nah ... I tried, but nothing worked. Anyways, I finally formatted my 8 month old slackware and got gentoo on it now. I think there are some issues with gnome and slackware anyway. That's why Paul Volkerding (the guy who maintains slackware) finally removed gnome from slack 10.2 after 3 years of thinking back and forth. No problems of that sort with gentoo right now... thanks anyway . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yordan 10 Report post Posted November 11, 2005 So, I will continue sticking on RHEL3 and on Mandrake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
