I Want To Use Trap17 More.

[Diffusr 0]

I want to use Xisto all the time like I can stay on digg almost all day browsing and commenting. Every time I think about going to Xisto it's like OH GOD what a chore! Seriously you guys are way behind the curve. This website was really cool when it started but things have moved on since then. We're into web 2.0 and almost web 3.0 now and Xisto is not getting it.If the site were easier to use it would help a lot. The forum categories are too unorganised. I'm not saying there are too many categories. The variety is something that I like and encourages content from all over the place. But it needs organising.Heck, even if it were more like reddit than digg I would come here a hell of a lot more. I really love the idea of getting something (hosting) in exchange for content. But the way this site is set up makes it seem like WORK and on the internet, anything remotely resembling work is like a repelling magnet for most browsers (the people sort not the applications).I sincerely recommend that whoever is in charge of the design and implementation of Xisto spends about 3 months checking out the other websites that are out there coining it in, looking great with free services for their users.Here are some places to start looking and getting ideas: facebook (you say you hate it but it works) digg twitter you get the idea.cheers

[truefusion 3]

The way information is laid out and how fast it is to reach a certain destination does not prevent GUI-literate people from using a website. This has been proven through MySpace's history and other websites. But you appear to be falsely comparing websites. Let us consider social media in general. Why do people use it? The most common reason for using any social media website is: "My friends use it." It's not, "Because the layout is just that good!"A lot of people for some odd reason have taken a liking to the way facebook looks and (or) works and therefore started riding the facebook train. The reason for it i am uncertain, but obviously they feel they're going to gain something from it. Social media websites like facebook and Twitter, et cetera, are geared for different things and do not contain the amount of content a forum is capable of, therefore making it easier to display and broadcast data. While this forum's purpose is to promote content, it is on a different level than the websites you have referenced.Digg is an online bookmark and their front page has a similar layout to that of any directory. There is nothing organized about it in the sense that you ambiguously bring up. Unless you choose to take notice of one of the categories at the top, then there is no organization that you ambiguously mention. Why can Digg afford to have such a simple navigation? Because the content on their site is minimal in the context of simple bookmarking. The fact that you are allowed to comment on each bookmark is an attempt on their part to keep visitors on their site, making the bookmarked site appear like a temporary reading.When it comes to a forum there is more of interest than that of the sites you mention. To use Digg as an example, visitors generally would not care about who bookmarked the site on Digg; even commenting on a bookmark does not require you to acknowledge the poster. Relationships, therefore, are less likely to happen. On a forum relationships can happen, of which may also extend to outside the forum. In this case it is leaning more to what facebook is. However, a forum is normally geared toward a specific interest, therefore you have more things in common with the other users.Chores, also, do not necessarily prevent people from using a site or service. But this area normally concerns the person's personality. Consider: Is it not a chore to sign up to anything? Is it not a chore to log in to anything? People will make these "sacrifices" if they are interested. Yeah, making the process easier to complete these tasks should always be a concern, but time will always be wasted for something. Concerning the forums' organization, what is it about it that makes it seem like a chore? The forums are organized no different than most other forums. Saying it is "unorganized" is not enough information.The technologies used by a website or service is itself a business decision, so though it may seem like a "cool thing to do," it does not mean that it is necessary to make use of it. What you bring up concerns mostly the design aspect of the forums, so the technologies that it makes use of is a bit irrelevant. Yeah, it may be nice to have a different layout, but what is it about the usual forum layout that disinterests you?

[anwiii 17]

although you have a good arguement, TF, times are times and trap is about to fall behind. yea, it will still earn a profit, but only from those who aren't members....

[mahesh2k 0]

I know you feel less activity and some other issues of Xisto but how digg, reddit and other social media sites are comparable with Xisto forum ? I mean Xisto is forum not some SEO specialist/timepass surfers social news network. People post here to gain mycents and share some news or views. I mean in what way it should be like digg or reddit ? i mean what is the purpose or digg or reddit ? to give mycents for shared hosting by marketing content ?Xisto forums look the way as forum should look like. How can you expect forum to look like digg clone ? and what is the purpose of that ? besides even if that is implemented what guarantee can you or anyone gives about CPC-clicks ? visitors or any SEO side benefit ? IPB can't be made like digg or reddit clone and if it's possible then it'll simply degrade the value of having forum at first place. Voting for threads and giving negative reps to comments will just increase burden of forum server with no real-time advantage for those who want to earn mycents. Do you want design changes ? Hmm, i've no issues with that but asking for dig/reddit way for forums gives no benefit for those who want to earn mycent and keep hosting.

[truefusion 3]

although you have a good arguement, TF, times are times and trap is about to fall behind. yea, it will still earn a profit, but only from those who aren't members....

But if this concerns earning profit, it would touch on a matter other than what was brought up by the topic starter. Even if new users find the wealth of forums intimidating, i wouldn't expect that to affect profit, mostly due to the fact that people who come here are focusing their attention on the word "free" in "free hosting." Yeah, those who aren't members can potentially be customers of Xisto - Web Hosting; but even those that are members are also potential customers of Xisto's paid services. I know that the back-up income deals with guests, since the pages Google indexes are usually the part of the forums that are filled with advertisements. But those pages aren't the forum's index.
I could probably think of a user interface for the forum's index that may make things less intimidating, but we would not be able to know how well it will be received until implemented. Yeah, we could probably throw out some mock-ups to our members and see how they receive it, but functionality deals with interaction, and i have no idea how to make IPB themes.

[OpaQue 15]

I am a person who still lives in the world who like to admire butterflies. Forum moderation, hosting, advertising, server hardware, sales, operating systems, control panels, html, php, javascript, ajax, websites, yada..yada..yada and the world outside computers is being discovered by me slowly over the years and I m still learning. Honestly speaking, this place, just the way it is .... is doing its job, just fine. If there is something new I learn, I share it to my close friends, you good people and sometimes facebook "currently". Who knows what might happen tomorrow, may be I spark up an interest in photoshop and you will see some little logo changes or menus will start popping over the place. If someone suggests a good service on the forum and if I feel I can use it for all, I won't step back to implement it... something like kontera text links or wibiya footer bar on qupis n sites.Unless something really needs an urgent attention like server issue or abuse, I usually don't bother. Patience is one thing I feel God tries to teach me a lot and no matter how much I learn, I still feel its not enough. Good members.. i.e. everyone with post count over 999 :angel: will be with me prolly till internet lasts long, I hope that THE SIXTH SENSE technology does not take over. even if it does, I wish all Trappers will get even closer .. haha.Anyway, I understand that this forum needs newer versions, changing web templates, mycent-to-paypal s==3jr sorry.. but, sorry. If it happens, it will happen.BRB!

[Diffusr 0]

I know you feel less activity and some other issues of Xisto but how digg, reddit and other social media sites are comparable with Xisto forum ? I mean Xisto is forum not some SEO specialist/timepass surfers social news network. People post here to gain mycents and share some news or views. I mean in what way it should be like digg or reddit ? i mean what is the purpose or digg or reddit ? to give mycents for shared hosting by marketing content ?
Xisto forums look the way as forum should look like. How can you expect forum to look like digg clone ? and what is the purpose of that ? besides even if that is implemented what guarantee can you or anyone gives about CPC-clicks ? visitors or any SEO side benefit ? IPB can't be made like digg or reddit clone and if it's possible then it'll simply degrade the value of having forum at first place. Voting for threads and giving negative reps to comments will just increase burden of forum server with no real-time advantage for those who want to earn mycents.

Do you want design changes ? Hmm, i've no issues with that but asking for dig/reddit way for forums gives no benefit for those who want to earn mycent and keep hosting.

The reason I keep mentioning digg, reddit etc in relation to Xisto is not to say that you should "clone" these sites, but get some ideas on how to simplify the forum layout and keep people here. The web 2.0 sites have a dynamic feel to them, they are always changing e.g. diggs front page, plus there are quite a few peripheral applications that spice up the user experience. By contrast, the Xisto forums have a very static look and feel, even though new content is being added every day. Surely you could take advantage of this user generated content in a more creative way?
It seems that you are content to stick with a bland, grey format that is purely functional for people to only gain mycents in the most basic way.
"If it aint broke don't fix it" certainly has its merits but you guys could could be running with the big dogs with just a little more ambition.
I come here to earn mycents and will continue to do so in a minimal way. My suggestions are that I (and thousands of others) would be motivated to come here and earn A LOT more mycents if the user experience were improved.
Ask yourself: If every user doubled the time they spend on Xisto therefore doubling the content added and increasing click through rates, how would that affect your bottom line?
If you are content to bounce along the bottom, then dont let my opinion distract you, but there will be a point of diminishing returns and someone else will do what you are dong but a lot better (which wouldn't be too hard as it is) then you might wish you had taken some well meaning advice on board.

[sheepdog 10]

LOL, now that's my kinda attitude! If it ain't broke don't fix it! Good for you Opaque! I'm with you, I like Trap 17 just the way it is.

the world outside computers is being discovered by me slowly over the years and I m still learning.

But you say this, and then come up with, "something like kontera text links or wibiya footer bar on qupis n sites."
And I have absolutly no idea what any of that even means! You may still be learning, but oh boy are you ever way ahead of me on the old learning curve!