Ho-oh'sRealm 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2009 Well, I certainly don't.I personally think Java is really annoying, and pretty evil at times, and can be a real nuisance. It annoys the hell out of me normally, and causes a lot of problems, especially in firefox, where java well...doesn't cope well.Javascript is also annoying, and like java, it can be a pain to use. Personally, I'd rather stick with HTML, PHP or some other web languages, but Javascript is necessary sometimes (although I try to stay away from using it as much as possible)What about you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manish-mohania 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2009 I think for a novice, development process in Java is a bit intimidating as compared to php. I mean you have to create servlet, install files in a particular web file structure. If you are using an IDE then it is fine, but still you need to have a bit of knowledge, just to get started.Java has it's own advantages, it has excellent database access API and testing and debugging tools. It has web application frameworks that provides clean seperation of presentation and bussiness logic.I find Javascript to be a bit difficult to debug. Good news for java developers is that they can use Google Web Toolkit(GWT) to build/test programs in Java and then translate them to javascript.I like both java/php Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magiccode9 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2009 Java still is a good language to learn. Particular if you want to developing enterprise applications / services.So many enterprise company are using it. One of the big company no surprisely is Orcale.As I know, almost all products do support java. And it has an developering tool call JDeveloper. Also build on Java and cross-platform toolkit (SWT).But it disadvancage was it require many statement to complete a simple tasks. As it is showed on some article I reading now.Javascript also good. But I'am waiting its new version. ECMAScript 4.0. It is build on almose full OOP design. Much the same as those language such as C#, Java do. But it still lack of inheritance feature. (For this, I have to check the ECMAScript draft spec. when I back home to confirm it). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quatrux 4 Report post Posted November 1, 2009 First of all I want to say that Java and Javascript is not the same an are totally two different programming languages, in fact Javascript is a scripting language, but you can find that on google.I agree that using Java might be a pain for a newbie, but once you get there, you may find it to be quite a safe language to use, even though sometimes it may compile quite a long time and etc. but if you're a pro developer, you might have a lot of knowledge how to do everything right. I also don't enjoy java sites in a browser, sometimes it doesn't work as it should, but a lot of sites are using JSP to create their websites, they have a lot of power to control the site. Java can be used to create all those mobile phones games, which is also good, the only good thing about java for me is that it works on all platforms and no porting are required.As for Javascript which is totally different and does not relate to java just sound very similar, I also used to avoid as much as possible, but current browsers and sites for several years now are using it a lot, it can do a lot and it's convenient, it's so much faster now that you can use lots of javascript, for debugging you can use Dragonfly on Opera or Firebug on Firefox, it's really a great tool to debug javascript and more. Nevertheless as much as I like to not use javascript, I am required sometimes to use it and I for some time now only use jquery framework and jquery plugins which I edit for my purposes on a certain website, it's a really great framework for Javascript, I even started to like using Javascript and it's almost cross browser, I did not have a lot of issues making it work on such bad browsers like IE6 or IE7. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kleong 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2009 Many functions are using javascript and therefore it is an important feature. Having said that, most of the ad tags, they are served by js. At such, most people will turn off their browser's javascript function to block off the ads and thus render other function to be disable as well.As for java, I think they are cool. And as mentioned, definitely not for a novice programmer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ho-oh'sRealm 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2009 First of all I want to say that Java and Javascript is not the same an are totally two different programming languages, in fact Javascript is a scripting language, but you can find that on google.I agree that using Java might be a pain for a newbie, but once you get there, you may find it to be quite a safe language to use, even though sometimes it may compile quite a long time and etc. but if you're a pro developer, you might have a lot of knowledge how to do everything right. I also don't enjoy java sites in a browser, sometimes it doesn't work as it should, but a lot of sites are using JSP to create their websites, they have a lot of power to control the site. Java can be used to create all those mobile phones games, which is also good, the only good thing about java for me is that it works on all platforms and no porting are required.As for Javascript which is totally different and does not relate to java just sound very similar, I also used to avoid as much as possible, but current browsers and sites for several years now are using it a lot, it can do a lot and it's convenient, it's so much faster now that you can use lots of javascript, for debugging you can use Dragonfly on Opera or Firebug on Firefox, it's really a great tool to debug javascript and more. Nevertheless as much as I like to not use javascript, I am required sometimes to use it and I for some time now only use jquery framework and jquery plugins which I edit for my purposes on a certain website, it's a really great framework for Javascript, I even started to like using Javascript and it's almost cross browser, I did not have a lot of issues making it work on such bad browsers like IE6 or IE7. Yes, I know that java and javascript are both different, although they can relate to each other, and I don't want to sound like I'm spamming if I make a separate topic for each of them.Eh, yes, java is a pain, especially for those who are new to it.Javascript is annoying to code, and annoying to edit as well, which is yet another reason why I dislike it.However, they're both really important, so... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites