How We View Our Youth

[Will.Allison 0]

As a 16 year old, I am very frustrated with how much I am restrained. Our society has a very negative view on youths because of their stereotypical form. I am not the "stereotypical youth". I consider myself quite, polite, responsible, and mature(judge me by the previous posts I made if you doubt me). With that said, the amount I am able to do with respect is severely limited. I know society can't give out the same amount of privileges they give to adults to the youth, that is the frustrating part. I know as a whole we should not be given equal respect as adults because their are many of the "stereotypical youths". But what about the rest of us? We just have to sit and wait until we are older before we get the same amount of respect. This same applies to almost all stereotypes. Why am I posting about this one? Because it applies to me directly and immediately. This does not mean in any way I see this problem higher than any of the other stereotypes, in fact, it is one of the lesser. But it is still very frustrating to me.What do you guys think about the respect we give the youth? What do you think should change or stay the same?

[Soviet 0]

Do you know why they are taking or calling you young? Because 16 years old man just starting secondary school.You will not child after you end secondary school and you will work.. That age 18 years is very good age. When I was 16years old I haven't got experience as now.When you will have your own family or you will live alone without your family you will be man.. I hate this young people who think about them I'm the strongest and I'm the best, but they havn't in theirs head nothing As I can see I was happier when I was 15years old and they called me child.. Now you must look to your future and start thinking about your life..My opinion but all about OT just ignore :XD: Thanks

[NeoTeemo 0]

Will, could you please give us a couple of examples on what you mean by disrespect?

 

I have a lot to say about this subject, actually, but I need to understand exactly what motivated you to write this post, so that my reply can be a little personalized. I wouldn't want to rant for hours then find out I was talking about something completely different :XD:

 

Also, do you believe your entire age-group faces the same irritation as yours? Is it a general complaint, I mean?

[TikiPrincess 0]

When I was 16, I thought I knew what was best for me. I was a good kid. I didn't do drugs, drink, or go to wild parties. I was a good student, respectful to adults, well-informed on world affairs thanks to my dad always listening to the news or NPR, and considerably well-read compared to many others my age. Despite being a rather well-behaved youth, I still cringe now when I think how naive and foolish I was at that age. However, I understand what you mean. You're in that awkward in-between stage where you're old enough to explore your own beliefs and ideas, to think and act independently and be responsible for your actions, but you're still in that youthful boundary testing phase where most kids do stupid things to find out how far they go without being punished. It's probably worse for you than most others because you're intelligent enough to reason each side of the issue. You know why adults treat you like this, but you also know why these stereotypes and restrictions shouldn't apply to you.My suggestion would be to prove that you shouldn't be lumped with all the other kids your age. One of the first steps to establishing independence is to get a job. If your parents won't let you or no one's hiring, then try volunteering with an organization like the Red Cross, Habitat for Humanity, or something like that. This will show others your level of responsibility, earn you some extra cash that your parents can't have any say over, and give your college apps a nice padding.

[cangor 0]

Will, could you please give us a couple of examples on what you mean by disrespect?

 

I have a lot to say about this subject, actually, but I need to understand exactly what motivated you to write this post, so that my reply can be a little personalized. I wouldn't want to rant for hours then find out I was talking about something completely different :XD:

 

Also, do you believe your entire age-group faces the same irritation as yours? Is it a general complaint, I mean?

hmmm, I guess I'll try to answer this.

 

First of all, there are kids who have everything and get treated like much more from adults than they should, but a lot of children around my age (I'm fifteen, sixteen in three months) get treated just like that - kids. Now, a lot of them deserve that, but, I guess what Will.Allison is trying to say is this: (well, actually this is my story basically, but I guess this is kinda the way Will feels too.)

 

- I am a junior in high school (I actually skipped a year. Most kids in my grade are 16 or 17 right now)

- If I want to buy something besides food or clothes, I pay for it with my own money from my own job (which I might add, pays very nicely)

- My I.Q. is about 160, which means my mental age is that of a 25 year old.

- I am a straight A student taking the hardest classes at my school

- I am responsible, courteous, I am always thinking of others and not myself, I am going out of my way to help others all the time

- I am an Eagle Scout. (If you're in boy scouts you know how huge that is)

- If I break something, (physical or not), I make it right.

 

I could go on but you don't need to hear me talk about how great I am. Basically, my point is my parents still treat me like I'm five, whenever I go into a store I get weird looks from the clerks because they think I'm going to go around shoplifting, when I want to talk to an adult and confide in them they think I'm being ridiculous, and adults in general don't think that I'm anything more than a fifteen year old punk.

 

That about how you feel, Will?

[sheepdog 10]

Ah...Youth! I think at age 16 the urge to be adult burns the hottest of all the ages. So close, and yet so far! You feel confident in yourself, you think you have the answers and know what is best for you. Trust me, you don't. With age comes wisdom, and you have to go through all these stages in order to develope into the person you will be. And part of growing up and the things you need to learn are patience. Waiting for the privledges of adulthood is a leason you will learn, like it or not. Please re read Tiki's post here too. It is beautiful and elogant and right on the mark. Did a much better job than I could, I almost didnt' bother to post after reading hers!Hang in there kid, you will be surprized how quickly the time comes when you are wishing you were only 16!

[Renaissance 0]

To me there are 2 modes of respect. The first mode is material involving personal space and property, while the second mode is immaterial in terms of intellectual respect and the such.The material mode should be given to everyone, and is in fact considered a human right; an example is the right to own property and not have another take or damage it. This mode is for everyone but is not taken seriously until you're about 18.In my opinion the second mode, immaterial respect, is something you earn, and should not be given. No demographic should receive instant respect. It's true that you should "respect your elders" but all that really means is that you should consider their greater experience. Think about it, a 19 year-old and a 45 year-old are both your elders, but what can be called your "default respect" is almost a function of their age difference to you; independant of their personality you have more default respect for the older of the two.I have a feeling your complaint falls between the two. My advice is to you that you have to earn the second mode of respect on a person to person basis which indeed takes patience. I know you don't want to hear it but legally you are still considered a minor, keep that in mind.

[Will.Allison 0]

Do you know why they are taking or calling you young? Because 16 years old man just starting secondary school.

 

You will not child after you end secondary school and you will work.. That age 18 years is very good age.

When I was 16years old I haven't got experience as now.When you will have your own family or you will live alone without your family you will be man.. I hate this young people who think about them I'm the strongest and I'm the best, but they havn't in theirs head nothing :XD:

I do not think I am the best or the strongest, I do not think I deserve more respect than an ordinary person. I just don't think I deserve the respect that is given to a person my age.

 

 

Will, could you please give us a couple of examples on what you mean by disrespect?

What I mean by disrespect is that it is very hard to do anything without other people thinking its a joke, or your not trying to do something seriously. Like cangor said, how I am immediately a suspect when I walk into a store, and stuff like that.

 

 

When I was 16, I thought I knew what was best for me. I was a good kid. I didn't do drugs, drink, or go to wild parties. I was a good student, respectful to adults, well-informed on world affairs thanks to my dad always listening to the news or NPR, and considerably well-read compared to many others my age. Despite being a rather well-behaved youth, I still cringe now when I think how naive and foolish I was at that age.

However, I understand what you mean. You're in that awkward in-between stage where you're old enough to explore your own beliefs and ideas, to think and act independently and be responsible for your actions, but you're still in that youthful boundary testing phase where most kids do stupid things to find out how far they go without being punished. It's probably worse for you than most others because you're intelligent enough to reason each side of the issue. You know why adults treat you like this, but you also know why these stereotypes and restrictions shouldn't apply to you.

My suggestion would be to prove that you shouldn't be lumped with all the other kids your age. One of the first steps to establishing independence is to get a job. If your parents won't let you or no one's hiring, then try volunteering with an organization like the Red Cross, Habitat for Humanity, or something like that. This will show others your level of responsibility, earn you some extra cash that your parents can't have any say over, and give your college apps a nice padding.

You have a very good point. But one of my reasons for wanting more respect is jobs. I tried to apply to a few, and as for being my first job, no one accepted me. I understand that they may want someone with more experience, but for a cashier or a stocker, it dosn't take that much skill. I believe a major reason they turned me down was because of the stereotype of people my age.

 

 

hmmm, I guess I'll try to answer this.

 

First of all, there are kids who have everything and get treated like much more from adults than they should, but a lot of children around my age (I'm fifteen, sixteen in three months) get treated just like that - kids. Now, a lot of them deserve that, but, I guess what Will.Allison is trying to say is this: (well, actually this is my story basically, but I guess this is kinda the way Will feels too.)

 

- I am a junior in high school (I actually skipped a year. Most kids in my grade are 16 or 17 right now)

- If I want to buy something besides food or clothes, I pay for it with my own money from my own job (which I might add, pays very nicely)

- My I.Q. is about 160, which means my mental age is that of a 25 year old.

- I am a straight A student taking the hardest classes at my school

- I am responsible, courteous, I am always thinking of others and not myself, I am going out of my way to help others all the time

- I am an Eagle Scout. (If you're in boy scouts you know how huge that is)

- If I break something, (physical or not), I make it right.

 

I could go on but you don't need to hear me talk about how great I am. Basically, my point is my parents still treat me like I'm five, whenever I go into a store I get weird looks from the clerks because they think I'm going to go around shoplifting, when I want to talk to an adult and confide in them they think I'm being ridiculous, and adults in general don't think that I'm anything more than a fifteen year old punk.

 

That about how you feel, Will?

Yes, that is a lot of what I am saying. However, it is not all.

 

 

In my opinion the second mode, immaterial respect, is something you earn, and should not be given. No demographic should receive instant respect. It's true that you should "respect your elders" but all that really means is that you should consider their greater experience. Think about it, a 19 year-old and a 45 year-old are both your elders, but what can be called your "default respect" is almost a function of their age difference to you; independant of their personality you have more default respect for the older of the two.

That si also a very good point. But it is hard to get close enough to earn that respect because of immediate judgment that I receive. Yes, it is possible to do that and I have with a few friends and parents of friends, but it is hard when you don't know someone.

[Renaissance 0]

In regards to getting a job, I know it sounds flaky but you need a "sponsor" of sorts to vouch for how respectable you are. The information age may be upon us but the power of the "word of mouth" has not decreased; if anything it has inceased since people have generally become more suspicious.A good example would be to use a neighbor, or even uncle (with a different last name :XD:), as a reference who can say something simple like "He's helped me with yard work" or something to that effect.

[TikiPrincess 0]

You have a very good point. But one of my reasons for wanting more respect is jobs. I tried to apply to a few, and as for being my first job, no one accepted me. I understand that they may want someone with more experience, but for a cashier or a stocker, it dosn't take that much skill. I believe a major reason they turned me down was because of the stereotype of people my age.

I agree, it's hard to get a job at sixteen. My cousin applied for a job at McDonald's for his first job and got turned down. So he went back in a full suit and tie and told them that he was very serious and dedicated to obtaining a job. Needless to say, he got hired after that. You need to show people through your actions that you are responsible and capable, and merely filling out an application isn't going to do that. Try to create a full resume to submit with your application and include a cover letter that explains why you would be an ideal candidate as opposed to the rest. Then call the store a few days after submitting your resume and ask if the manager has had a chance to review your application. If he/she has, this will put you to the front of his/her mind. If not, then your application will probably be the next one to be reviewed. The other thing you might want to do is think out of the box. Is there a service that you could provide that might be needed? Dog-walking, tutoring, and other odds and ends jobs can help earn money while building up a resume. It also shows initiative and entrepreneurial drive that employers and colleges will appreciate. And, even though it doesn't pay, you can also put in some volunteer hours at an organization. The job market is all about networking and getting your name out there. Despite your age, this rule still applies.

[Tetraca 0]

As a 16 year old, I am very frustrated with how much I am restrained. Our society has a very negative view on youths because of their stereotypical form. I am not the "stereotypical youth". I consider myself quite, polite, responsible, and mature(judge me by the previous posts I made if you doubt me). With that said, the amount I am able to do with respect is severely limited.
I know society can't give out the same amount of privileges they give to adults to the youth, that is the frustrating part. I know as a whole we should not be given equal respect as adults because their are many of the "stereotypical youths". But what about the rest of us? We just have to sit and wait until we are older before we get the same amount of respect.

This same applies to almost all stereotypes. Why am I posting about this one? Because it applies to me directly and immediately. This does not mean in any way I see this problem higher than any of the other stereotypes, in fact, it is one of the lesser. But it is still very frustrating to me.

What do you guys think about the respect we give the youth? What do you think should change or stay the same?

Sadly, when I went to school all I saw were ignorant and irrisponsible youth who wold rather hang out with friends rather than focus on their future. I still see it now, but it's magnified - the window of sensibility in youth is shrinking with stars as idols. I know only one kid that actually knows what a paradox is. I don't even know one that knows exactly what communism really is - they all think it's Stalinism and China when it isn't. Maybe I'm expecting too much for them to look ahead into the future, but I don't see anything respectable about many youths, so I'm not going to return any respect back to these kids. Parents should, however, be sensible, and give their kid some slack if they're an exception.

[Mermaid711 0]

Oh Emm Gee will, I TOTALLY understand.As most of y'all know, I'm a tennis player, this year, I'm like either number 7, 8, or 9 on the tennis ladder out of the like 80 girls on our team, so I'm big on after school practice. Well, As fall arrives, and days get shorter, I am left with not very much time to practice (Both of my parents are teachers so I have to babysit my little sister untill they get home :XD:) But they won't let me stay out after dark. Because if I do, I get all my privilages yanked out from under me. And I HATE how they think I am capable of absolutely nothing after dark. I am fully capable of protecting myself. And I can't stand how they won't let me do much on a school night... Other than go to the tennis courts...And I hate how they freak out when I make a B in a class. i mean for [[insert your religous firgure here]]'s sake I'm taking ALL Pre AP classes, and I'm only 13. Pluss i'm over loaded in extra-cirricullar activities that I barely have time for a social life. Oh and one more thing- they won't let me have a boyfriend... 'nuff said. They found out about one and i was in soooooo much trouble...