Eye Exercise And Bates Method Resource

[mongkol_14 0]

Did you ever heard about eye exercise or Bates method? This helpful for anyone who spend many times on computer work.

Bates method is the method for improve eyesight naturally. Hear is resouces for Bates method and eye exercise that really help you to relieve strain of your eyes.

http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/
http://www.seeing.org/
http://www.i-see.org/
http://www.iblindness.org/
http://www.eye-exercises-for-good-vision.com/
http://maxmagnusnorman.com/artist_blog/art_day_73.shtml
http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/

And this program may help you to set work time and rest time period for working on computer screen.
http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/

I hope you enjoy this and sorry for my English.

[FLaKes 0]

Really interesting, your english was really good. I am going to try that soon, its sounds good. Do you know of anyone who was tried it and worked for them?

[Yratorm, LightMage 0]

The bates method is ancient history, really. My dad tried it more than ten years ago, and it worsened his sight. Besides, have you read their book? - I have - it claims that sight problems are more imagination than reality, and that you can achieve telescopic sight and see the rings of saturn with the naked eye if you practice their method. I leave people to judge such claims for themselves. A physical distortion of the eyeball is hardly 'imagination'.I thought this was an advertising post, so that's why I didn't reply at first. However, now that flakes has replied to it I should probably put my five cents in.

[mongkol_14 0]

Dear friend.

 

Hear is some success stories that I found on the internet.

 

http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2001/5/30/152110/163

http://www.ranprieur.com/me/eyes.html

http://www.i-see.org/icansee204.html

http://www.i-see.org/archive/history

http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/

 

And hear is another resources of Bates method

 

http://www.answers.com/search?q=bates-method

http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/

http://www.heartlandhealing.com/pages/archive/bates_method/

http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/

 

I highly recommend you to read this book. It was written by Dr.Bates.

http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/

 

This is not an advertising post that I don't like too. I just want anyone to know and understand this method. I do it for relaxing my eyes after work with computer and it help me to relaxing the mind and the eye simultaneously. After I begin learning Bates method. I rerely had bad symptom like headache or eyestrain that I frequently had at the past.

[Yratorm, LightMage 0]

Equally dear friend, Success stories can be real or fake. This method was instrumental in causing damage to my father's eyes. In addition, they also made some rather tall claims in their book about gaining super telescopic vision that could see the rings of Saturn with the naked eye, which I found ridiculous. If you read the book and DIDN'T find these claims ridiculous - well then, I guess you have the faith that moveth the mountains and giveth sight to the blind, indeed.If it works for you, I'm glad, however, my father did try the entire bates method twice, six months apart, and each time, his eyesight actually deteriorated. As such that gives me the creeps, sorry.Also, this method has been around for over ten years (at least) - if it's so superb, how come there are so many people with sight problems around? Surely if it was so utterly successful doctors WOULD be using it to cure 80% of eye problems - doctors may not be the most gullible of folk, but if a method works, they'll definitely be using it - most do want to cure their patients. It is my stated opinion that the Bates method does not work - of course, that's just one man's opinion.

[Saint_Michael 3]

Oh I can vouch easily for that you cannot see planets with the naked eye except for the star like appearance. You need at least high powered binoculars to high powered telescopes to see any planet in our know universe. This is from 5 years of astronomy experience.So yeah I take those methods wit ha grain of salt, also why do that when you got lasers to correct your eyesite for you. Yeah expensive but better odd's to see better.

[me_boxer_dude 0]

Wow it would be so great to have superman like vision just by doing some exercises(too good to be true). On a second thought I would rather go for laser surgery or something if such a need ever arises.

[qu33n.Bee//x 0]

geez, im gonna try that, my eyesight is getting worse =[ stoopid computer screens! lol

[Yratorm, LightMage 0]

Wow it would be so great to have superman like vision just by doing some exercises(too good to be true). On a second thought I would rather go for laser surgery or something if such a need ever arises.

 

Hahahahahhahhaha, me_boxer_dude and I can really think on the same lines sometimes. To my shame, I got to admit that the 'lure' of having superman-like vision was too strong when I was a kid, and I've actually tried the Bates method myself, hehe (I was a kid, you hear me, a kid ) - nope, didn't work, I still have the same ol 'human' vision, arrghhh. Even better than the telescopic would have been heat-vision, hehehehe!!. Yup, the bates method has been around that long, and my dad used to have the book lying around the house.

 

But then when I was a kid I was pretty gullible - I thought I could fly by jumping off a building and flapping my hands real fast ROFL - good thing I didn't try that one

 

 

 

my eyesight is getting worse =[ stoopid computer screens! lol

 

qu33n.Bee//x if your vision's getting worse my first advice (if you can't afford laser surgery) is to go to a doc and get yourself a pair of glasses, it arrests further vision loss.

-- Also, a good diet helps: Carrots, tomatoes, spinach, egg and liver are all good for your eyes.

-- If you can afford laser surgery, go for it, before your eyesight gets too bad for it to be of help.

-- Also, every half an hour/every hour, get up, go to the window, look out of it (switch your eyes to 'ranged vision' periodically) instead of sitting with them in 'close-range' mode for hours on end.

 

Hope some of this is of help. Take care.

Edited January 16, 2007 by Yratorm, LightMage (see edit history)

[hyperwired 0]

I just joined this forum to reply to this.

Firstly, the optometry industry does not support Bate's method because they can't really make money

from it.

 

Imagine this: myopic (near-sighted) guys walks in an optometrist shop, optometrist tells him:

 

"You can pay me a few hundred dollars for glasses which 90% of the time cements your blur (makes it

permanent). And once that happens, it's highly likely that your prescription gets worse over time as

a result of wearing glasses permanently, and you will keep having to come back to pay more money for

higher lenses."

 

Then the optometrist adds:

 

"You can also go and try the bates method. The bates method costs nothing. Except it requires some

effort and understanding on your part. Its got to do with reducing strain and retraining natural

eyesight habits that can often be lost in this modern world which evolved much faster than our eyes

could. Anyhow, there are thousands of people who have done this. Your choice..."

 

Of course the (sane) patients will go for the bate's method. Its the natural way anyway:

 

Glasses: Big, heavy, ugly, cause face strain

Fog up

Light reflections

Dust, Dirt, cleaning

Flatten image (looks smaller for myopes)

Dulls colour (all glass does this)

Need Maintenance

 

Contacts: Oxygen.

Infections (can lead to serious problems)

Protien buildup

Preakage

Eye damage

Need Maintenance

 

LASIK: Possible serious implications (eg blindness)

Some very common implications (halos, starbursts etc)

Irreversible.

New tech, unproven long term results.

 

Plus the bates method can get them back good, natural eyesight along with reduced face, head & neck

strain, which affects a lot of body strain.

 

Now how the f*** is the optometrist supposed to make money? How the hell is he supposed to keep an income? Has his whole time in optometry been a fraud? And has everything he learnt in his degree to everything he has practised in his 'profession' been a lie? ( Ans: It cant be! )

 

This fear is huge (imagine yourself in this position ), and that is why many optometrists simply deny any knowledge of it, or dismiss it as false, or in some cases, laugh at it.

 

Now, first go check out some pics of the eye's anatomy:

eye: http://www.lionsclubs.org/EN/404.php

eye muscles: http://www.perret-optic.ch/

 

Conventional accommodation theory (founded by Hermann Helmholtz) says accommodation (focussing the eye for close distance viewing) is due to the lens of the eye flexing. This is the theory followed by the Optometry industry. Bates found that people that had their lens removed from their eyes could

still accommodate. Accordng to Helmholtz laws, this isnt possible. Secondly he discovered that the

part of the eye that did accomodation was actually a pair of exterior muscles called the obliques.

And that when they flexed, they changed the shape of the eye (made it longer by 'squashing' the eye)

which was best for close vision.

 

Short-sighted people's external obliques are in a state of chronic strain. ie they are always

flexing, so the eyeball is squashed and kept longer the WHOLE time, not just when needed for close

vision. The person doesnt notice (it's a subconscious process anyway), and the visual system has

forgotten how to relax for distant vision where it doesn't need to accommodate.

 

The genius of the bates method is in using methods for relaxing this strain and relearning good

vision habits. These methods aren't 'exercises', they are vision habits which must initially be

enforced/remembered consciously until they eventually sink into the subconscious visual system and

restore natural vision.

 

Again, it is not just a set of exercises, and this is where many people go wrong. Think of those programs that teach you to touch type with those typing exercises that slowly progress. Instead of focusing on just the scope of the exercise ("type: asd fse asfe sasasa def sae sde"), which is meaningless, you should actually be focussing on what techniques and habits the exercise is trying to teach and remembering and internalising the typing habits until it becomes natural and you dont even have to think about it. Once you finally learn touchtyping, every time you type from then on in normal situations, you are practising, but you dont think of it as an 'exercise' because you dont need to. The same applies with vision improvement with the bates method.

 

Think of this as restoring the original firmware (subconscious instructions) to your visual circuitry

(your visual system) after it has been flashed with buggy firmware at a time when the computer (you) was

unstable.

 

 

Bates method consists of a few main concepts:

 

Movement: natural movement in the eyes AND the body.

Centralisation: focussing on one small central area rather than diffusing on a large area

Relaxation: seeing in the relased state

 

Each consists of a few habits:

 

Removing glasses / contact lenses

 

Movement: shifting

swaying

swinging

oppositional movement

blinking

body posture

 

Centralisation: non-Staring

mental focus/active intent

non-diffusing

 

Relaxation: sunning

palming

breathing

 

This is only a brief overview, and doesnt cover everything.

 

These things are not obvious at first, why should they be? since they are meant to be subconscious!

Once you learn them, practise a bit, and form good habits, it will start internalising. In fact, if

you practise these concepts for the first time, you will start to notice a difference straight away.

 

Some people try this and it doesnt work for them, that is because they are doing it wrong because

they dont really understand what is going on. And that they are TRYING. trying hard creates more

strain. You kind of have to just allow yourself to see differently. TRYING REALLY HARD will just

create STRAIN, which is the opposite of what you want.

 

Notice how I didnt actually tell you what each of the methods are and how to do them? Its because

these concepts and methods seem very very simple and basic if given a brief description of what to

do. Im not saying they are hard, but they can be often misenterpreted.

 

What you really want, and what I really want for you, is to really understand what is going on,

and all the subtleties of each concept that nature already designed for our vision. If you want to do this right and do it well, instead of reading up on the net about it, and going to various websites with brief descriptions and try to learn it all in one day, is to go and buy yourself a book or two about the subject.

 

I personally recommend These two books:

 

Better Eyesight Without Glasses by William Bates (you can find free legal ebook versions on the net,

This one is a bit old and full of recounts and old theory instead of techniques, but at least you get to see where it all started)

 

Relearning to See by Thomas Quackenbush (you MUST get this. based on bates method, and is VERY usefull and successfull. The quality, ease, and depth of this book is outstanding).

 

Good luck, and spread the knowledge after you have realised this works. - HyperWireD

[Yratorm, LightMage 0]

So let's see - what's been said here, basically, is that there was no improvement in sight because I lacked understanding.

 

That if only I had 'the understanding' I would be able to see the rings of saturn with the naked eye??? You forget, I read the book, and it's partly BECAUSE of outlandish claims like that that I think it's fake.

 

As for your statement on lacking understanding - it's fascinating. This to a person who was understanding books on astronomy at the age of six; who maxes most I.Q. tests, and has mastered the intense meditations and complex physical techniques of seven martial arts.

 

I'm willing to look at the Bates method again, but if at a younger age I recognized it to be fake... what I think is that the Bates method WAS A WAY TO MAKE MONEY - for Bates and his original publisher. It's that simple.

 

 

Still, since you put all that effort into that post, I'm willing to take another look - definitely. However, if I still find it fake, I'll be spreading the word with all my might, alright - that's it's fake!!

[hippiman 0]

No offense, but the IQ tests aren't really a good way to measure understanding. It's just a big test about what you already know, and being able to figure out patterns and analogies. I'm not saying you don't have understanding, because your other statements really need understanding to accomplish them. But from the IQ tests I've taken, it doesn't seem like they're trying to measure your understanding.But for me, glasses will work just fine.(I'm lazy) All I have to do is put them on in the morning, wipe them off when I can't see, and take them off at night. I don't think that's too much.

[FLaKes 0]

I dont know if this works or not, you didnt even mention it worked for you and neither has any other user in this forum. I didnt have the time to try this out but now that I have read that you can see the rings around saturn with this method I am thinking it is fake, way to exaggerated. Sure it sounds awesome for us people that have eyesight problems, but I think I will rather stick to contact lenses, I dont know if they are worse than the surgery because I was told by the optometrist that people who get the surgery end up with dry eyes and they have to visit the eye surgeon about every 4 years to get your vision readjusted because you keep on loosing eyesight, and you wont see as sharp with the surgery as you can see with the glasses or contact lenses.... I think I will just wait for technology to keep on advancing and see if there is something better in the future. Contacts are fine for now, although a bit expensive.

[Smack 0]

So my eye problem is in my imagination? That is funny the doctor has always been telling me its because my eye isn't the right shape! Damn that doctor! I'm suing because he is the one that caused my eyesight to be blurry!

 

Seriously who could ever believe that? Besides there is no way we could ever see the rings of Saturn! Of course I believe there is at least some truth to these things because relieving strain on your eyes will eventually have a positive effect on your eyesight. It's known that having bad eyes and going on without correct will put strain on your eyes that will make them worse. So, consequently putting less strain on your eyes will at best make them better but will most likely only allow them not to become worse. So it would be a good thing to practice but I would never expect a result like being able to see the rings with only my eyes.

 

But speaking of that isn't there an astronomical event that will allow everyone to see those rings of Saturn?

 

Earlier this month I heard a report on television, maybe CNN, that said that video games can actually improve your eyesight. But of course too much of a good thing is, consequently, a bad thing!

[ZaM0 0]

I have read some Norbekov books, and the exercises are somehow effective, I think. Well, I have made some of his exercises and I think that eye fatigue falls In his book it is explained, that if you have the required concentration and patience, you could loose the glasses. Well I don't have glasses and I have read this book, couse my friend gave it as a present to me...I'm really excited to read some opinions about these exercises, so please, share the effect of them