Mission Accomplished! Now Leave! all fake reasons for being there are no longer valid

[adriantc 0]

As for the side-effects of us leaving... I believe that adriantc is missing the big picture. I think that it is much worse for us to look like Nazis than for us to look weak. Who really cares if we look a little bit weak. Anybody else see it this way? We are taking plays directly out of Goebel's playbook from the 1938 run up to WWII. "This is a war that was forced upon us", "This is brought on by the actions of the jews in Poland". Basically, if a leader calls a potential enemy enough names and makes up enough *BLEEP*, then the people will follow - especially if they believe that their life was threatened by this enemy.... (that is what the terror alert level chart was for).

Well I don't think I'm missing the big picture. I'm not an american so I can't understand how they really feel, but the USA today has nothing to do with the nazi. Yeah everyone sais that USA is the biggest democracy, but the in truth USA has also the most easy to control people, a bomb and some victims somewhere and they will vote for anyone that promises them revenge. So the big democracy may just be smoke and mirrors. Yeah the actions of Bush may resemble Hitler's, but we should not forget that (for the time beeing) USA rules the world... it may be cruel what I say but somehow they have the power (and thus the right) to do what they like. There is no one to stop them. It is the plain truth... It is the rule of the strongest...

[BooZker 0]

I've read somewhere in last weeks newspaper that the USA are considering to lower the american presence in Iraq with more then 70%. If you ask me that is at least far-fetched since withdrawing from Iraq before peace is restored would make USA look weak to the rest of the world. It would be Vietnam all over again...

Too late. I know lots of people who call it the 2nd Vietnam war. I have no idea, but hasnt there been more protest for this war world wide then the vietnam war? I'm pretty sure. That's kinda sad actually.

Kioku, fellow human, I really have to disagree with you

haha i have to respond to this cause how you phrased it was pretty damn funny. You seem so warn out about how we liberals make so much more sence then that ummm "not so nice" president. You know i am really tired of this. You know it feels so hopeless. People tried to impeach Bill Clinton for something that had nothing to do with the goverment while George W. Bush is litteraly the most worldwide protested human EVER. More then Hitler, well because he would kill them, but still. Wait did i just compare him with Hitler. Yep.

Hey and we are going to try to invade Iran. Isn't the saying go 3's a charm. All i'm going to say is that America has pissed off A LOT of people and if we keep this up for another 2 years until the next election i truly don't think America will put up with this *BLEEP*. I think once the Americans who support the war see all the damage it has done to the USA they were demand something different. Let's be relaistic here also a war on "terror" Why dont we all have a war on jealousy as one man said. It's the same thing. It will NEVER end. Don't you morons see that at all. It will NEVER end. Please inform all of us liberal "whiners" how we will just one day be like, oh, hey, look no more terroist! Yay! Please tell me.

And to respond to someones thing about gas, the gas companies are a private company. They can set the prices to whatever they want to some extent. This is the same way with lets say pop. They could make it $4 for one can of pop. There is no stopping them. It is their product. The goverment supposedly made sure that they were not jackin up the prices, but of course in our capitalisitc goverment, they found no proof they were ripping us off. Imagin that.

[unicornrose 0]

You my friend have obviously not talked to one iraqi civilian. I've been there and i am headed on my second tour of duty. I've been thanked by countless of iraqi civilians for what we are doing there. They want freedom. The ones who dont are the ones who were being treated very well by Sadam. I think you hear only what you want to hear and make judgments that aren't based on fact. Until you talk to more then your neighbor to find out how they feel please dont say. Talk to someone who had his family murdered by Sadam. Talk to more then one Iraqi civilian still living in the country today. And thy will tell you they are not ready for us to leave. We are no where near ready to bring our troops home. If we were to pull out now the Iranian special forces that are there blowing up car bombs and killing women, children and other civilians by the hundreds will help overthrow the new regime and we will be back to square one.
Where was your comments when they pulled off the ARAB children from the bus and seperated them from suni and shite and killed one tribe but let the other live. It seems that your ok with that? Countless innocent people are murdered by Zarqawi 95% Arabs and you dont seem to care.

To answer your questions:

1. WMD - faulty intel, probably moved before the war
2. Did we get rid of Sadam - He is in an iraqi prison correct??? So yes.
3. Did we spread democracy - They are free now...doing things they couldn't do with Sadam.
4. Yes we killed the cowards at the start

You left this one out.

5. Is the country in a safe enough state for us to just up and leave? No. Iran is butting in with their special forces. How do i know? I killed 2 of them. One as he was using a 5 year old girl as a shield. Real brave guy. But thats ok by you.

i'm willing to bet that Bush and the US has killed less Arabs then Arabs have killed eachother. no i'm not a republican either. I'm an independent.

If we left things in your hands nothing would have been done about 9-11. If you ask me we need to move to Africa next and help the people there that are being murdered by the thousands daily for being in a different tribe.

Bush will never be impeached. Because sane people know that what was done needed to be done. I dont care if it was under the 9-11 umbrella it still needed to be done. The news (who hate bush) dont care about the fact that arabs are killing arabs. They dont go on and on about how children were pulled off a school bus and murdered. They dont go on and on about zarqawi killing arabs....because it doesnt work for their agenda. Get some knowledge about a subject before speaking on it.

i want to thank you for posting. It really angers me when people who are ill informed as to what is really going on there say we need to bring the troops home. There are obviously a few soldiers that are not going to like being there to help. But a vast majority that I have talked to or seen are with Bush completely and understand why they are there. It really saddens me that so many people are not supportive of what has to be done there. Unfortunately I think it would take more than a few planes falling into a few buildings before the large amount of people who don't think we should be there will be convinced that we are at war. I am proud of all the soldiers and glad thaat they are fighting for me. My heart goes to all the families that have soldiers there and who have lost their loved ones. My heart goes to all the children and wives as well. May God Bless you all and may you bring freedom where it should be needed most.

[Brian Gillingham 0]

i want to thank you for posting. It really angers me when people who are ill informed as to what is really going on there say we need to bring the troops home. There are obviously a few soldiers that are not going to like being there to help. But a vast majority that I have talked to or seen are with Bush completely and understand why they are there. It really saddens me that so many people are not supportive of what has to be done there. Unfortunately I think it would take more than a few planes falling into a few buildings before the large amount of people who don't think we should be there will be convinced that we are at war. I am proud of all the soldiers and glad thaat they are fighting for me. My heart goes to all the families that have soldiers there and who have lost their loved ones. My heart goes to all the children and wives as well. May God Bless you all and may you bring freedom where it should be needed most.

 

It is blind patriotism just like this that is the result of endless propaganda - since even before 9-11, that keeps us at the end of terrorists' sights. IF we were a more peaceful country (that means - minding our own business), THEN these things wouldn't happen. As long as we are making things worse in Iraq (I remind you about the degradation in infrastructure that is our fault, and the recent news about criminal behavior of American troops in Iraq), more Arabs would like to see our buildings being hit by planes. How is it that this bit of logic always seems to escape the minds of people like you.

 

What really saddens me is that we are basically gutting a country for what - WMD? What I am saying is that the declared mission is over - so leave! I frankly don't care that the state we'd leave Iraq in would be worse than it was when we got there - it will continue to get worse as times passes. That's the trend that you just ignore.... is it really getting better?

 

The soldiers that are completely on Bush's side - as you say, many of them are not educated as I have been. They are being paid large sums of money (my taxes, mind you) to kill arabs (oops... protect america). Many of them are very young and impressionable - that's all I should have to say. The mission that they are on is one that they don't fully understand. Get real. How is it that somebody over there could be objective about this mission -- of course they want to shoot the arabs! The probably have seen fellow Americans die at the hands of these "resistance fighters", even I may want to get revenge if I saw that. My point is that you can't objectively use their opinions at all -- you need wise intrepretation of all of the events, not just what Pvt. Joe Scmoe thinks.

 

When any educated person analyzes the whole of the situation, they come to the same conclusion - and that conclusion is not that the Iraq war is a good thing for the world... The war is wrong.

 

That brings me to another point I have been wanting to interject. This is not a WAR. This is more like a crack-down. Think about it - you only have wars between two countries.... here, it's the USA vs. Terrorism. Terrorism is simply a tactic or one way to fight. The "terrorists" are not from any single country - they are from all over the world. Now, even though you may be able to say that 95% of these trouble makers may be from the middle-east countries, you can not justify a war on that soil. So what if the leadership of that country did not do everything in their power to prevent these underground groups from banding together.

 

When could a war like this be over? Seriously ponder this question and let me know if there is an answer that doesn't involve killing all who may be sympathetic to the cause (don't get any ideas, I am not sympathetic to their cause as much as I am opposed to our course).

 

I hate the Republican squelch box - "the democrats want to cut and run". Well, our last "next president" John Kerry said it best - that Bush's plan to stay the course is a "Lie and die" plan. They lied (that's a fact - and you know it, why are you not outraged? is it comforting to know that we are killing under false pretenses?) and now they're (young Americans, Iraqis, including some genuine terrorists, etc.) dying.

 

As Kwai Chang Caine said best, "There is always another way".

 

May God Bless you all and may you bring freedom where it should be needed most.

 

I was done with my post - when I caught the last line again... religious blessings on killers? My freaking god! How hypocritical to bless killers in this manner.

 

Aha! This is really a holy war? Beth implies this with her salutation.... That is why this athiest doesn't care. You sheep really are great! Our book states that God said ...... while they have this other book that states that God said ....

 

Get real.... God is laughing his **bottom** off at you. You think that God would want to bless OUR soldiers???? The soldiers from the most-gluttenous country since the great Roman empire fell? God probably really doesn't want America to win if you think about it...

 

Bring freedom!? Ha! Ha hahaha... hahahaha.... that is the single dumbest thing that I have heard. We are not taking freedom anywhere - except for the freedom that they are taking from American citizens --- I have no idea where that freedom goes, but you could say that it was taken from us - brought to Iraq? I don't think so. We have temporarily imprisoned major percentages of the male population in Iraq at one time or another - because they are FREE?

 

I am truly sorry about pissing on your cheerios.

Edited July 3, 2006 by Brian Gillingham (see edit history)

[kasm 0]

So, we killed Al-Zarqawi in an air-strike late last night. He was the leader of what we called "Al-Qaeda" in Iraq. This was the dude that beheaded Nick Berg a couple years ago... he was a man of terror.

 

Bush said "this violent man will never murder again". I really hope that he was talking about himself. Aren't we done killing arab people? Bush also said "the fighting and killing will continue" (paraphrased), meaning that we're not done in Iraq.

 

Did we find the WMD yet?

Did we get rid of Saddam?

Did we spread democracy?

Did we get Saddam's sons?

...what other fake reasons did we have?

 

I think that we're done! Yay! We can start bring our troops back home!

US War in Iraq will not finish for ages. People who said it is call it the 2nd Vietnam war they don't mean the atmosphere, the enemies or the geography. They mean that it will be wrong to continue but it is hard to withdraw. I am really sorry for each American solider killed there. No justified reason for that. Liberation of Iraq or spreading democracy in Iraq is not enough to loose teenager lives. Why then American didn't invade the Soviet Union instead of the cold war?. Why they don't go to China where the West are alleging violating of human right. Why not go to India to give people the right in Toilets?. Why they were silent when the dectator of Pakistan seizedl the authority from a domecratic elected governement. Why they were silent for the Chilian Dectator?. Why they left Kastro of Cuba for 50 years?

 

Shite and Kurds were welcome US because they will help them achieve their objective . A Shite government in Iraq now is like what in Iran and separate Kurdish country to the Kurd. But they will conflict with US latter. The invasion borough the terrorism there.

 

Al Qaeda is against Saddam Regime because the regime declare socialism its objective and because it was secular. Saddam regime had nothing to do with 9/11. But now the US Occupation brought the terrorist there. So USA will not leave for ages.

 

Moreover they produced government will be like that in Iran. .

 

The mistakes that accomplish US in Iraq are:

 

1. Invading Iraqi for wrong reason. that is the WMD. They didn't listen to the inspector reports. Once they don't find any they have to leave the country and the system as was.We speak about WMD in the time of invasion not about WMD programs in any time. Nobody denies that there were programs for developing them before UN Resolution that put the restriction on arms and flies zones etc... You are not there to punish them on things may be happened during the fight against Iran and Kurds because they acting as if they with Iran towards their dream of independent country as they now with US. So please don't confuse the matter.

 

2. Believing what Iraqis opposition said about Iraq. They who was living in mass numbers in US and UK. wrong information gathered from hate-red opposition Iraqis in US and UK.

 

3. Continuing the occupation even after WMD were not found. In life if Police went and search a house for drug as example and if they couldn't find any then they will not charge for finding another reason. If they charged some people and court acquitted them. They will release them and may pay compensation. It wasn't the object to change the system. Saddam is better in human right, women right, minority right than the regimes in Jordan, Saudi, Kuwait , Pakistan and many other countries....In Saudi Arabia, women has no right to drive beside all the other rights. No one church there even for people who are working there. Other Islamic branch has no right as Wahhabi's in Saudi Arabia. But in Saddam regime were Christian, women, Kurds, Shiite in the government.

 

4. Continuing jailing the old regime members even after WMD were found. I don't know why the Scientists [among of them women] that alleged helping the regime in the WMD are in prisons till now.

 

5. Repeating wrongly that Shite is majority in Iraq. In Iraq there are Arabs and Kurds. Kurd are Sunnis. The Arab and Kurd Sunnis are the majority. That why for the third time after Saddam the president is Sunni or Kurd.

 

6.. Canceling the Bath Party was wrong making the democracy to the minority (who were no members in that party or were in exile. Al Quida against the Bath party since Baath has word social in his name and is secular movement.

 

7. Canceling the Iraqi Army was big mistake .It has bad effect of control borders , driving the army personnel to involve in the Resistance. They who knows how to take the arms from the street and use it in Resistance. They who knows how to use it effectively. It is hard to develop new army from scratch

 

8. Criticizing Syria that allow terrorist coming from its border. It is up to the enter ant Countries to defend their border. Syria and Al Qaeda at odd. You in USA can not close your border with Mexico and illegal immigrant about 20 millions. My analysis show that they are entering from Saudi Arabia where there are long border and El Qaueda are strong and still active in this Kingdom. But no words about Saudi Arabia. Moreover they closed eyes for people that were coming from Iran (officially or illegally). Do you know that the Sistani who is the spiritual leader to them has no Iraqis citizenship and doesn't apply to become Iraqi.

 

9. Criticizing Saddam about Kurd? But what Turkey is doing with Kurds is ok. Help Kurd to make their state in Iraq even in the time od the sanction against Iraq between the first and second Iraq war. You against any territories to this state from Kurdish place in Turkey just because it is your Allies and you don't want upset them a little.

 

10. Trail Sadam for killing 150 shiti after assesenation attempt for the head of state. Every day in average 60 Iraqis are killed.

 

11. Critising Sadam for abuse and they do more than him.

[Albus Dumbledore 0]

i think the war in iraq is good.if it is a matter of the dieing solders, umm.. if you didn't want to go to war, then dont join the army or navy or marines, because obviously that is what they want to do is join them, and go to war....obviously the people fighting this war right now, do not want to stop because if they wanted to, they could quite the military and stay home and not get shiped out the next time or ever again, but they keep going back, they keep going back and fighting. so i say, if they want to keep going back and fighting, let them fight for america and make sure the rest of the god damned terrorists in the world know if you screw with america you will pay immensley!!this war is not just about OIl, it may be a key part in it but it is not entirley about OIL, it is about showing the world that if anyone decided they want to screw with the US that the people who screwed with the US will pay for their actions. kind of like us almost going into to war with korea agian... i think its going to happen soon because they are deciding to screw with us again, and we're not going to lie down and take it like that :Dthis is somthing that i always talk about with my "sis" because she has a brother in the military, and is proud to have him there and wants to go out and join when she gets old enough.anywho, i think the war in iraq is an excelent ideal and we should keep fighting, when i get out of highschool i think i will serve 2 or three years, then come home and do college.

[kasm 0]

i think the war in iraq is good.

 

if it is a matter of the dieing solders, umm.. if you didn't want to go to war, then dont join the army or navy or marines, because obviously that is what they want to do is join them, and go to war....

 

obviously the people fighting this war right now, do not want to stop because if they wanted to, they could quite the military and stay home and not get shiped out the next time or ever again, but they keep going back, they keep going back and fighting. so i say, if they want to keep going back and fighting, let them fight for america and make sure the rest of the god damned terrorists in the world know if you screw with america you will pay immensley!!

 

this war is not just about OIl, it may be a key part in it but it is not entirley about OIL, it is about showing the world that if anyone decided they want to screw with the US that the people who screwed with the US will pay for their actions. kind of like us almost going into to war with korea agian... i think its going to happen soon because they are deciding to screw with us again, and we're not going to lie down and take it like that

 

this is somthing that i always talk about with my "sis" because she has a brother in the military, and is proud to have him there and wants to go out and join when she gets old enough.

 

anywho, i think the war in iraq is an excelent ideal and we should keep fighting, when i get out of highschool i think i will serve 2 or three years, then come home and do college.

 

 

This is to 'Albus Dumbledore' and who think about war as him but we need other people say in this matter.

 

1- You are less than 16 years and you only started the real life. Imagine those 19-21 years old who were killed in vain.

 

2- The military is not game. If you started it, you can not say I quit . Your commander has the right to kill u instantly if you do that during a battle. Military action is not democratic decision.

 

3- You use the word screw without necessity and you are confused about who was screw who. The matter is not about the power, weopons and technology. Even they are good in war but sometimes they fail to scratch the enemies. The topic is how US stop this wrong war . They want stop and withdraw but it can not. That was similar to what happened in Vietnam where your enemies won [by your words they screw the Americans]. The same happened where north Korea did 60 years ago. It happened too in Lebanon 20 years ago and Somalia.

 

4- You suggested that you and other youth to go first to the war and after return to college. Nothing will guarntee that you or they will return alive to go to colleges. Many people who are returned from the first Iraq war are still suffering from sociological disorders. Search about that. SEE on hour news program for John Leherer or CNN and see the photos for the fallen soliders. I am suffering for them and their families.

 

5- The topic is not "Is the war good or bad?". Normal person consider it bad. The war is not Harry Potter story. It is terrible things either you kill or be killed.

 

6. By the way the world become dangerous than before that called war on terrors. I have travelled the world and know how it was safe 20-30 years ago. I can not do that now.

 

7- So please revise your ideas about War it is not a game or venture.

[Albus Dumbledore 0]

1- You are less than 16 years and you only started the real life. Imagine those 19-21 years old who were killed in vain.

Age is just a number, it has nothing to once so ever with my real life, it has nothing to do with how my thinking changes. I can garentee you, if i were alloud to right now i would go over to iraq and fight right now. but im not old enough, so oh-well i have to wait until i get out of high school.

2- The military is not game. If you started it, you can not say I quit . Your commander has the right to kill u instantly if you do that during a battle. Military action is not democratic decision.

They might be able to do that in the field, but im not talking about the field, im talking about when you come back home, and they call you to be shipped out again you say no and they cant force you to go.

4- You suggested that you and other youth to go first to the war and after return to college. Nothing will guarntee that you or they will return alive to go to colleges. Many people who are returned from the first Iraq war are still suffering from sociological disorders. Search about that. SEE on hour news program for John Leherer or CNN and see the photos for the fallen soliders. I am suffering for them and their families.

ok, let me rephrase that then for you. IF we were to make it back from the war, then we would go to college, and if we didn't or if one did and the other didn't then we/one of us would know that we died fighting for america protecting that in which we love. My grandpa was in vietnam war, and he came back live, with no mental problems at all. go figure (yes i am sure you will say but you and him are different people. and its true, but i am just saying, he did it, and so has three of my uncles, so im willing to take the chance.)

5- The topic is not "Is the war good or bad?". Normal person consider it bad. The war is not Harry Potter story. It is terrible things either you kill or be killed.

I ABSOLOUTLY HATE IT when people take my display name into concideration of what i think about real life situations. just because i am a kid at heart, and like harry potter, and a few cartoon shows does not mean that i think about real live situtions like a freaking 10 year old pretending to say spells while holding a wooden stick that they found on the ground. Normal PEOPLE may concider it bad, and they may concider it good, but allot think it is good.

6. By the way the world become dangerous than before that called war on terrors. I have travelled the world and know how it was safe 20-30 years ago. I can not do that now.

isn't that a lie, my grandpa has traveled the world since his retirement over 10 years ago, and nothing bad has ever happened to him and he traveled the world feeling safe, just because you cant feel safe doesn't mean the whole world doesn't

7- So please revise your ideas about War it is not a game or venture.

i do not thin it is a game or a venture, i think it is apart of being a civilized world. In order to have peace, there must be conflict. and in this case the conflict is war, and in the end, one way or another it will come out to be peace. I do not think this is a game, i think it is somthing that must happen.

just because i am 15 years old does not mean a god blessed thing! My age, does not effect the way that i think about things, and in this case my age does not effect the way that i think about this war in iraq. therfore i will not revise my ideas about war because it is a perfectly natural thing and somthing that should happen. if people did not expect to go to war, then they should not have joined the military. easy as that. and if they dont like it, they can quit it when they get brought back home, and yet they keep going out over, and over, and over and over again.

[kasm 0]

Age is just a number, it has nothing to once so ever with my real life, it has nothing to do with how my thinking changes.

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I can garentee you, if i were alloud to right now i would go over to iraq and fight right now. but im not old enough, so oh-well i have to wait until i get out of high school.

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My grandpa was in vietnam war, and he came back live, with no mental problems at all. go figure (yes i am sure you will say but you and him are different people. and its true, but i am just saying, he did it, and so has three of my uncles, so im willing to take the chance.)

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I ABSOLOUTLY HATE IT when people take my display name into concideration of what i think about real life situations. ...

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just because i am 15 years old does not mean a god blessed thing! My age, does not effect the way that i think about things,...

 

Albus Dumbledore, I didn't mean any insult to u when I have mentioned your age. I was 15 one day in last year of high school learning 3 languages, Newton mechancis, electricity and evolution theory. I was in the university when I was 16 and studying very complecated mathematical theories including relativty theory, nuclear and quantum. All what I said is trhat you are still growing in your body , mind, spirit, attitude and opinion.

 

Your body is still growing and research shows that mind also is growing till 18 of age . Many Scientists and Philosphers [e.g Russel] have changed their opinions by the time. We all are learning from the personal experience and problem we have faced.

 

Age is not only a number. Do you debate why driving licence is after 16 of Age, election right after 18 of age, contract be avoid if one is less than the mature age , sex consents depends on age, marrige allowed for certain ages, military service is after 18 years of age, etc...

 

You by yourself said that you wait the time when "they allow you to join the military. My wishes to you and rember me and I rember you if I will be alive in that time.

 

You alleged that the world is safer now and ignore all the news and restrictions and events in hotels and resorts and levels of warnings. You grandma is lucky one that not mean there are thousands have gone and persons can not take a bottle of water with him. If you fellow the current affair or you asked you will find how much the tourism were affected and how flight companies complain. Then the matter have not be taken by few examples near you.

 

Your grandpa back of Vietnam war and is healthy [you can't discover what in his side and mind] does not mean that thousands haven't return and thousands return with siciological problems. And for what reason?. This is not for protecting America.

[Kioku 0]

I don't see why all of this political polarization is necessary. George W. Bush might not have a clue of what's going on, but he's certainly not the worst president. Just because I don't support everything the President does, it doesn't make me a whiney hippy Fereinheit 9/11 fellating liberal. Just because I support bombing the *BLEEP* out of Saddam and toppling him doesn't mean I'm a holy rolling right wing conservative. I'm using common sense instead of blindly allowing a political party make opinions for me. My opinion?"Terrorism" is a problem. Yeah, yeah. Did Iraq have anything to do with 9/11? No. Was Saddam paying people to walk into Israel and blow themselves up? Yeah. Did Saddam have WMDs? Yeah, but old ones from the Iran War. Most of the others he had are most likely in Syria. Case in point; Saddam was a problem. We had to get rid of him. I'm behind our troops.Is blowing yourself up smart? *BLEEP* no. Anyone with common sense can gather up that's ending your ability to percieve reality. Your life ends. Nice going, dipshit. What did you prove? Nothing? Alright. That's right. You're dead, I'm not. America wins, *BLEEP*. Blow yourselves up more. In fact, I encourage it. Perhaps if all of the extremists did it at once, the world would be a nicer place. That includes you far-right and far-left people, along with Al Queada. Hop to it if it sounds like that good of an idea. War kicks **bottom**. It helps our economy. When the war machines get rolling, the dollar bills go along with it. If I had to worry about everyone who died, I'd be a real pansy. That's how I view things, at least. If you don't like my opinions, too bad.

[Brian Gillingham 0]

I don't see why all of this political polarization is necessary. George W. Bush might not have a clue of what's going on, but he's certainly not the worst president. Just because I don't support everything the President does, it doesn't make me a whiney hippy Fereinheit 9/11 fellating liberal. Just because I support bombing the *BLEEP* out of Saddam and toppling him doesn't mean I'm a holy rolling right wing conservative. I'm using common sense instead of blindly allowing a political party make opinions for me. My opinion?

"Terrorism" is a problem. Yeah, yeah. Did Iraq have anything to do with 9/11? No. Was Saddam paying people to walk into Israel and blow themselves up? Yeah. Did Saddam have WMDs? Yeah, but old ones from the Iran War. Most of the others he had are most likely in Syria. Case in point; Saddam was a problem. We had to get rid of him. I'm behind our troops.

Is blowing yourself up smart? *BLEEP* no. Anyone with common sense can gather up that's ending your ability to percieve reality. Your life ends. Nice going, dipshit. What did you prove? Nothing? Alright. That's right. You're dead, I'm not. America wins, *BLEEP*. Blow yourselves up more. In fact, I encourage it. Perhaps if all of the extremists did it at once, the world would be a nicer place. That includes you far-right and far-left people, along with Al Queada. Hop to it if it sounds like that good of an idea. War kicks **bottom**. It helps our economy. When the war machines get rolling, the dollar bills go along with it. If I had to worry about everyone who died, I'd be a real pansy. That's how I view things, at least. If you don't like my opinions, too bad.

 

It is an educated guess of mine that you are NOT of japanese descent. If you were, I really don't think that you would support bombing anybody like you do. I believe that you are whining (you spelled it incorrectly also). You cry because you learn that a majority of people believe that the war in Iraq is bad.... it is just terribly sad that the majority wasn't before we attacked!

 

War is bad. It is not a game that people play to decide whose belief is correct. It determines who is left - not who is right! I don't care how you try to justify war. Certainly, boosting the economy doesn't justify killing. Also, according to the Bible, killing is a sin, eh. On top of that - you don't even mention the future effect of fighting this unjust war. You certainly heard the argument that this war is creating new terrorists (that hate America). I am guessing that you are an idiot - about 22 years old, and you're still a virgin.

 

You should try to focus on peace. Peace makes economies stronger in a real way. War causes the economy to produce useless weapons.

[kasm 0]

.... I'm using common sense instead of blindly allowing a political party make opinions for me. My opinion?

.Let we analysis your to see how you are using commonsense. But before I start, I stress that my opinion doesn't mean I support Terrorism nor I like Saddam. I am Christian Copts not Muslim Arab.

 

1. You said:

My opinion?"Terrorism" is a problem. Yeah, yeah. Did Iraq have anything to do with 9/11? No. ?

In fact the war on terror has created more terrorism. Iraq and Al-Qaueda were at odd. Now the terrorism were recruited and came to Iraq by hundreds. Don't say that Al-Zarquwi was living in Iraq in Saddam's time. Living in country or passing or transit THROUGH COUNTRY Doesn't mean terrorism welcomed in that Country. Take example who did 11/9 events were lived and trained in US. Is this your first commonsense?

 

2. You said::

Was Saddam paying people to walk into Israel and blow themselves up?

What is the prove for that? This is the same as the claim of WMD. Even if it is true, why you are responsible to act on behalf of Israel?

 

3. You said::

Yeah. Did Saddam have WMDs? Yeah, but old ones from the Iran War. Most of the others he had are most likely in Syria. Case in point;

What you want to say about Iranian war? Do you know that America and West were blessing that war and providing the weapons to it?

 

The commonsense said that Saddam and Syria were at odd. So it can not transfer these WMD without prevailing that move. The matter can not determined by thought or :Likely". If CIA and other official haven't claimed that because will be another unproven facts.

 

4. You said::

Saddam was a problem. We had to get rid of him. ..

There are international rules to not get rid from a regime just because you have problem with it. Why US didn't acted against Castro of Cuba for 50 years ?. Why US didn't Git red of Stallin, Khorochov or Breginev of Soviet Union. Why they didn't get rid of Mao of China and North Korea Regime?. Are you happy with Saudi rulers where no right of another religion but their branch of Islam and women can not licensed to drive.

 

5. You said:

...Is blowing yourself up smart? *BLEEP* no. Anyone with common sense can gather up that's ending your ability to percieve reality. Your life ends. Nice going, dipshit. What did you prove? Nothing? Alright. That's right. You're dead, I'm not. America wins, *BLEEP*. Blow yourselves up more.

You speak about commonsense and forget that those who blow themselves is not killing themselves only but killing hiundred other. Who blow the planes in the Trade center have killed thousand of lives. In Iraq these blows are killing Iraqis and US and British and other soldiers.

 

6. You said about terrorists acts: :

..In fact, I encourage it. Perhaps if all of the extremists did it at once, the world would be a nicer place. That includes you far-right and far-left people, along with Al Queada. Hop to it if it sounds like that good of an idea.

The commonsense doesn't do with "Hope" and dream and "perhaps". extremists will not end with your "hope", dream and "perhaps"

 

7. You said about war: :

..War kicks **bottom**. It helps our economy. When the war machines get rolling, the dollar bills go along with it. If I had to worry about everyone who died, I'd be a real pansy. That's how I view things, at least.

Is that"what you view things " is your sixth commonsense" You want people are dying that historian said that was to help economy.. The commonsense says that you are loosing materials, resources for unproven hypothetical economic benefit.

 

8. You impose your opinion in::

..If you don't like my opinions, too bad.

Is this also commonsense that anybody have to agree with your view.

[Kioku 0]

why you are responsible to act on behalf of Israel?

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war on terror

Quote tags are fun, alright. I can arrange quotes, so you're answering your own questions. Thanks.

 

There are international rules to not get rid from a regime just because you have problem with it. Why US didn't acted against Castro of Cuba for 50 years ?. Why US didn't Git red of Stallin, Khorochov or Breginev of Soviet Union. Why they didn't get rid of Mao of China and North Korea Regime?.

You don't know what Nuclear weapons are? Man.

 

Is that"what you view things " is your sixth commonsense" You want people are dying that historian said that was to help economy.. The commonsense says that you are loosing materials, resources for unproven hypothetical economic benefit.

Alex Trebek: I was what solved the "Great Depression".

 

Me: What is "World war II"?

 

Alex Trebek: Correct. That is our Daily Double.

 

Certainly, boosting the economy doesn't justify killing.

Certainly not if you're a pansy. We're defending our country and boosting our economy.

 

Also, according to the Bible, killing is a sin, eh.

NOT THE RELIGION CARD. OH MAN, I JUST GOT SERVED.

 

I am guessing that you are an idiot - about 22 years old, and you're still a virgin.

Stock insults from the Holy Roller? *BLEEP*! I won't live that down. Yeah. Anyone who knows that when the war machine gets rolling, money starts rolling in must have never had sex? Nice logic, dipshit. People die. Life's just a series of chemical reations. Chemical reactions stopping for money? I'm all for it.

 

It is an educated guess of mine that you are NOT of japanese descent.

What brought up Japan? I got my name from a Tetris song for a Russia gimmick. Mainly to parody Donglish, which nobody will get, chances are.

 

You cry because you learn that a majority of people believe that the war in Iraq is bad.... it is just terribly sad that the majority wasn't before we attacked!

Uh, what? How is being all for something crying? Unless if I'm mistaken, you're the one bleeding out of your womanly parts about some lives of scum bag terrorists being lost.

 

You certainly heard the argument that this war is creating new terrorists (that hate America).

Good for them? If they blow themselves up, less terrorists. Hahaha.

 

You should try to focus on peace.

"HAY TERRORISTS LOL LETS HAVE PEACE LOL" will solve everything? This isn't a *BLEEP*ing Disney movie. Insert quarter and try again. Just like all religious shitbags, they're willing to die for their cause. They can't be reasoned with. The only way to stop them is by force.

 

In short, man up. Stop fellating your political parties and even relying on them for opinions. I support the war and our troops. Let's go bomb Iran for round 2.

 

Notice from jlhaslip:

Edit: Wow. Those quote tags aren't working right.

Notice from serverph:

now it works, albeit quote tags are limited to 10.

Edited September 26, 2006 by serverph (see edit history)

[BooZker 0]

obviously the people fighting this war right now, do not want to stop because if they wanted to, they couldq uite the military and stay home and not get shiped out the next time or ever again, but they keep going back, they keep going back and fighting. so i say, if they want to keep going back and fighting, let them fight for america and make sure the rest of the god damned terrorists in the world know if you screw with america you will pay immensley!!

OK first off you can't just stop going to work when your in the army. When they say you are done you can also get called back in. Make sure to know your facts. The only way to quit after signing up is getting injured where you can no longer fight.

 

Next why should we let them fight for America? You don't let gangs fight on the streets here and kill people. Why is it OK if we are in another country with camo on? It isn't. The only difference is the president said to. If the president told you to jump off a bridge would you do it? A big portion of America would just because he is our leader. Well *BLEEP* our leader. He is thee worst president we have ever had. Clinton got a bad wrap, but all he did was get oral. It's so aggravating and frustrating when people don't see this.

 

Finally. America pays back EVERYONE not only the people who "screw" with us, but people like Iraq who did nothing, but really flip off America. Yes, the leader of Iraq was evil and a horrible person, but do we really have to go and kill all those inocent people? Tell me is this really cool?

 

 

Is it? Is cool, awesome, or funny? Two dead children? What if they were your children? The people that say, well it's war, are the people i hate. You are the people who follow anyone. The people who never question anything. You go along in life just seeing the world as you were brought up. Step out side the box and just look at how many people are dead. There was NO reason to go over. Their was NO WMD, they did NOT have the terroists, and lastly they had never attacked us. If they do not attack us why should we go over there and start a god damn war?

 

Sorry if i get a little emotional, but i just can't see how you people think it's alright. I'm sorry. I would REALLY like the mods and admins to not take that picture off. It's not too bloody and nothing to gruesom. I think it would be good to keep it up and at least make my point of view stronger.

 

If you agree with me then i salutue you. You are a TRUE patriot. Patriots don't go out and kill innocent people. They are the ones that are supposed to bring PEACE and FREEDOM not DEATH and MURDER.

[Brian Gillingham 0]

OK first off you can't just stop going to work when your in the army. When they say you are done you can also get called back in. Make sure to know your facts. The only way to quit after signing up is getting injured where you can no longer fight.

 

Next why should we let them fight for America? You don't let gangs fight on the streets here and kill people. Why is it OK if we are in another country with camo on? It isn't. The only difference is the president said to. If the president told you to jump off a bridge would you do it? A big portion of America would just because he is our leader. Well *BLEEP* our leader. He is thee worst president we have ever had. Clinton got a bad wrap, but all he did was get oral. It's so aggravating and frustrating when people don't see this.

 

Finally. America pays back EVERYONE not only the people who "screw" with us, but people like Iraq who did nothing, but really flip off America. Yes, the leader of Iraq was evil and a horrible person, but do we really have to go and kill all those inocent people? Tell me is this really cool?

 

 

Is it? Is cool, awesome, or funny? Two dead children? What if they were your children? The people that say, well it's war, are the people i hate. You are the people who follow anyone. The people who never question anything. You go along in life just seeing the world as you were brought up. Step out side the box and just look at how many people are dead. There was NO reason to go over. Their was NO WMD, they did NOT have the terroists, and lastly they had never attacked us. If they do not attack us why should we go over there and start a god damn war?

 

Sorry if i get a little emotional, but i just can't see how you people think it's alright. I'm sorry. I would REALLY like the mods and admins to not take that picture off. It's not too bloody and nothing to gruesom. I think it would be good to keep it up and at least make my point of view stronger.

 

If you agree with me then i salutue you. You are a TRUE patriot. Patriots don't go out and kill innocent people. They are the ones that are supposed to bring PEACE and FREEDOM not DEATH and MURDER.

 

I agree that this picture should stay up. Please do not remove this image and assist in the censorship that we are subject to daily. We should already declare that this is a closed case - in light of the last picture especially. Thank you very much for making the point that we are looking like the overall bad guy here. Nobody can justify these killings to me.

 

If you disagree with what we are saying here, you simply don't want peace. That's the conclusion I have to make. Especially, no christian on the face of this earth should agree that the path to winning this war is through killing; we'd have to kill virtually all Arabs and then kill all who sympathize with Arab complaints - and then we'd probably have to quell the rest of the earth as they voice their dissent.

 

Tell your Senator that you think that we should leave the Arab world - tell the Arabs that our bullets and tanks will no longer threaten their holy lands, and they will have to adhere to their holy words that you should only fight the infidel as long as he is in your land.

Edited September 30, 2006 by Brian Gillingham (see edit history)