Coldfusion Vs. Php

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Replying to kvarnerexpressI have never used PHP only Coldfusion. However, since Adobe bought CF, it has been exploding. Check out the new features of CF 8. I could be wrong, but I don't think you are going to find PDF manipulation or interaction with MS Exchange servers with free server technologies.-reply by da_roc

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It seems ColdFusion is faster then PHP

Coldfusion Vs. Php

 

I love PHP and wouldn't chose any program above PHP but when it comes to performance! PHP HOGS resources when it comes to multiple users. I'm only a beginner, IIS is okay and Apache is Okay, the main issue what each would do with limited resources that in itself is business model...

 

I think, instead of allowing us building scrips to run on servers, they should build a framework, that actually run's the server itself that way it eliminates the use of the server searching for a third party to run the program...

 

 

-reply by Lutchy Horace

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Replying to Trap FeedBackerColdFusion is horrid. And PHP shouldn't be a resource hog unless you are running it CGI mode instead of as an Apache module. Also...Windows/IIS combo is the worst.-reply by Sam H4xXx

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Expense of ColdFusion

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I have the free developer version of ColdFusion 8. What expenses are involved with ColdFusion that my version doesn't cover?

 

 

 

Thank you

 

 

 

-question by Bruce Kersten

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coldfusion vs PHP

Coldfusion Vs. Php

 

I have tried both but I think coldfusion is a lot easy compare to PHP, doing things in coldfusion can take lesser time compare to PHP, that's in my case as a beginner, well then ask your boss, how much cost will it take to maintain coldfusion compare to the salary he will pay to the additional number of personnel to work on PHP to finish a job.

 

But any way coldfusion could run on Apache web server running on Linnux right? so why not try that option both Apache and Linnux are free so your company will just have to pay for the maintenance of coldfusion.

 

 

 

-reply by Beginner

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ColdFusion vs Php

Coldfusion Vs. Php

 

Well, ive been a cold fusion developer for over 5 years, and have done lots of work with php aswell, and the choice really depends on the applications you are going to create, hands down Cold Fusion will cut development time by over 40%, and with a solid frame work, like FuseBox, you will be amazed how fast development will be. So if you have the budget for it, Cold Fusion all the way

 

Php on the other hand, free, and available everywhere, ive found even performance to be slightly better than coldfusion also, and I wouldnt like to get involved with a large project in php either, way to much hair, its my choice for quick and dirty apps.

 

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Omar Samad

 

-reply by Omar Samad

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Potato, potahto

Coldfusion Vs. Php

 

Replying to Trap FeedBacker

 

Coldfusion is a better choice for working in a corporate environment: every since MX introduced components which allowed you to build objects it has been far easier to control development over large projects. Tag introspection also allows it to be self-documenting which is a huge time saver. Plus many of the really awesome user features (like the dynamic charting, the CFFILE and CFTREE tags) are only really used in business applications.

 

For bog-standard websites, there's really not much to choose. In fact since Joomla arrived, that is the first choice for ad hoc development.

 

-reply by BennyM

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Coldfusion vs php

Coldfusion Vs. Php

 

Replying to Trap FeedBacker

Hi Omar Samad,

I read your reply regrding the matter. I was just wondering, how much more expensive is Coldfusion compare to php, for a big project?

I would really appreciate your reply.

Thank you very much.

 

-question by Selina

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coldfusion info

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The free developer version of coldfusion has everything the payed version does it just has a different license. You can only use it for development reasons, not for commercial.

 

Also php does not beat coldfusion in any test what so ever. There isn't a single one. Heres an article on problems with php http://toykeeper.net/soapbox/php_problems/

 

Also I really don't want to write pages of text, so read the article. And the commericialised area by zend ruins performance of php. Also if php ever did have anything better then coldfusion don't you think the billion dollar company Adobe would have made coldfusion better? php doesnt have a development team like coldfusion at all, they even struggle to make php6 with unicode support.

 

Read the article. Also you wont find one commercial company using php, end of story.

If you want to be a developer and make money cold fusion all the way.

 

Don't say commercial companies do, they don't. I know for a fact they don't. They want a product made by a company who is the ****, adobe is it.

A problem or a bug, they will fix it.

They are the supreme masters. All their programmes crap on competitors.

 

Be realistic

 

-reply by heath sims

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Feedback about the two

Coldfusion Vs. Php

 

If you are not a competent coder, ColdFusion is the way to go. The larger the project the more cumbersome ColdFusion handles it. There are instances when cold-fusion can be a quick, clean and easy way to complete an app, but if structured correctly, php preforms better and in my experiences, can become modular much quicker.

 

I have worked with my own MVC framework I wrote for php, and have been dealing a lot lately with model-glue + coldspring + reactor, and I have to say that, in terms of large scale repetitive development, coldfusion is rediculous. The rapid part of development goes only so far, before it starts to become a relationship nightmare.

 

If you have been programming long, C++ or other similar OOP languages, and can form structured code, you will be able to develop apps quickly in any language, in the end there is no best or worst really, I work A LOT in both, and consider myself an expert php developer, but either way, both languages can handle development just as easy, it just depends on the developer and their syntax preference.

 

-reply by Anthony

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An the survey says... *eh uhrrrr*

Coldfusion Vs. Php

 

Replying to Trap FeedBacker

 

The comments by Heath Sims are what you call a 'biased response'. I'm thinkin' that's a typical "my programming language is better than yours" reply.

 

Forgetting the fact that, that article has an impressive amount of 'shortcomings' in itself and is outdated, every programming language on earth has its shortcomings (I guess you forgot to add a link to ColdFusion's?).

 

Performance wise, unless somebody would like to go away and run benchmark tests on both numbering in the thousands to get a reliable result which all have an impressive amount of variables that have to be accounted for, none of us are in a position to question "Which has the better performance?".

 

"Also if PHP ever did have anything better then coldfusion don't you think the billion dollar company Adobe would have made coldfusion better"

 

The fact that Adobe has money has absolutely no bearing at all on which is the better programming language. Some of the best projects in the world have been free and open source.

 

"Also you wont find one commercial company using php, end of story.

If you want to be a developer and make money cold fusion all the way. Don't say commercial companies do, they don't. I know for a fact they don't. They want a product made by a company who is the ****, adobe is it."

 

Wow that's a strong statement, you also couldn't be more wrong. In fact, it's the absolute opposite. The company I work for (the market leader in what it does) runs the entire business off complex Adobe Flex applications with a PHP and MSSQL backend (we even switched to PHP from ColdFusion). PHP freelancers also receive more work than ColdFusion developers (search any major freelancer site). There are more PHP jobs available than ColdFusion http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/ is a good example (for the UK).

 

So lets "Be realistic".

 

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To be honestly, I never really tried coldfusionbut I would go for PHPMore people use PHPAlmost every free hosts support PHPnot many hosts support coldfusion, thats why I wasnt able to learn more about coldfusionALLOT of PHP Tutorials onlineIts free afcourseIf you know C++/ C# it will be easy to learnIts easier, I thinkYou can compile PHP codes to executable(bambalam, php2exe etc...)Its very fast, and great for making web applicationsAnd lots more!Its just better, dont u think ?- optiplex

Edited June 27, 2008 by optiplex (see edit history)

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I would choose php,right know thinking at cold fusin gives me headaches...but I believe with strong knowledge in cf you're faster than with php..but for now I'm still learning php so no bother to use cf..

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Hi everyone !Currently I am using php... I searched alot and also asked from experts, they say:Php is better than coldfusion if you want to get a job...But coldfusion is certainly easy but slower !PHP is my choice.Thats alll,Thanks-reply by Hassan Ahmad

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A lot of misinformation

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Many of these posts contain a great amount of incorrect information regarding Coldfusion.

 

In my experience, 90% of people who dislike Coldfusion have either no, or very little experience with it, and the experience they have is often 5+ years old.

 

I think Coldfusion gets a bad reputation because it is indeed so easy to learn, and because of this, theres a lot of bad code out there. However, comparing noob-level CF to more advanced PHP is certainly not a fair comparison. Coldfusion, written by competent developers, is both clean and highly modular.

 

Also, one thing people mention is that if you know C/C++, learning PHP is easier than CF. This statement shows the ignorance of most people regarding coldfusion. 90% of coldfusion can written in a C-style manner, called 'cfscript'.

 

I think there are certainly benefits to each. PHP is free, and more widely supported, and theres a lot of free stuff written in it. CF is backed by a larger company and can access any Java libraries at will.

 

Personally, I prefer Coldfusion. I like the language more (seems cleaner), and the rapid development factor makes a difference -- I can write half the code to do the same things in PHP. There are also a lot of built in, officially supported features that are very nice, including automatic PDF creation from HTML content (though, I'm sure many of the built-in features of CF have been created by someone for php).

 

As for high-level performance issues, I can't really comment, as I have no experience in web apps with huge amounts of traffic (hey, I'm not doin the sales, lol), but I've heard the rumors regarding CF's performance as well. I have also heard that CF8, the latest version greatly increased enterprise-level performance, and there are plenty of bigger sites out there running it.

 

It all comes down to whats right for you. If someones debating which to learn, I say learn both. Syntax is syntax, a good programmer can adapt to any situation.

 

 

-reply by absurdparadox