fraudulentpeanut 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 I would definately go with Gentoo. Gentoo has the portage feature which compiles packages based on your system specs with all needed dependancies. It saves you time from having to find and install the dependancies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pbrugge 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 I would definately go with Gentoo. Gentoo has the portage feature which compiles packages based on your system specs with all needed dependancies. It saves you time from having to find and install the dependancies. 214673[/snapback] And apt doesn't do that ? Gentoo is a nice system I agree on that. The thing is that you need to read allot as beginner so you also learn more about the command line and install Gentoo at the same time which is good. A big downside of Gentoo is that even a small package instalation can take hours to compile which is also the reason I stopped using it and went back to debian. I tried ubuntu and kubunttu to ones but even with backports selected (ubuntu user know what I mean) I found some libs (and software) to old to compile self downloaded source tarballs. But Ubuntu sure is a great starters distro where you can learn how to work with linux. Dont go slackware its good but for most beginners it could be to difficult to use. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stlgoalie 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 FreeBSD != LinuxFreeBSD is a true free Unix operating system and designed to be a server platform. If I was going to run a server and not use a Mac, FreeBSD is my personal choice. The Ports system for installing apps is a dream! If you want Linux, then SuSE has been the version I used to learn the Unix basics. Linux is "unix-like", but isn't truely Unix. If you can spend money, think about the Mac Mini. BSD based Unix with commerically supported programs. Today I use Macintosh because of OSX. To me it's the right balance between opensource, Unix, propitary, and commerical applications. Basically I get all my OSS goodies (Apache, MySQL, PHP, and PERL) with all my commerical software needs (photoshop, lightwave, and Quickbooks) along with some cool Mac only stuff (Final Cut Pro, Shake, DVD Studio Pro) all on one machine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zaqy 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2005 Linux is different with BSD variant (OpenBSD,FreeBSD, or NetBSD) depend on what you use for server or desktop pc.for a first time i try using mandrake 8.0 it very simple to instal because this is user friendly.if you want to try another Linux OS you can try Fedora ( Redhat ) this is a famous linux . if you confuse which OS you want to use. you can try knoppix live cd. it doesn't need to install because it run from cd rom not install to CD.I don't use FreeBsd yet. so i can't tell it about the performance. but i ever using OpenBSD and this is good for server ( not for desktop pc) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lacking_imagination 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2005 I personally use DSL (http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/) because I have no internet on my home pc, so I can only download stuff at the library onto my iPod. I didn't know ubuntu ships free cds, so I may check that out. The problem with DSL is it is _extremely_ minimalistic. It comes with xpaint, firefox, dillo, emelfm.bin for the filemanager, xcalc, siag, beaver, fluxbox and another window manager, and a few other apps/games. The plus side of it is DSL's iso is currently only 47mb. It is debian based, but you have to download a compiler for other distros. You also have to install a package for apt-get, and a few other basic linux tools. The other packages are only 1-10mb for those tools, though, and can be easily accessed through an icon on the desktop.I've found there's not a lot of extra support for external hardware (my wacom pen isn't supported, but the mouse works), but things like that are constantly being improved upon. Their forums are _extremely_ helpful as well. Also, openoffice. Abiword, xfree86, wine, audacity and quite a few other programs are easily installable.It's a very nice live cd, and its also a nice hd installed linux. And it's tiny and can run from your ram only... Definetly something worth checking out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leiaah 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2005 I noticed there are a lot of posts about linux these past few days. I've only tried installing Gentoo and it was a bit difficult at first since there's no GUI to guide you in the installation. You have to print the Gentoo handbook first because it will come in handy when you're installing. If you're looking for a version to start with you might want to avoid redhat and mandrake since you have to buy them cuz they're not free anymore but if money isn't the issue then go buy them. Gentoo is still free but it's again a bit difficult to install. But if you're good in following directions in the handbook you'll be fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lokesh 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2005 I was just wondering, cause since windows had been giving me major pi*soff problems, I'm thinking of switching to linux. I heard that FreeBSD is good for beginners, SuSE too, and so is Fedora Core. So which one would be the best recommendation for a total linux illiterated user like myself? 212467[/snapback] I started using a month ago and i was also new to linux at that time. I started to research a lot into linux to find out which is the best for me, and i found out that Ubuntu Linux stays the best out there for total newbies. The main problem with linux is that many newbies to linux don't know how to install drivers which requires to type in some commands. So the best distribution would be the one which eases this part for the newbies so that they can start learning to use linux. Ubuntu was the best linux distro that i ever used. It automatically installed the drivers for my sound, LAN etc. and guess what, i just used the live cd of ubuntu and i was able to browse the net just in a few minutes after i booted in with the live cd. So, i strongly recommend all the newbies to linux to try out Ubuntu. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michaelper22 0 Report post Posted December 25, 2005 I have a machine setup with SuSE Linux 9.1 Professional. For the $89 it costs me, I got 2 manuals, 5 CDs, and 2 double-sided DVDs (for 64-bit machines). It took about 2 hours to install it (that's because the computer is old, and therefore, very slow) and I only have about 200 MB left on my hard drive (I plan to resize my Windows partition even more than YaST did during setup). I like the KDE enviroment; it has nice 3D icons, very configurable. SuSE's nice installation and administration tool, YaST, is a wonder compared to Control Panel.Here are some old but useful articles on beginnig with Linux:http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/#http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bureX 0 Report post Posted December 26, 2005 Gosh, so much suggestions! :DI would go for these two steps:1) Live CD - Knoppix, Slax or Ubuntu Live - get familiar with Linux2) SuSE 10, Ubuntu or Mandrake - install itI personally use SuSE 10 with the Gnome desktop environment, so far it is really stable and functional! 60% of all work I do in Windows can be done in SuSE! Remember, SuSE is a 1DVD or 5CD distribution, so if you do a full install, you probably won't have to download anything at all if you want to install any additional programs... Of course, Yast is here to do all the updating, so there's no need to worry about keeping your system up to date..Remember: You can install any distribution that you want, whether it is a user friendly one, or an advanced one, but if you want to make all your devices work in Linux and configure your Linux system completely, you will have to use the CONSOLE sooner or later! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
psychiccyberfreak 0 Report post Posted December 26, 2005 there is really no 'best' Distro for you. You need to download them all, test them, and see which one is the best for you, not just 'the best'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michaelper22 0 Report post Posted December 26, 2005 Remember: You can install any distribution that you want, whether it is a user friendly one, or an advanced one, but if you want to make all your devices work in Linux and configure your Linux system completely, you will have to use the CONSOLE sooner or later! 215721[/snapback] I bought SuSE linux after reading those PC World articles mentioned above. I was not very educated at the time. But now I am happy with my decision. Sometimes you take what comes. And, yes, the console is very important. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qube 0 Report post Posted December 26, 2005 I'm not at all new to the linux scene.My experience with it, however, is quite less.Unfortunately, many of the programs I use were made only for windows.Quite annoying imo.However I have tested quite a few distros via livecd.My favorite was either SuSe or Ubuntu.Fairly easy to setup and recognizes most of your hardware right away.As soon as I can make a backup of all my personal files I'll be switching.I'll try to let you guys know how it goes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fraudulentpeanut 0 Report post Posted December 26, 2005 I would reccommend Gentoo to any user who is really interested in getting down and dirty with linux. Aside from its many features, which I will outline a bit below for you, it is meant to make learn linux from the start. It has a textual based install(pdont get scared though as there is a complete intall walkthrough available). From formatting to installing your Window Manager, you do it all from the command line. This may not sound easy at first, but it actually takes just as long as any other distro install and your system is not cluttered with unused resources and programs.It also enables you to compile your own kernel for your system, this is also good so you do not have a buch of modules eating resources for hardware that you do not even own. That is better than the generic kernel that most distros are going to.The best feature however is portage. It is a cache of nearly 90% of the programs available for linux. meaning you can simply install a program by typing for example "emerge xorg". What this does is downloads the source for xorg and compiles it to your system specs, so you get the best bang for your install. It also holds dependency trees so that if you emerge a program with dependencies, it will also search your system and if they are not installed it will install those as well.If you have any questions please feel free to pm me or ask on here.Please check it out at http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/. As a note to the mods, this is all in my own words and not copied from anywhere. I just wanted to outline the key features of this distro for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eikon 0 Report post Posted December 27, 2005 Personally, I'm a fan of Ubuntu, just because it's so easy to use and I don't know too much about programming or anything like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leiaah 0 Report post Posted December 27, 2005 there is really no 'best' Distro for you. You need to download them all, test them, and see which one is the best for you, not just 'the best'. 215741[/snapback] There are more than 200 distro out there and more in development so it would be very difficult to download and test ALL of them. Maybe just the proven and tested ones. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites