Internet Explorer And Web Standards The harm IE does to Web

[eXtreme 0]

People already discussed extensively that IE has lots of security bugs, has important missing features, blah blah..

 

There are better options out there, everyone knows that, such as Mozilla Firefox. Why people still didn?t change their browser is what I can?t understand. Firefox is in everywhere, in ads, text, links, images, so I think it?s almost impossible that for exemple you, Internet Explorer user, still didn?t know anything about it.

 

Don?t get me wrong, I don?t want to offend you. But when people prefer IE over another good browsers, knowing that IE has lots of security holes, its core isn?t updated for more than 4 years, it doesn?t support navigation by tabs, neither supports extensions (plugins) or themes..

 

But wait!! Those are all user-side features. So what?s the problem in everyone using IE and I?m the only one using another browser?

 

Well, if you think like that, then sadly you?re wrong. For web designers and web programmers, that does matter. Cause IE fails to support the web standards! In another words web designers and programmers need to change or add lots of code lines to their websites to make them IE friendly.

 

With this webmasters need to write sometimes hours of web code so their website shows properly to IE users, when just with the basic and normal code would work perfectly for Firefox users. and the worse it that the hours spent on the additional code could be used to update and change the code to make web surfing more enjoyable, easy and safe for everyone.

 

If you have a bigger reason than this, then I?ll not argue more about it. But if you did understand the problems that IE is causing not only to the users that use it, but to the whole web itself, then it?s never to late to change.

 

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[truefusion 3]

Well, if you think like that, then sadly youre wrong. For web designers and web programmers, that does matter. Cause IE fails to support the web standards! In another words web designers and programmers need to change or add lots of code lines to their websites to make them IE friendly.
With this webmasters need to write sometimes hours of web code so their website shows properly to IE users, when just with the basic and normal code would work perfectly for Firefox users. and the worse it that the hours spent on the additional code could be used to update and change the code to make web surfing more enjoyable, easy and safe for everyone.

If you have a bigger reason than this, then Ill not argue more about it. But if you did understand the problems that IE is causing not only to the users that use it, but to the whole web itself, then its never to late to change.

IE, does not fail to support web standards. Like i've mentioned before, every browser supports every html/css code founded at W3C. And every browser makes their own coding as well (which many people find useful, aside from the basics). If you use these new coding, your code will appear invalid when validating. I myself would prefer HTML and CSS to be a server-side include. NOT a browser feature. This way, all will be the same all basic. I agree with that IE was late on updates for security. And then, finally, SP2 came out. But, what people dont understand is that there are other ways of protecting yourself than letting your browser do it for you. Just cause your browsing is protecting you, doesnt mean you're fully protected. I'm an IE user, and i have no spyware on my computer (at least to the knowledge of the programs that i have protecting me). To add on to that, new spyware are created every so often, that no program can garuntee 100% security from spyware. And as for the ones tell us "other browser" users to convert to another browser. Saying that we need to doesnt help much. Tell us why, or suggest at least trying out the program. I am still an IE fan. I've tried Firefox, and it just wasnt for me. I'd tell you reasons why i sticked with IE, but that'll be maybe for another post.

[unicornrose 0]

What it comes down to when it comes to web browsers is not necessarily whatis better or worse, but what people are used to. Alot of people are either resistant to change or have a hard time with change. I am used to explorer. I do have Firefox on my computer. I also do use it. I think its a better web explorer. I am not resistant to the use of it I am just a little stuck in my ways. I have used explorer for years and so I naturally use explorer first when I am doing the majority of my web work. I have also found that firefox does run a little slow on my computer. I think it may be because my computer is so slow. I am hoping when I upgrade or get a new computer that will change. That is just my take as to why more people don't use firefox.

[Saint_Michael 3]

well the thing is though people who buy a brand new computer for the first time and have never used are quite nervouse of downloading software off the net and that thye rely on whats already on their computer, but for me i choose Ie over firefox due to the fac that firefox has csaused me more problems then i really need, IE7 should fix all the problems people be having.But firefox is not invincable, odds are hackers are paying attention to firefox and working on ways to hack the browser, so you see no matter what browser you use its always going to have security issue no matter how well you code it and make it unhackable thier is always someone better then you.

[strawberrie 0]

Hmm... personally, I don't think the problem's that IE doesn't meet the web standards. After all, each person (whether they're a web programmer or not) has their own opinions of what 'web standards' defines as. Some might find it in Firefox's easy surfing and basic functions that satisfy one's web browsing needs. However, others still favor the good old IE. They may be used to its original interface or may simply find it a better browser, based on their own interpretation of whether or not IE meets web standards.Sure, webmasters might spend quite a lot of time coding pages so they'll show up nicely in IE. But that's more or less their own choice. For example, with this whole new Firefox revolution, more and more sites are actually basing their coding on how their site appears in Firefox, and not just IE. (I know that I do ) And some webmasters actually set their coding standards upon the Firefox browser alone.(Oh, and it's true that IE's had lots of security holes in the past and still has some, but Microsoft's been working on the security patches, and I feel that it's been working somewhat XD... However, I'm still a Firefox fanatic, ohohoho )

[rvovk 0]

Good webmasters know what are they doing. So Internet Explorer isn't quite a fuss to be coded for. You have hacks for IE all over the net. Tried my site in all browsers and everything showed fine.Hopefully IE7 will meet webstandards, but I can realize why such big company like MicroSoft can't code browser that will meet standards?

[ArcaneSpirit 0]

I personally don't get why everyone is attacking Internet Explorer, it's still one of the most popular web browsers according to online statistics. As far as security problems go, Microsoft has been updating IE 6 with security fixes for a while and are planning to release IE7 sometime in the near future, which is supposed to be packed with features. As for Web Standards, as it was pointed out earlier, Internet Explorer meets W3C standards, but there are a few things that I would suggest Microsoft get in gear with, like supporting PNG Transparency?! It annoys me without end that I can create and awesome looking graphic and save it as PNG file just to have IE users unable to view it properly because IE doesn't support the transparency feature that using PNG is so commonly used for...Grrr! I'm hoping that this is fixed with the release of IE7... That would be my only reason to say that IE needs an update. Later, A

[Sebastian Naitsabes 0]

Internet Explorer holds the whole web back from becoming a lot better, because of it's huge market share and lack of http://www.w3.org/ web standards support as in the web page coding it supports and how. This means that the majority of web sites are made for it. As a result of this they are not as good as they could be, because they are not using web standards coding that can do really good stuff to these web pages.

Certain web sites are only made for Internet Explorer this is bad, because web sites should be made to work on more than one browser.

If Internet Explorer had about 50% market share and standards compliant browsers such as Firefox had about 50% market share. We would probably have a much better web. The majority of web sites would probably validate or nearly validate at W3C. Some web sites might even make more than one version. One version for Internet Explorer and another for standards compliant browsers. In fact maybe, just maybe, Internet Explorer would be a standards compliant browser or nearly if it had about 50% market share and the other browsers such as Firefox had about 50% market share.

Why people should choose FIrefox: http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/ Most of the text on that webpage is by me, because I helped the guy with the text for that page.

[Ryo 0]

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[dontmaimyourself 0]

While I do think that the 'incompliance' of web standards by Internet Explorer is a problem (the worst of which is its luaghable support for CSS 2.0), It is very easily overcome, I mean as previously said there are hacks for IE all over the internet, and while this does make the job of a web designer harder I do not think that it will get the same amount of coverage, I mean lets face it most people don't even care about web standards, or even know they exist. But it would be nice if they could make it better, but knowing Microsoft they will focus mostly on the obvious 'cool' features, which are standard in just about all other browsers, for example tabbed browsing (which in my opinion isn't implemented very well in IE7 Beta, which could change I know). Aswell as this they will (or at least say they have) improve security. At the end of the day Microsoft will go after the largest market (Home users, who know very little about web standards). And most importantly of all if you don't like IE dont use IE, use a browser that gets updated every now and then (sorry i couln't go through this whole post and not 'take a swipe' at Microsoft ).

[vitrus 0]

heey eXtreme! Finally someone that uses his brain! Away with Internet Explorer, and fron now on.... ONLY :

 

 

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Amen...

[Arigato 0]

Internet Explorer can be a nightmare sometimes when it comes to web design. It would be so much easier if they would follow standards. I can't even count the amount of times I've thought "If there wasn't an Internet Explorer this would be so much easier." I also hate the fact that some people create layouts that only work in IE and I have to switch browsers to go on it. Hopefully the next major release of Internet Explorer will be more standards compliant.

[Tyssen 0]

After all, each person (whether they're a web programmer or not) has their own opinions of what 'web standards' defines as.

Web standards is a set of guidelines as laid down by the World Wide Web Consortium: they're not something that each individual person has their own definition of.