Nuclear War Scenarios ...who will start it?

[sandeep89 0]

from what i know, there are more then enough contries who have the technology to start a nuclear way, be it china, japan, usa, uk, india, pakistan, korea, so many people. Most know that it is a bad idea, as, for example, USA need to keep ties with many countries for oil and such, ties which would be severed should they start a nuclear war that the countries would not agree on.Anyone can start it, but i don't think that they would, just becuase it is in the worst intrest of everyone, if they nuke someone, someone will nuke them and then they will be put in an extremely comprimising situation, whereby they are putting themselves and everyone in their country at risk, a decision that very few countries are willing, or would even consider making.

[iGuest 3]

Look I've lived(well born )in china, the days where china can start a nuclear war ended when mao-ju-shi died, now it's just weak party officials who get replaced every few years. China would not have anything to gain over a war with America since their economy are some closly tied. Strangly america who wants to promote world peace is giving nuclear technology to india, "accidentally" shipped some nuclear parts to tiawan, putting a anti-missile system in south korea and japan, and stationing troops in three of them. Now are they asking for a war????Seems like it with it's containment policy, why is it when Cuba got nukes they flipped out but when tiawan or india has it it's alright???? Being number 1 in the world for too long makes you a selfish, culturally-insensitive, and rouge state in it's own way: invading other countries, telling them what to be, supporting pro-america tyrants like pakistan (how is that right? bECAUSE IT BENEFITS AMERICA BUT TORTURES and kills pakis?)How can america fly it's spy planesthat can see into China internaltional waters while china can't spy on america with planes. One day america will screw up, and honestly.. I would be laughing at all the americians dying here in america's third-world *****: Canada. We make all the urainum but we don't use it-reply by Glow

[adrianator 0]

Maybe the USA put the WMDs in Iraq and wherever else they claim to have them and now they are frantically searching for them because those countries are now playing keeps. Just like when we supply weapons to anything else. It could be a huge mistake to do so as we learned with the Al Qaeda.

[jack177 0]

Maybe the USA put the WMDs in Iraq and wherever else they claim to have them and now they are frantically searching for them because those countries are now playing keeps. Just like when we supply weapons to anything else. It could be a huge mistake to do so as we learned with the Al Qaeda.

Interesting perspective (somewhat funny) it's unlikly since it will just be easier to fake or plant one for the media. However if a nuclear device actually was there through some possibility such as

* ---unlikely--- A middle east country developing it's own nuclear weapon.

* ---unlikely--- America actually giving or planting a bomb and losing it.

* ---possible--- A failed or shot down israel jet carrying nukes in one of the 5 wars (from sum of all fears ).

* ---Likely--- A nuclear device brought from a former soviet country.

* ---Likely--- A nuclear technology brought from former-soviet countries, china, pakistan, india, former soviet scientists, or north korea. Then used to turn weapon grade uraninum (for another source) to a bomb.

* ---very likely--- Nuclear material brought from former soviet countries waiting to be weaponized or used as a dirty bomb.

* ---very likely--- Nuclear material refinined in Iran (with it's own Uraninum mines) to be used as a dirty bomb.

Either or some of those options will create a local power broker if they keep it, or a very big mushroom cloud in Israel or USA.

If it was the local power broker option, it will abuse it to it's advantage: such as enforcing it's ideas on others, leverage with Israel (or tatical nukes in F-16s from it), greater pressence in the region and in OPEC (more control over oil), and the domination of the Persian Gulf. The long-term effects will be a generally peaceful middle east with a single more agressive country vs israel.( probably not in war). (sounds alot like USA)

However if they decide to use it:

* In Israel: They probably choose Tel Aviv since Jerusalem is also holy to muslims, it'll result in the deaths of millions of jewish people, it will also result in millions of the offender's citizens dead, but rich -bas-t-urds(not a bad word) don't care.

* In America: They probably choose something easily reconizeble and big, so new york. This will cripple eastern coast TV, destory alot of banks national and international, kill millions, cost Trillions(I'm serious). And America will have to strike back even if it doesn't know who's responsible (unlike 911 there's no indication of upcoming attacks). It will probably nuke Iran, the mostly likly country, or it can nuke Medina and Mecca (therefore implying that they want to destory the muslim religion) and in a war of a billion muslims worldwide and 300million americians (don't expect any allies for america if it does this) I'm gonna have to further north in canada to the eskimos and learn to hunt.

Of course this is all just a scenario

[mikeyboy63 0]

There's no reason to believe that the U.S. and China will go to war. Taiwan is a diplomatic issue and will eventually be resolved through diplomacy. The most likely nations to launch a nuclear attack are obviously Israel and the USA. The single most likely scenario being an Israeli conventional attack upon Iran, followed by an Iranian conventional retaliation, an Israeli campaign of misinformation claiming that Iran, and possibly even Syria, have nukes, and then an Israeli nuclear strike against Iran and possibly even Syria. These Israeli acts of aggression could pull the Saudis and Egypt into the melee, though unlikely. The fallout from a nuclear attack would kill millions of Iranians, Afghanis, Pakistanis, and depending on the wind directions for several weeks, could even kill hundreds of thousands of Saudis, Israelis and Palestinians.It is highly improbable that the USA would launch a nuclear strike first. There is simply no justification for it anywhere in the world. It's possible that, if Israel was determined to attack Iran, that the USA would launch the attack instead for the purpose of protecting Israel. This is truly possible since the USA is currently occupying Afghanistan and Iraq for the sole purpose of protecting Israel. We (the USA) has already set a precedent for putting Israeli security ahead of our own national security.The other potential flashpoint is Pakistan. Either an exchange with India or an Islamic extremist coup in Pakistan, followed by either an Indian, Israeli, or American nuclear strike against Pakistani military installations and suspected nuclear weapons caches. Since only Russia and possibly China have the range to hit the USA, it's highly unlikely that any of these scenarios would result in a nuclear attack on the US or Europe. However, all of these scenarios represent a nuclear nightmare for the Middle East.

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Replying to brainless

 

Sorry to see that you are so misinformed. I mean that only in the sense of your count of Chinese Nuclear Weapons. First the Chinese do not intend to strike first because currently they do not have the capability to hit past the body of California without using SLBM's.

 

The Chinese Boomers are way to noisy to get close enough for their SLBM's to even matter however. The Chinese also have approximately 500 SRBM's and IRBM's some with up to 3 MIRVS. Therefore if you were conservative and said only 1/3rd of Chinese missles had more then one MIRV then that would put their Targetable MIRV count at 833 plus about 1500 Gravity Bombs and other devices.

 

Making China the third most powerful nuclear nation in the world. Of course the US has a plan for first strike as well as counter strike, limited strike and single strike. Not having a plan is not a plan, get it? After reading your diatrabe it sounds more like you are a Chinese sympathizer.

 

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If a nuclear Armaggedon were to occur I doubt there would be anyone left capable of finishing off or destroy Earth. Chances are, there would be human survivors, and no doubt, animal and plantlife that could adapt to an irradiated biosphere. Who knows maybe one day when we have finished our short existence on this rock one of those organisms lucky enough to discover atomic power will do it again...

 

 

 

 

 

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[FreedomOverdose 0]

Nobody want's nuclear war (with nobody I mean even governments). It a nuclear war starts, this would mean a total disaster of life in earth, as Einstein said: If a nuclear war starts, we will then have to fight with stones! This means that governments claims about nuclear missiles and stuff, are only threats to each other, just to make pressure to accomplish their economical/political needs, believe me

[A200 0]

December 12, 2012.4:44AM.A North Korean plane heads over Washington, completely invisible due to new technological advances at the time. As it reaches 5AM, a bomb is dropped from the plane and lands square onto the White House.BANG BANG BANGA whole chunk of the USA is gone.7AM. A plane appears over New York, and in an instant, another couple of million people are dead, the same happens in Chicago and Los Angeles.The USA gather their bombs up and send planes over North Korea, thinking mistakenly that it was the Koreans. As the USA planes get close, NK realises and sends out a whole army of planes to destroy the bombers. NK wins and the bombers are destroyed. The USA is screwed.NK then send a whole big bang of planes over to USA and bomb whats left. By now, all 330 million residents are dead- the USA is now a nuclear wasteland.NK and China fight over who will be the big world power. China bombs NK and NK is wiped out.Meanwhile, the rest of the world takes notice and gets concerned. The UN launch an emergency meeting in Zurich, Switzerland, and most of the world unites against China.Australia, New Zealand, Brazil, Argentina, France, Canada, Mexico, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Romania, United Kingdom, Singapore, Indonesia, Japan, Mongolia and South Africa. They call it the ANBAFCMFGSIRUSIJMS league.However, China gains an allegiance with India, Vietnam, Phillipines, Russia, Iran and Saudi Arabia all team up. They decide to bomb out Europe, to kill off half of the ANBAFCMFGSIRUSIJMS league. South Africa is completely obliberated, France and Germany fall, UK goes, Switzerland bombed out, Singapore is also attacked and defeated. Canada try to save Australia but are knocked out.Which leaves Australia, New Zealand, Brazil, Argentina, Mexico, Indonesia, Japan and Mongolia. Mongolia, Indonesia, Mexico, Argentina and Brazil all leave the league, leaving OZ and NZ against a massive army.Blah blah blah I am getting bored, OZ and NZ are knocked away, and the rest just bash each other up until they're dead.The people of New Caledonia wake up on a nice summer morning and are completely oblivious to the fact the rest of the world doesn't exist. They live in peace and life a long life.End of story.A200

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All Russia and China as to do is call in it's debts and the United States is finish. There no nuclear weapons as been used to destroy another country because the United Stated did it on it's own by borrowing billions from these two countries.

 

-reply by Richard from Ottawa Canada

[lightforce 0]

I highly doubt that China would start a war with the US1. I believe that even the Chinese military is not stupid enough to start a potentially world-dooming nuclear war2. The US is one of the largest crutches keeping up the Chinese economy (China should be scared that we would cut off trade with them)3. They must have enough sense to know the US is still stronger than the Chinese Military (not in numbers but in weapons)

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2013-Peak oil induced diesel shortage prevents fresh water being pumped to the southwestern US. Race war erupts over the water supplies. Mexico invades to recover territory lost in the Mexican-American War.

Pakistan launches jihad against India, the Pan Islamic Alliance launches jihad against Isreal. Great European Nationalist Revolt erupts.

Late 2013 (the Winter War). Vicious Pan Caucasian Nationalist Empire crushes its enemies in the West, Latin America glassed. Indian counter offensive devastates Pakistan, who retaliates with nuclear weapons. India and Pakistan are devistated and promptly invaded by the Sino-Asian Bloc (formed after China and NK conquer Japan, SK and Taiwan). The SAB invade South-East Asia in revenge for the treatment of there Chinese minorities.

Isreal nukes the Arab capitals and Iran, Iran nukes Isreal. Muslim invasion of Isreal meets feirce resistance.

2014-Holy Race War Over Food and Oil.

All sides institute eugenics programs while still suffering the Great Malthusian Famine. Carribean conqured by the Western Empire.

China exterminate everyone in SE ASia before invading the Middle East through India. Full mobilization commences for the upcomming Chinese invasion of Russia.

2015-Racist Invasions

The Middle East is destroyed by the Sino-Asian Empire. The West and East go to war.

West launches the Kinetic Kill Orbital Bombardment Platform, which fires missiles at 40,000km-per-second (relativistic missile or are-Bomb).

Handheld laser weapons introduced.

Late 2015-Early 2016-China attacks Russia's nuclear arsenal and orders its fifth column infiltration units to attack crucial infrastructure and communications. China invades Russia and pushes westwards.

2016-2020-Four-Years of Genocidal Ethnic/Race War over Food, Water and Oil.

China and its allies slowly conquer Eurasia and Africa. An invasion forces crosses an iced up Baring Strait and attack Alaska.

Tactical nukes used but the western military still holds faith in its technologically advanced weaponry, which racks up enormous casualties. Russia is destroyed.

Laser guns start replacing ballistic guns. Laser sword renders martial arts techniques obsolete (short-range combat only). Are-bombs unleashed against Chinese fleets and troop concentrations.

2020-The End of The World (as we know it)

In retaliation for massive ethnic cleansing in the territories China had seized, the West unleashes Operation Reverse-Racism. The massive nuclear bombardment of China and its allies with 30,000 nuclear warheads. China's retalitory strikes obliterate the US west coast and several Pacific Islands (fleet bases). China and its allies are glassed.

2021-The War ends

Nuclear winter for five years, continuing famine and the decline of the world's population.

2050-

The population of the Earth stabalises at 800,000,000

[EchoTang 0]

by the way: China has "only" about 20 nukes without "first strike"-option while the USA have several thousands and do have plans for doing a nuclear first strike...

Sir, I'm afraid you have no clue what you're talking about. China does not release sensitive detail regarding military operations, sides I'm sure they have a lot more than that probably in the hundreds somewhere.

As everyone except for conspiracy theorists knows now, there were no WMD stockpiles in the Iraq since a couple of years -- but until late 2004, George W. and his comrades stuck to their lies which were not even backed by false intelligence reports

There were never any wmd in Iraq only biological weapons that were supplied courtesy of America. What do you mean 'except for conspiracy theorists'

I don't think there will be a WWIII, governments in this world run for the interests of big businesses. I don't see why they would like the blow up the world they live in. But if there were, I'd say America will start it with another stupid war for money that goes too far.

[networker 0]

To me,the idea of a nuclear war is obviously a scary scenario.

The real scary thing is one happening by accident, or a terrorrist

group simulating an attack from a major power, thus triggering

an all out nuclear war.

This idea of u.s mini nuclear weapons is weird too. How can

they be held to just destroying a bunker? There is radiation from them

that can travel via wind currents and such.

 

It's all mind boggling.

[iGuest 3]

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There will be no winners in the next nuclear war - the only nuclear weapon used was meant to end World War II and the USA remenbered the attack on Pearl Harbor.

Why do developing countries want to have nuclear weapons?  Easy, they want to threaten their neighbors and gain consessions.  The old story of world domination.

North Korea?  Their leaders have no idea what the truth is and continue to starve the people they govern in order to "threaten their neighbors" and preserve that parnoid government.

The USA has no mandate to save the world - in other words, you are on your own, deal with that.

-reply by chuckr