Why go to Iraq and America says sorry :D

[iGuest 3]

!!!very good topic!!!

I would like to reply winbots actually we are very sorry to see brothers mothers sisters and fathers lost their lives in the world trade centre 11/9/ america has he righ to defend their selves I mean to bomb osama and company but not destroy a whole country "afganistan" and kill thausands of innocent ppl and at the end of the day fail to catch the terorrist "osama".

once again america have the righ to fight the what they call "terrorist" but not to bomb whole country "iraq" and kill more than 100.000 innocent ppl destroy every thing but this time without single logical justification, is this the democracy in the american terms? :evil: you all see what happen in faluja now the human been is not respected there any more.

the only thing I can say is "stop the war otherwise you will be responsible for all the bad consequences of your agly actions" (message to bush and supporters)

[iGuest 3]

I don't mean to defend Winbots, but UK (at least your prime minister) also foolishly followed Bush's decision... :roll:America's gov isn't the only one to blame...If noone, I mean not a single country (especially from Europe), had given their aprroval, I doubt they would have still launched a strike !!Even if they're the most powerful country, would they be that reckless to stand before the rest of the world's decision ?

[iGuest 3]

It's amazing how gullable the majority can be... I can't sumerize this, so I'll leave these jokes I found on the net.

 

"Condoleezza Rice was on every network morning show today blaming this whole mess on 'flawed intelligence.' Afterward the president took her into his office and said, 'You weren't talking about me were you?'" Bill Maher, on the failure to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq

 

"President Bush has appointed a commission to answer one big question about pre-war Iraq: How did our oil get under their sand?" Craig Kilborn

 

"As of yesterday, the Bush administration still hadn't found the source of the White House leak that outed a woman as a CIA operative. To recap, here are the things President Bush can't find: The source of the leak, weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Saddam Hussein, Osama bin laden, the link between Saddam and Osama bin laden, the guy who sent the anthrax through the mail, and his butt with two hands and a flash light." Tina Fey, Saturday Night Live's "Weekend Update"

 

"The United Nations has approved the removal of sanctions on Iraq. The lifting of the sanctions will let the Iraqis have a chance to have things they've never had before like medicine and weapons of mass destruction." Conan O'Brien

 

"According to President Bush, 'Weapons of Mass Destruction' is just a figure of speech meaning 'A defenseless nation overflowing with crude oil' that's all. This reminds me of a time in college when my buddy told me 'Hey man, you gotta come to this party. There'll be a ton of hot chicks there.' But when I got to the party there wasn't a hot chick in sight just a bunch of dudes and a keg of crappy beer. So me and my buddy named Briton got out of there as fast as possible and told ourselves that all the hot chicks were probably destroyed before we showed up." Craig Kilborn

 

"In last year's State of The Union, Bush said there was no doubt that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. Last night, Bush said they had 'weapons of mass destruction related program activities.' Whats he going to say next year Iraq had weaponish thing-a-ma-jig whatcha-ma-callits." Jay Leno

 

"During testimony before the Senate Armed Services Committee former U.S. Chief Weapons Inspector David Kay defended President Bush for saying Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. Kay blamed the 'intelligence community.' And he doesn't want anybody confusing Bush with the intelligence community. I think we're okay there." Jay Leno

 

"Oscar nominations came out. Up for best actor, Sean Penn for 'Mystic River,' Jude Law for 'Cold Mountain,' and of course, George W. Bush for 'Iraqi Weapons of Mass Destruction.'" Jay Leno

 

Found at: http://forums.xisto.com/no_longer_exists/

[iGuest 3]

Bush is the worlds worst enemy! he is satan in human form. He seems to do whatever he pleases! And what pisses me off even more Tony blair(our prime minister) is kissing his *bottom*...

Bush say`s god bless america. he says he is an reborn christian! Answer me this? How can you be a religous man when you have the blood of tens of thousands of people on your hands..

Religion cause`s war`s...

Iraq will never be free! it will become a training ground for american troops and it will be  bled dry of all its oil

 

The worlds gone mad for power and greed..

Nuke the planet

Religion causes war when it's Godless

Religion causesd war when it's founded on Ignorance

Religion causes war mostly, when it's propelled by selfish interests (wether collective or personal)

 

Religion can bring PEACE if only it's based on the light of THE ETERNAL TRUTH!

 

passjoe

 

 

~ be careful : you made a double post... ~ Infraid

[iGuest 3]

if your mom, and your dad, and your brother, and your sister, had been in the world trade centers and they couldn't get out in time, would you be critizing bush for defending the nation and for attempting to eleminate terrorists from the world? what if he hadnt went to war? the terrorists would do it again!

Seems to me that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. True that Saddam was a madman and needed to be overthrown, but in fact he had nothing to do with 9/11. Jr's (president Bush) only reason for invading Iraq was because Saddam threatened his father years earlier. Jr. is a modern day Hitler and is going to end up getting us all killed. He already has half the world pissed off at us!
But getting back to your comment. You call it "defending the nation", I call it endangering a nation and bullying another!
damn that George Bush :evil:

[iGuest 3]

:roll: i reside in switzerland and the ppl here are so busy they forget who the president is maybe if we tend to react less on other ppls mistake and act right we could make a difference rather than giving ourselves a heartburn on some of the world leaders costly mistake.whose next ? na da no country deserves such atrocious things like that and definitely no country has the sole right to police the world 8) knocks on the american ppl please grab your leader and give him milk and cookies maybe be if ppl treat him well he would not be that mean.

[iGuest 3]

Whatever it is Bush won the election. He seems to be more righteous morally than Kerry is, as Church-goers voted him overwhelmingly.

[iGuest 3]

Err... That's because of scare tactics...If it's religeous to kill many thousands of people, yet evil to kill one, then religion has destroyed itself.

[iGuest 3]

Err... That's because of scare tactics...
If it's religeous to kill many thousands of people, yet evil to kill one, then religion has destroyed itself.

That said it all!!

It's sad to know that so many people live in fear and that fear runs their lives and the USA. If freedom really governed the country and the people were free, then we would have a more peaceful planet. No reason to kill others, to live a nice life. Just because other people kill people, dosn't mean that I need to be inspired to do the same. Incredible that Bush proclaimes that he fights for freedom and democracy, when in fact he is creating the opposite. Even submachine guns are now legal to purchase in the USA. Bush stopped the ban a few months ago. Now it's FUN to be scared to death! :twisted:

Regards, Davidw

[iGuest 3]

Incredible that Bush proclaimes that he fights for freedom and democracy, when in fact he is creating the opposite.

That reminds me of my favourite quote:

 

"Fighting for peace is like f*cking for virginity..."

[iGuest 3]

Religion causes war when it's Godless

Religion causesd war when it's founded on Ignorance

Religion causes war mostly, when it's propelled by selfish interests (wether collective or personal)

 

Religion can bring PEACE if only it's based on the light of THE ETERNAL TRUTH!

I think you forgot-

Religion was created by man to control man, and nothing else!!!

 

 

~ the quote BBcode exists... ~ Infraid

[iGuest 3]

And what pisses me off even more Tony blair(our prime minister) is kissing his *bottom*...

Bush say`s god bless america. he says he is an reborn christian! Answer me this? How can you be a religous man when you have the blood of tens of thousands of people on your hands..

Religion cause`s war`s...

Iraq will never be free! it will become a training ground for american troops and it will be  bled dry of all its oil

 

The worlds gone mad for power and greed..

Nuke the planet

1) blair follows him in the same way any british PM would do - the link between america and britain is very important economically, Ultimately bush has enough power that he can turn around say 'im doing this' and blair is left stuck - thats what he did.

 

'Religion' only causes war in its broadest sense - in the sense that includes atheism - just look at russian communism and the purges of lenin and stalin. If a religion preaches against war...then if it causes war, its only when its being followed incorrectly - thus isnt the fault of the teachings of the religion itself.

 

Iraq will not be free for a very long time, compare it to Ireland - they opened a can of worms they really shouldnt have until they had some really solid basis to, i believe iraq is freer than it was - it is a vocal minority who are causing a lot of pain. In that respect im glad saddam has gone - at least bush isnt terrorising his own country.

[iGuest 3]

I think you forgot-

Religion was created by man to control man, and nothing else!!!

 

 

~ the quote BBcode exists... ~ Infraid

 

thats based on the assumption that its untrue.

 

= logical fallacy.

 

your agument says 'because religion is not true (created by man alone), it is not true' .....therefore it doesnt add to the discussion.

 

If a religion is true.... then it was not created by man - that unless you can prove that isnt the case, then you shouldnt jump to that assumption

[iGuest 3]

True that Saddam was a madman and needed to be overthrown, but in fact he had nothing to do with 9/11

i dont think there is much doubt that he was funding a large amount of terrorist organisations

Also, i dont like him being referred to as a madman - psycho is more fitting. He knew what he was doing - and was not clinically insane....'madness' seems to bring with it a bit of acceptability - because it suggests he was out of control....he was not out of control, and was just driven by evil motives.

[iGuest 3]

...he was not out of control, and was just driven by evil motives.

As far as I see it, it is evil to kill people. No matter if it's Bush, Blair, Saddam... or the guy down the street; killing is evil. I don't think anybody can judge when or when not, a person is "out of control". Killing people is way out of control, no matter how it is done and no matter who is doing the dirty job. But... I do know that some people need to defend themselves. But that is a different story. Sometimes people get killed when they defend themselves. But taking control over another country is not a defensive act and does not seem to create a more secure world. On the contrary!

Regards, Davidw