Stick With One Os, Dual-boot, Or Triple-boot?

[mahesh2k 0]

I've yet to try karmic koala, when will it be released or is it already released? I don't mean the beta or anything but the final release.

It is going to release after two days. You can try beta right-away though if you want. But as it is going to release in two days. I suggest you to check the download or shipit section after two days.

[akira550 0]

I had a 3 os in my machine why? well it's for some purpose..the first thing is our university require us to have 3 os in our machine Windows,Linux,OSX because as youve been said in your postevery one of them had a Pros and Cons. I use linux for my security like when my USB had a virus and the files were hidden. I can quickly switch to Linux and see the hidden files and delete the virus myself.. why myself? well because first of all I don't really trust all anti virus of windows the first thing is that they detecting even a non virus file... like PSKill isn't it?well I use Snow Leopard only for educational purpose like editing in Vegas and more..I only use Windows for experimenting and for programming in VB and also for playing Warcraft and Prince of Persia(I love Those Games) and also for playing online Games..The Second Thing is using 3 OS in one machine is not a ridiculous thing besides it is an advantage because you will get familiar in all of the latest and top OS today in the Market because being an IT needs to be updated in what happenings in terms of technology you must be competent that was our professor thought.If I am wrong just tell me

[truefusion 3]

In an attempt to add to the current list (though i would prefer to get others to check theirs' out as well), i appear to get better CPU temperatures under Linux. I average about 32C on idle and 49C on load under Linux (according to lm-sensors), while in Windows i seem to average 41C on idle and 59C on load (according to CoreTemps). I would be interested in seeing if anyone has a similar situation. Either lm-sensors or CoreTemps is telling inaccurate temperatures, or Windows XP (SP3) likes to heat up my processor.

I've yet to try karmic koala, when will it be released or is it already released? I don't mean the beta or anything but the final release.

I'm currently running 9.10 RC and it has been stable—though i've been using it since beta, and was stable then too. They've increased the eye-candy with this one a bit, and boot times seem to have increased a bit. I can reach the desktop in about 25 seconds—this is after i have already installed a lot of services, like Apache and others. The only problem i have is with the ATI drivers—the proprietary drivers worked in 9.04, but currently not in 9.10. The final will be release on the 29th.

[mm22 0]

Linux (Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala)

 

Pros: Very user-friendly and pretty to boot, security through market-obscurity, very efficient with hardware (?), constant updates, customization capability, free

 

Cons: Command-line work scares off most casual users, support is mostly user-based, limited gaming library, driver support is a hit-or-miss at times

About the use of command line, I would like to put it another way. Suppose you need to setup something on your computer which you have no idea how to do it and you don't want to spend the time investigating, so you google it. Would you prefer copying and pasting a few lines in your Linux terminal or go through a whole webpage of screenshots to do it graphically or perhaps download and run some obscure patch (the latter two being ways to do it in Windows). Yes the command line can scare off users, in fact it is one of the top reasons I have heard for avoiding Linux. And by pasting the wrong thing you can surely mess up your system but there is so much reliable information on the web that I think malicious command line code will be automatically ranked back by google. As someone said it is true you don't have to use terminal in Linux with modern distributions but it is so much more convenient to use it in many occasions that it makes little sense to avoid it completely. So if you really don't want to ever type any command you probably shouldn't even switch to Linux.

[rayzoredge 2]

The Second Thing is using 3 OS in one machine is not a ridiculous thing besides it is an advantage because you will get familiar in all of the latest and top OS today in the Market because being an IT needs to be updated in what happenings in terms of technology you must be competent that was our professor thought.If I am wrong just tell me

I like this argument because you are right: it does help to branch your knowledge base out so that you can be familiar with and assist others with different operating systems. I'm glad that I jumped into Linux when I did, and even though I still consider myself quite the newbie with it, I don't balk that much at seeing unfamiliar commands and Linux CLI strings online (especially when it comes to hacking my iPod nowadays). It's actually a nice feeling to be able to look at once-unfamiliar stuff and actually be able to read it. However, in the career market, I don't know how useful knowing OSX would be unless you were applying to be a PC tech or specialist of some sort, since with the ~10% market share of Mac users come ~10% of your customers having an issue with their Mac. (Then again, the way that some of these elitists come forth with bragging about how awesome their Apple products are, they shouldn't be coming to you with any problems.)

Linux is definitely a helpful knowledge base to at the very least touch on, but I think that a combination of Linux and Windows Server would be best for an IT position. That's just a guess, though.

About the use of command line, I would like to put it another way. Suppose you need to setup something on your computer which you have no idea how to do it and you don't want to spend the time investigating, so you google it. Would you prefer copying and pasting a few lines in your Linux terminal or go through a whole webpage of screenshots to do it graphically or perhaps download and run some obscure patch (the latter two being ways to do it in Windows). Yes the command line can scare off users, in fact it is one of the top reasons I have heard for avoiding Linux. And by pasting the wrong thing you can surely mess up your system but there is so much reliable information on the web that I think malicious command line code will be automatically ranked back by google. As someone said it is true you don't have to use terminal in Linux with modern distributions but it is so much more convenient to use it in many occasions that it makes little sense to avoid it completely. So if you really don't want to ever type any command you probably shouldn't even switch to Linux.

It depends on how comfortable you are with approaching each avenue. A lot of people are so used to using a GUI and take the CLI for granted, since they never really see it. Also, a lot of people nowadays are of the "gimme" attitude and won't actually do the research to begin with. Those that do venture into this void will either find a solution that they can cope with, figure out a solution that fixes their problem, or abandon it because no one has a solution to share or even before a solution becomes apparent because typing in a bunch of commands that you have no idea what they do and hitting enter repeatedly is not the best way to go, not to mention that people LIKE knowing what they're doing.

Thankfully enough and thanks to its current users, Linux has become more of a GUI and user-friendly environment with its CLI working for it in the background, much like Windows in that aspect, which will attract more users in the long run once people start spreading the word. The common correlation with the word "Linux" automatically brings us to geeks and people who are computer savvy, but I'm sure that will change over time. Once developers start seeing an audience for Linux, I'm sure software support will follow suit, which will bring even more users in, etc.

[mm22 0]

Thankfully enough and thanks to its current users, Linux has become more of a GUI and user-friendly environment with its CLI working for it in the background, much like Windows in that aspect, which will attract more users in the long run once people start spreading the word. The common correlation with the word "Linux" automatically brings us to geeks and people who are computer savvy, but I'm sure that will change over time. Once developers start seeing an audience for Linux, I'm sure software support will follow suit, which will bring even more users in, etc.

Yes you are right, Linux is still associated with geeks and obscure commands, much like DOS was before the invention of Win 95 and almost CLI-free operations. As for myself I used DOS a lot before knowing a GUI so I guess I am already keener to typing things than other people are. At the time I never used Win 95, instead jumped straight from DOS/Win 3.x to Win 98 and later 2000, I regret I never looked into Linux until more recently. Generally speaking using a CLI makes me feel like I can somehow control what is going on, rather than just clicking colourful buttons, probably just a feeling. But even computer-savvy friends of mine are generally reluctant to use a CLI, so I guess it's just a matter of taste in the end. But I think a Linux desktop like Ubuntu nowadays is a very good platform to use GUI and CLI seamlessly in a way that is not so apparent to my knowledge in any Windows system starting from Win 95.

I am curious to know a bit more about the use of command line in Mac, I've tried a bit and saw that most Linux/Unix commands work on it but I wonder if you can do something useful with it, like installing stuff or launching programs or instead Mac OsX "blocks" some of these features.

Yes in the end it's all about audience, users being there developers and big firms will come and Linux based OSs will be just another OS and not something for geeks only.